Yet another C1 question

[Wjklewis]

we just changed our van to a Pilote V633M. The sales guy told us that it is only a paper work exercise to up plate it, as it is already able to take the extra load without modification. That kinda suits me as we are always on the limit weight wise. As I have a C1 Licence thats not a problem to me either.

However my son occasionally borrows the van, but doesn’t have a C1. He is a bus driver and has a D licence.

My question is this: if we decide to up plate the van, and as long as the van is not weighing in at over 3,500 kg we he is using it. Can he still legally drive the van on his current licence? Or does the up plating regardless of the weight, require a C1 licence to drive?

I appreciate any advice on this or being pointed in the right direction.

Many thanks John.

 

[Lenny HB]

No, he needs a C1 to drive the Motorhome if its over 3500kg.

 

[pappajohn]

It requires a C1 as it's CAPABLE of carrying the gross weight even if it's below 3500kg while he's driving it.

 

[pappajohn]

As for uprating... . It may be a paper exercise but ideally needs a professional to do the paperwork

 

[Wjklewis]

That seems absurd, even though he drives a three axle double decker bus.

But thanks for the quick replies

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[Whippet93]

And bear in mind that just because the salesman said....may not be correct.

 

[Wjklewis]

As for uprating... . It may be a paper exercise but ideally needs a professional to do the paperwork

Oh yes, I appreciate that.

 

[pappajohn]

That seems absurd, even though he drives a three axle double decker bus.

But thanks for the quick replies

But he can't legally drive a 3 axle truck of a similar size and weight either.
I agree though, the law is at times stupid

 

[Grummyb]

You can drive a 7.5 tonneau lorry if not for hire or reward with a cat d licence so I'm going to say he can drive a motorhome upto 7.5 tonne aswel

 

[oldiesontour]

You can drive a 7.5 tonneau lorry if not for hire or reward with a cat d licence so I'm going to say he can drive a motorhome upto 7.5 tonne aswel

Think you may well be right here ...as long as he renews the pvc bit...it's on my current licence but as I've never done the medical and renewal I guess the pvc bit although printed on the licence no longer applies ....more British and stupid !

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[The Artilleryman]

You can drive a 7.5 tonneau lorry if not for hire or reward with a cat d licence so I'm going to say he can drive a motorhome upto 7.5 tonne aswel

cat D licence (the old PSV) is bus and coach, nothing to do with HGV.

 

[Puddleduck]

That seems absurd, even though he drives a three axle double decker bus.

But thanks for the quick replies

Same as our daughter. She drives a huge double decker bus full of school children. It has been said that women can't reverse or park but you should see her park that bus..... Martin has been known to get out of the car driver's seat and tell her to park the car. During her car test she thought the examiner meant her to reverse park in a single space which she did. Later on he said he had meant the bigger space further on but it wasn't an issue as she had completed the manoeuvre and he doubted if he could have parked in the space as quickly or as neatly.

After she passed her PSV test she asked about driving a motorhome and was told she would need a C1 but might as well go for the full C if that is what she intended to do. So far she has resisted and we have sold the motorhome. Martin gave up his C1 when he turned 70 so if we ever replace the van it will be sub-3500kg anyway.

 

[Gellyneck]

But he can't legally drive a 3 axle truck of a similar size and weight either.
I agree though, the law is at times stupid

 

[Nanniemate]

Same as our daughter. She drives a huge double decker bus full of school children. It has been said that women can't reverse or park but you should see her park that bus..... Martin has been known to get out of the car driver's seat and tell her to park the car. During her car test she thought the examiner meant her to reverse park in a single space which she did. Later on he said he had meant the bigger space further on but it wasn't an issue as she had completed the manoeuvre and he doubted if he could have parked in the space as quickly or as neatly.

After she passed her PSV
she asked about driving a motorhome and was told she would need a C1 but might as well go for the full C if that is what she intended to do. So far she has resisted and we have sold the motorhome. Martin gave up his C1 when he turned 70 so if we ever replace the van it will be sub-3500kg anyway.

If she is spending on the licence she may as well go for the C+E

we just changed our van to a Pilote V633M. The sales guy told us that it is only a paper work exercise to up plate it, as it is already able to take the extra load without modification. That kinda suits me as we are always on the limit weight wise. As I have a C1 Licence thats not a problem to me either.

However my son occasionally borrows the van, but doesn’t have a C1. He is a bus driver and has a D licence.

My question is this: if we decide to up plate the van, and as long as the van is not weighing in at over 3,500 kg we he is using it. Can he still legally drive the van on his current licence? Or does the up plating regardless of the weight, require a C1 licence to drive?

I appreciate any advice on this or being pointed in the right direction.

Many thanks John.

Where does your son live