Fiat ducato Adria Twin fixed bed 2007 manual diesel payload

[PeterCarole29]

Im trying to put an advert for his van sale for a friend . The van is as in the tittle and on the V5 is plated at 3300kg
I need an idea of payload for the advert on here in clasified adds

 

[Emmit]

Just a suggestion.
Empty the van, fill with fuel, (don't go mad, 1st click is good enough) Put in 20lts of water. Judge what you have as gas. The 'official' MIRO states a full 6kgs gas bottle and last but not least is yourself with a plus or minus depending on your weight. The MIRO states 75kgs.
Then take it to a weighbridge and that should give a real World figure to take from the 3300kgs. you have as a MTPLM.
Remember, it's more than likely, dependant on your tyres, that your van could have a 'paper exercise' to 3500kgs.
That isn't to suggest that you should do it but you should find out and advise prospective buyers of their options.
Of course, if your payload is on the low side, it may be prudent to DIY to get to a wider audience.

 

[PeterCarole29]

Thanks good advice and as a last resort i will do that. The van is empty ready to go up for sale at a very good price although it does need some bits done to it to make it perfect
I am hopeing i can get information from someone with the same van to get the add up and running with the condition of getting it weighed before anyone was interested

 

[PeterCarole29]

I had a brainwave which doesn’t often happyand googled it
And to my surprise I found this

 

[dunnah01]

You really need to add about 300kg for driver, fuel, water gas etc to find the MIRO before quoting available payload

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[PeterCarole29]

You really need to add about 300kg for driver, fuel, water gas etc to find the MIRO before quoting available payload

Thankyou your reply but I think you are wrong on that figure an allowance should have already be made by the manufacturer
But i am sure that will be confirmed by someome

 

[Barti Ddu]

Thankyou your reply but I think you are wrong on that figure an allowance should have already be made by the manufacturer
But i am sure that will be confirmed by someome

Well, seeing as you appear to be putting your faith in Google AI, this is what it comes back with asking about the difference between motorhome unladen weights and MIRO, and how it relates to payload.

It would seem that Google AI agrees with dunnah01

 

[PeterCarole29]

Well, seeing as you appear to be putting your faith in Google AI, this is what it comes back with asking about the difference between motorhome unladen weights and MIRO, and how it relates to payload.

It would seem that Google AI agrees with dunnah01

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Hi The information you show is absolutely correct and is very helpful thankyou but
I think the payload quoted by me is pretty accurate as they quote it based on an Adria Twin van Fiat ducato already converted
And quote payload specifically
I am also assuming it’s not far of as before the conversion the bare van will only weigh about 2000kg
so they have allowed for. The conversion items
That would be standard
It’s often been discussed on the forum what the manufacturer’s allow and don’t allow
I agree the only way to know properly is to go to a weigh bridge

 

[PeterCarole29]

I had a brainwave which doesn’t often happyand googled it
And to my surprise I found this View attachment 1040853

They quote 2720kg unladen
The van deliver from fiat would only weigh about 2000kg

 

[PeterCarole29]

I think I will need to adjust the weight as have been pointed out would be surprised if the conversion was only 700kg

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[Barti Ddu]

To be honest, it's all a bit academic to your scenario. Over 18 years the van is bound to have had additions, modifications and inevitable "weight creep" (including moisture in insulation, crud around the wheel arches and general detritus). Only way to quote a meaningful usable payload is to weigh it empty on a calibrated weighbridge and allow for driver, fuel, water, etc.

 

[Whippet93]

even if you get a reply from someone with the same van and age you would need to ensure all items such as extra batteries, wind out awning, TV aerial, gas bottles, TV, oven, hob, wheels, etc. etc. match up to get a reliable comparison. As said previously the best way is to weigh.

 

[PeterCarole29]

I agree

To be honest, it's all a bit academic to your scenario. Over 18 years the van is bound to have had additions, modifications and inevitable "weight creep" (including moisture in insulation, crud around the wheel arches and general detritus). Only way to quote a meaningful usable payload is to weigh it empty on a calibrated weighbridge and allow for driver, fuel, water, etc.

I agree

 

[PeterCarole29]

even if you get a reply from someone with the same van and age you would need to ensure all items such as extra batteries, wind out awning, TV aerial, gas bottles, TV, oven, hob, wheels, etc. etc. match up to get a reliable comparison. As said previously the best way is to weigh.

I agree unusually my friends van is very original but will get it weighed anyway

 

[berni109]

I had a 2007 twin as you describe with roof awning.
With full tanks, 2x 6 ltr calor, wife and self, lightweight chairs and table, a fortnights cloths, some food and basic cooking and eating utensils it was near max weight.

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[Jon Stewart]

I had a 2007 twin as you describe with roof awning.
With full tanks, 2x 6 ltr calor, wife and self, lightweight chairs and table, a fortnights cloths, some food and basic cooking and eating utensils it was near max weight.

I'm surprised the op hasn't thought to search for the numerous threads on here illustrating why his figures are likely a load of wishful thinking.

Getting it weighed, while knowing the exact contents is the only way to establish payload.

+/-5%

 

[Jon Stewart]

I agree unusually my friends van is very original but will get it weighed anyway

You absolutely need to get it weighed. Too many unknown unknowns!
J

 

[Barti Ddu]

I'm surprised the op hasn't thought to search for the numerous threads on here illustrating why his figures are likely a load of wishful thinking.

Getting it weighed, while knowing the exact contents is the only way to establish payload.

+/-5%

That's a very good point. Any payload figure published by the manufacturer may have been "optimistic" seeing as they work on a tolerance of +/- 5% on the MIRO.

 

[PeterCarole29]

I had a 2007 twin as you describe with roof awning.
With full tanks, 2x 6 ltr calor, wife and self, lightweight chairs and table, a fortnights cloths, some food and basic cooking and eating utensils it was near max weight.

Thanks for your reply

 

[Fat Albert]

I think I will need to adjust the weight as have been pointed out would be surprised if the conversion was only 700kgView attachment 1041101

Don't forget that the convertors don't get a van. It's a cab and chassis or 2 cabs bolted together and ALKO chassis added by the convertor later.

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[PeterCarole29]

Don't forget that the convertors don't get a van. It's a cab and chassis or 2 cabs bolted together and ALKO chassis added by the convertor later.

Thanks for your reply for the adria twin it is a panel van conversion