Will wild camping be allowed after the 14th of April?

[Cheshirecat57]

I believe there is nothing written anywhere that you cannot overnight away from home post 29th March

Not looking for a discussion as to whether should or shouldn't , but im convinced driving to anothers land ( or your owned other location) and overnighting in your self contained facility, is allowed

 

[Cheshirecat57]

Yes, you may travel for reasons that were previously not permitted. This does not include overnight stays.


Covered by the no overnight stays requirement.



As above. You don’t seriously expect ‘wild camping’ to be mentioned explicitly; do you?

Ian

Where have you learnt thet no overnights are allowed please?

 

[LesW]

Where have you learnt thet no overnights are allowed please?

Found after a Google search....

The rules will not be relaxed to allow overnight stays until the second step of the roadmap, which will come at least five weeks after 8 March – no earlier than 12 April.

From then: “Overnight stays away from home in this country will be permitted and self-contained accommodation – those that do not require shared use of bathing, entry/exit, catering or sleeping facilities – can also reopen, though must only be used by members of the same household.”

Also, England does not recognise 'Wild Camping' but you can get away with it if you choose the right place.

 

[acropolis22]

Found after a Google search....

The rules will not be relaxed to allow overnight stays until the second step of the roadmap, which will come at least five weeks after 8 March – no earlier than 12 April.

From then: “Overnight stays away from home in this country will be permitted and self-contained accommodation – those that do not require shared use of bathing, entry/exit, catering or sleeping facilities – can also reopen, though must only be used by members of the same household.”

Also, England does not recognise 'Wild Camping' but you can get away with it if you choose the right place.

But what is the source for that? Not that I don't trust Google...........

 

[Tombola]

Current overnight guidance until 12 April​

Under the current lockdown rules, overnight stays are not allowed “unless you have a reasonable excuse”.


Guidance on the Government’s website reads: “You cannot leave your home or the place where you are living for holidays or overnight stays unless you have a reasonable excuse for doing so.

“This means that holidays in the UK and abroad are not allowed. This includes staying in a second home, caravan or boat, if that is not your primary residence.

“This also includes staying with anyone who you don’t live with unless they’re in your support bubble.”


I dragged that from The Guardian

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[MichaelT]

I believe there is nothing written anywhere that you cannot overnight away from home post 29th March

Not looking for a discussion as to whether should or shouldn't , but im convinced driving to anothers land ( or your owned other location) and overnighting in your self contained facility, is allowed

obviously you are not reading anything the government has published, no overnight stays till 12th April and then only in self contained accommodation.

 

[LesW]

But what is the source for that?

Do yourself a favour and search the internet, it's no secret, newspapers have it, the governments own website has it.

 

[rod_vw]

However - if you drive an HGV with a sleeper cab and you can go where you like and stop overnight in any convenient layby or parking area and have never had any restrictions. Also you could go abroad with it if you passed a Covid test within 72hrs of departing. Downside, it is more expensive!

 

[bigtwin]

Where does it say that, out of interest?

I note that you didn’t answer my question but, instead, came back with your own question.

I might equally say to you “where does it say that you can stay away from home?”.

It is not realistic to expect every scenario to be explicitly defined and the intention of the requirements linked earlier in this thread is quite clear.

If you think that the absence of a specific line in the requirements provides you with a justification for staying away from home then you are part of the problem while the rest of us seek to be part of the solution.

The guidance is quite clear:

Thus, unless something is mentioned explicitly as being permissible, it is reasonable to assume that the previous restrictions remain (as stated in the screenshot above) in the intervening period.

These excerpts provide a good overall view of the requirements, however if you are determined to reject the intent and need a clear and unambiguous statement, then feel free to find what you are determined not to look for here:

Covid-19 Response - Spring 2021

Ian

 

[bigtwin]

Where have you learnt thet no overnights are allowed please?

I refer you to post #39 above.

Ian

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[acropolis22]

Do yourself a favour and search the internet, it's no secret, newspapers have it, the governments own website has it.

The reason I asked for a source is that I wouldn't trust the papers not to have it completely wrong, and as far as I can see the government web site does not specify that as a CURRENT rule. It may have said it previously, but the site that I and others linked to higher up, which is the roadmap out of lockdown page, doesn't mention no overnight stays. I'm just interested to know where on the gov site this is specified as a rule after 29th March.

