Windbrakers for Hard Standing

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So I went to Castleton Caravan & Motorhome site a couple of weeks ago for a night so I could cycle some of the peaks with a mate of mine..... That story aside.


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I wanted to put up my windbreaks on the cab end of the thing as the wind was coming from where I am taking the picture from.... Issue was the hardstanding was HARD..... I pulled away some of the gravel to reveal the mud hoping to knock through it with the spiky end of my blackpool style windbreaks and the big rubber mallet but it was hard as nails and no way I could whack half a dozen posts into it without killing myself.

In the end I just put them in the soft soil area behind the van hoping the wind would change and just to give a bit of a perimeter.. Was pretty useless though.

Does anyone have any that are self supporting so you don't have to worry about the surface type that they could post a picture of or a link to?

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In other news we made it to the top of Mam Tor to earn the pie and pint in the Castle after (y)
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Im the ugly one on the left
 
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Alternatively, drill holes using a suitable sized masonry drill bit with a cordless drill..

example 25mm


I would suggest a drill bit dia. slightly smaller than the pole dia. .. then when you knock it in it will be a tight fit
 
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There are lots about, I bought a good quality free standing one in Spain a couple of years ago very similar to @Kingham's above but with guide ropes as apposed to the metal poles on Ken's. I would say the one's with metal poles are a better option as with mine (lots of UK produced similar) I have to have 6 guide ropes 3 of which are on the inside of the awning and a blooming nuisance!

Not mine, but you see what I mean!
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In other news we made it to the top of Mam Tor to earn the pie and pint in the Castle after (y)

Im the ugly one on the left[/QUOTE]

Did you go up or down the sunken road.
 
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Good thread - we bought a Jormax 2 years ago and have never used it as we always seem to be on a hard standing whenever we have stopped long enough to make putting up the windbreak worthwhile.

I hadn’t realised that the Jormax could be used on a hard standing so it might get some use now!

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milliethehymer said:
Good thread - we bought a Jormax 2 years ago and have never used it as we always seem to be on a hard standing whenever we have stopped long enough to make putting up the windbreak worthwhile.

I hadn’t realised that the Jormax could be used on a hard standing so it might get some use now!
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The only thing is to be aware what hammer you use ... it is possible to burr the top of the poles if you don't protect them when hammering them in. This can make the wee plastic fittings hard to slip over
 
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As others have said Jormax. Isabella do one with metal spikes and plates which works really well. They look pretty good when in use. The other one you could look at is Coveva. Aluminium frame poles top and bottom with aluminium support poles making it guy rope free. (As per Jormax) None are particularly cheap but they all can be used guy rope free and all have metal mounting plates.
 
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Another vote for Jormax.
Not used it much yet and never on a real hard standing but it is very well made. You can use a lump hammer to whack the poles in without burring the top by inserting the steel bolts they supply.

Richard.
 
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Did you go up or down the sunken road.[/QUOTE]

When you say the sunken road I assume you mean Winnats Pass. And we went up first then down on return. And yes that’s why we earnt the pint and pie. That is one insanely strap road.

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The picture does this road no justice as to how beautiful it is. And steep.

Thanks for the info guys
 
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Did you go up or down the sunken road.[/QUOTE]

When you say the sunken road I assume you mean Winnats Pass. And we went up first then down on return. And yes that’s why we earnt the pint and pie. That is one insanely strap road.

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The picture does this road no justice as to how beautiful it is. And steep.

Thanks for the info guys[/QUOTE]

No not that road, I mean the old road that goes past Peak Caverns.
If you go up this old road it brings you out not far from Mam Tor without going up the pass.
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For hard ground, though not tried on hard standing, I use a bit and brace rather than a drill. My father and grandfather were both carpenters so I already had the tools. I bore a hole slightly smaller than the diameter of the poles, and then knock them in.
Impressive hilly ride! That collapsed road has been like it for about 40years I think. I remember camping in a two man tent at the top of the pass, the sheep kept trying to chew through the guy lines.
David
 
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Lazyboy said:
As others have said Jormax. Isabella do one with metal spikes and plates which works really well. They look pretty good when in use. The other one you could look at is Coveva. Aluminium frame poles top and bottom with aluminium support poles making it guy rope free. (As per Jormax) None are particularly cheap but they all can be used guy rope free and all have metal mounting plates.
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I have the Coveva, it is excellent. Set up easily on hard standing at Castleton. Rock pegs and small lump hammer, not rubber mallet.
 
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davidathomas42 said:
So I went to Castleton Caravan & Motorhome site a couple of weeks ago for a night so I could cycle some of the peaks with a mate of mine..... That story aside.


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I wanted to put up my windbreaks on the cab end of the thing as the wind was coming from where I am taking the picture from.... Issue was the hardstanding was HARD..... I pulled away some of the gravel to reveal the mud hoping to knock through it with the spiky end of my blackpool style windbreaks and the big rubber mallet but it was hard as nails and no way I could whack half a dozen posts into it without killing myself.

In the end I just put them in the soft soil area behind the van hoping the wind would change and just to give a bit of a perimeter.. Was pretty useless though.

Does anyone have any that are self supporting so you don't have to worry about the surface type that they could post a picture of or a link to?

--------------

In other news we made it to the top of Mam Tor to earn the pie and pint in the Castle after (y)
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Im the ugly one on the left
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I have the Coveva. This was at Wharfedale but also used on hard standing at Castleton.

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sdc77 said:
The only thing is to be aware what hammer you use ... it is possible to burr the top of the poles if you don't protect them when hammering them in. This can make the wee plastic fittings hard to slip over
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This is true although they usually supply a little coach bolt to drop into the end of the pole and give you something to hit rather than the end of the pole.

I use a lump hammer. It takes too long with anything else.
 
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Isabella plus a copper hammer. Kept them after we got the Moho they are so good.
 
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Clearly, I'm a bit of a black sheep when it comes to Jormax :unsure:

Having seen them up close and personal as it were, I thought the quality of their product was not for us and instead after careful consideration, went for a bespoke windbreak from Windbreak Leisure.

Not the cheapest, but the quality is clearly apparent in the manufacture, design, and materials used and I would suggest its longevity is more than a match for any windbreak on the market.

Windbreak Leisure offered us the capacity to visit them in person, view a displayed product in situ, discuss options and considered our individual requirements. We then arrived at a bespoke windbreak design made to our required dimensions, number of gates (these are far superior to Jormax and others in my opinion) and even our own preferred colours.

Whilst I appreciate there is a great deal of 'Love' for Jormax in the windbreak market there are other options out there that sometimes fly under the motorhome radar....quite possibly because they choose to ;)
 
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