 

[ambulancekidd]

That sounds like a plan... I have friends up and down the country so planning on staying on their drives or close to when I’m allowed.

I’d like to get to Scotland again as we used to go there in the summer before we got the van.... we once turned up to the bed and breakfast too late and slept ( not really ) on the side of the road on the Isle of Skye.

Whatever you do, stay away from the usual tourist hotspots, especially if your wild camping.
Once lockdown was relaxed last summer the normally quiet tourist areas near my home were mobbed.

I often plug south west Scotland, but this time I must add a caveat. the remote wild spots such as Glen Trool were busy, but if you were to seek out the quieter spots, its still quite possible to find peace & quiet.

 

[acropolis22]

I note that you didn’t answer my question but, instead, came back with your own question.

I might equally say to you “where does it say that you can stay away from home?”.

It is not realistic to expect every scenario to be explicitly defined and the intention of the requirements linked earlier in this thread is quite clear.

If you think that the absence of a specific line in the requirements provides you with a justification for staying away from home then you are part of the problem while the rest of us seek to be part of the solution.

The guidance is quite clear:

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Thus, unless something is mentioned explicitly as being permissible, it is reasonable to assume that the previous restrictions remain (as stated in the screenshot above) in the intervening period.

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These excerpts provide a good overall view of the requirements, however if you are determined to reject the intent and need a clear and unambiguous statement, then feel free to find what you are determined not to look for here:

Covid-19 Response Spring 2021

Ian

Well, we're reading the same thing and interpreting it differently. I don't see that "The ‘stay at home’ rule will end on 29 March but many restrictions will remain in place." says anything about overnight stays one way or the other. That's all I'm saying, and nothing anyone has posted here leads me to change my mind. Maybe I will if someone posts a relevant quote from a gov publication.

 

[bigtwin]

Well, we're reading the same thing and interpreting it differently. I don't see that "The ‘stay at home’ rule will end on 29 March but many restrictions will remain in place." says anything about overnight stays one way or the other. That's all I'm saying, and nothing anyone has posted here leads me to change my mind. Maybe I will if someone posts a relevant quote from a gov publication.

You really are demonstrating a determination not to accept information being provided for you.

I have provided a link to a government publication but you are determined not to take personal responsibility for establishing the facts, even when folks try to assist you.

PLEASE READ THE CONTENTS OF THE LINK.

Ian

 

[Tombola]

Well, we're reading the same thing and interpreting it differently. I don't see that "The ‘stay at home’ rule will end on 29 March but many restrictions will remain in place." says anything about overnight stays one way or the other. That's all I'm saying, and nothing anyone has posted here leads me to change my mind. Maybe I will if someone posts a relevant quote from a gov publication.

No you are quite right, the .gov website does not state this, but it also doesnt say you can.
What it does say is, overseas travel is banned but doesnt say UK travel. Id say it should be interpreted as drive out and meet a friend etc but no staying out until the 12th.

Thats my plan anyway, then wheeeey heyyyyyy

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[MichaelT]

Well, we're reading the same thing and interpreting it differently. I don't see that "The ‘stay at home’ rule will end on 29 March but many restrictions will remain in place." says anything about overnight stays one way or the other. That's all I'm saying, and nothing anyone has posted here leads me to change my mind. Maybe I will if someone posts a relevant quote from a gov publication.

what part of the highlighted text can you not read

 

[acropolis22]

You really are demonstrating a determination not to accept information being provided for you.

I have provided a link to a government publication but you are determined not to take personal responsibility for establishing the facts, even when folks try to assist you.

PLEASE READ THE CONTENTS OF THE LINK.

Ian

I have read it. It says nothing about overnight stays. In fact I posted the same link in post #11, which clearly you failed to notice.

 

[bigtwin]

I have read it. It says nothing about overnight stays. In fact I posted the same link in post #11, which clearly you failed to notice.

I did see, and read, your link. Clearly you failed to notice that you posted the ”Summary” whereas I posted the full report.

This is from the full report:

Ian

 

[Cheshirecat57]

I did see, and read, your link. Clearly you failed to notice that you posted the ”Summary” whereas I posted the full report.

This is from the full report:

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Ian

So the wording is you SHOULD’NT stay away from home, not that you MUSTN’T

AFAIC that is a request/recommendation and not the law

 

[fat haggis]

He’s suffering from it don’t apply to me syndrome. Take your blinkers off please

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[bigtwin]

So the wording is you SHOULD’NT stay away from home, not that you MUSTN’T

AFAIC that is a request/recommendation and not the law

He’s suffering from it don’t apply to me syndrome. Take your blinkers off please

It seems that there’ll always be those that will seek to excuse themselves from doing what they ought to do.

Ian

 

[Cheshirecat57]

It seems that there’ll always be those that will seek to excuse themselves from doing what they ought to do.

Ian

No
if you read the trail, the discussion is whether it will be legal, not whether you ought to be doing it
I refer you to post #31
No matter, at least Im not going to an illegal gathering in Parliament square

 

[bigtwin]

No
if you read the trail, the discussion is whether it will be legal, not whether you ought to be doing it
I refer you to post #31
No matter, at least Im not going to an illegal gathering in Parliament square

No, I refer you to both the OP and to post #31, the discussion is about whether it is allowed, or not.

Hi,
First post in a while, and like most of you, usually away in Europe somewhere. Travelling over there doesn’t seem to be as difficult as here somehow and I begrudge paying stupid prices just for a pitch
I just wanted peoples opinions on whether we are allowed to wildcamp in the U.K... or does it have to be a campsite?
I’m so ready to escape and want to do a little bit of both X

Post #31:

I believe there is nothing written anywhere that you cannot overnight away from home post 29th March

Not looking for a discussion as to whether should or shouldn't , but im convinced driving to anothers land ( or your owned other location) and overnighting in your self contained facility, is allowed

I think enough information has been posted on this thread to conclude what one ought to do.

Ian

 

[Pilote270]

just read (sic) that the polis will be permitting ONLY vans with a Scottish (EU) registration plate full access to Scotland's new aire sites. xx

 

[Cheshirecat57]

You’re not receiving,I’m afraid, just recycling
#31 is my post, that you are referring me back to !!

OP asked if it was ALLOWED which it clearly IS because its only urged and recommended not to do so, the “stay at home” law expires 29th
Neither the OP or myself were asking if anyone OUGHT to do it, although I accept you are committed to not venturing away

The thread is now going round in circles, time for me to move on

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[bigtwin]

#31 is my post, that you are referring me back to !!

That, I was aware of!

Ian

 

[gus-lopez]

Also, cant find where it says you cant overnight away from home between 29/3 and 11/4
I know campsites,B&Bs, etc cant open, but what about your own holiday home?

No it still comes under the March 8th rles.
here;

Staying away from home overnight​

You cannot leave your home or the place where you are living for holidays or overnight stays unless you have a reasonable excuse for doing so. This means that holidays in the UK and abroad are not allowed.


This includes staying in a second home, caravan or boat, if that is not your primary residence. This also includes staying with anyone who you don’t live with unless they’re in your support bubble.


You are allowed to stay overnight away from your home if you:

• are visiting your support bubble
• are unable to return to your main residence
• need accommodation while moving house
• need accommodation to attend a funeral or related commemorative event
• require accommodation for work purposes or to provide voluntary services
• are a child requiring accommodation for school or care
• are homeless, seeking asylum, a vulnerable person seeking refuge, or if escaping harm (including domestic abuse)
• are an elite athlete or their support staff or parent provided the athlete is under 18 and it is necessary to be outside of the home in order to take part in training or a competition

Guest accommodation providers such as hotels, B&Bs and caravan parks may remain open for the specific reasons set out in law.



& from the 29th you still cannot overnight until the 12th April

The rules will not be relaxed to allow overnight stays until the second step of the roadmap, which will come at least five weeks after 8 March – no earlier than 12 April.

From then: “Overnight stays away from home in this country will be permitted and self-contained accommodation – those that do not require shared use of bathing, entry/exit, catering or sleeping facilities – can also reopen, though must only be used by members of the same household.”

https://inews.co.uk/news/uk/overnig...id-rules-lockdown-roadmap-announcement-882591

 

[Skyblue]

Thank you for the replies - I’m going to plan ( that’s new for me ) on going away for a few sneaky nights away at the end of April. I figure I’ll be able to do that

 

[Camper Sue]

England and Wales probably touch and go, Scotland not till We Willie Sturgeon gets her head out of her backside

Oh come on!

 

[Biddersms0001]

I don't want to comment on who is right and who is wrong and moral action correctness. That said here is a screen shot from Caravan Club, who I would like to think have had advise to ensure the advice they are offering is on the right side of the law. - hope it is if use.

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