What season tyres?

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SheikhLala

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I'm going to have to change the front tyres shortly and wondered which season to choose and why?
I've never run anything but summer tyres on my vans, so do I stick with what I know or do I need to have different considerations for a MH?
 
All Terrain or winter tyres have more aggressive tread patterns.. useful on wet grass and wet roads
Ah oki doki... what he said 🤣🤣🤣
 
Fitted michelin cross climates recently. Confident they will be better on grass/mud as well as in colder weather. If you go with winter/ all season, i would change all 4 tyres.
 
SheikhLala said:
I'm going to have to change the front tyres shortly and wondered which season to choose and why?
I've never run anything but summer tyres on my vans, so do I stick with what I know or do I need to have different considerations for a MH?
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Will you drive it a lot when it's below 5 degrees or in very slippy conditions?

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Greasy Chap Butty said:
Will you drive it a lot when it's below 5 degrees or in very slippy conditions?
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To be honest I don’t know. This is my first MH and we’ve used it quite a bit so far this year and have got a few more things lined up before the end of the year. Driving back from Norfolk on Sunday was very wet but I tend to slow down and keep an extra big gap in wet weather, so the MH felt very stable and slowed without any bum clenching!
On my work vans I’ve always had summer tyres but with a good “wet” rating.
I don’t particularly want to put Continental Vanco Campers back on as the ride is so harsh.
 
May be of interest.. Most if not all Winter Tyres are classified winter but with summer capabilities.
The Cross Climates differ however in that they are a summer tyre with winter capabilities.👍👍
 
SheikhLala said:
To be honest I don’t know. This is my first MH and we’ve used it quite a bit so far this year and have got a few more things lined up before the end of the year. Driving back from Norfolk on Sunday was very wet but I tend to slow down and keep an extra big gap in wet weather, so the MH felt very stable and slowed without any bum clenching!
On my work vans I’ve always had summer tyres but with a good “wet” rating.
I don’t particularly want to put Continental Vanco Campers back on as the ride is so harsh.
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I'd do what you do with work vans, if you are happy with that. Unless the MH use would be different for some reason?

On the car I have winter tyres on winter wheels. If you are keeping the vehicle and do enough miles, it's worth it as you'll go through a few sets anyway. Then just put the winter wheels on when it gets to that time.
Then you can have good summer, with a good wet rating, and proper winter tyres.
Depends on mileage, budget and place to store the wheels of course.

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poppycamper said:
All Terrain or winter tyres have more aggressive tread patterns.. useful on wet grass and wet roads
Ah oki doki... what he said 🤣🤣🤣
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Look at Davanti terratourers from Elite wheels
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Hi.
Other people will know exactly. I believe... In some countries ,you have to have Winter Tyres fitted during certain winter months as by law. We are ready for a change due to the 5 yr period and the speeds we travel at,so thinking of proper Winter tyres,at the moment,i am on All Seasons,which would appear to not qualify under " Winter Tyres."

Tea Bag
 
Tea Bag said:
Hi.
Other people will know exactly. I believe... In some countries ,you have to have Winter Tyres fitted during certain winter months as by law. We are ready for a change due to the 5 yr period and the speeds we travel at,so thinking of proper Winter tyres,at the moment,i am on All Seasons,which would appear to not qualify under " Winter Tyres."

Tea Bag
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Thought the "3peaks" markings... NOT M&S... Designated winter approved tyres.
Cross Climate's are an All Season Tyre and they are marked with both M&S and 3peaks. Therefore IMV designated Winter Tyres.
 
poppycamper said:
Thought the "3peaks" markings... NOT M&S... Designated winter approved tyres.
Cross Climate's are an All Season Tyre and they are marked with both M&S and 3peaks. Therefore IMV designated Winter Tyres.
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Correct 👍 more than happy with our Maxxis vansmart AS/AL2 all seasons three peak marked tyres 👍

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Hi Y'all.
Armed with this knowledge,i will go and have a look at my " All Season Tyres ? ". Maybe i have missed the 3PMSF or just 3 Peaks markings. Will report back.
Tea Bag
 
poppycamper said:
Thought the "3peaks" markings... NOT M&S... Designated winter approved tyres.
Cross Climate's are an All Season Tyre and they are marked with both M&S and 3peaks. Therefore IMV designated Winter Tyres.
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Hi.
Been and had a looked...WELL pleased. Pirelli Chrono ( An extra option on the Wildax when we ordered it.) Four Seasons,with......... M+S.Three peaks and icicle. RESULT. Sorted as regards legal requirements in certain countries. I run 58 front and 64 back,nice ride/road holding and quiet,but,not that clever on wet grass.
Tea Bag
 
I too run with all season tyres,in the form of.....................

www.falkentyre.com

VAN TYRES

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We head for the sun over winter, so comply with the laws of the countries we travel through, regarding the tyres required for winter conditions. They'll also come in handy for meets on wet grass.

Cheers,

Jock. :)
 
And just to reiterate the winter tyre requirements abroad, here's an update on the French legal requirements.

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France Winter Tyre Rules

Extract from Connexion Winter tyre rules enforced On November 1, people driving without winter tyres or chains in mountainous areas where they are required will risk a fine of €135. The Loi Montagne applies to 48 French departments, which can choose to implement the rules across their...
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Cheers,

Jock. :)
 
SheikhLala you need to ask yourself if you are planning to go to Europe in the winter as there are specific requirements around the need for three peak marked tyres. Some funsters run winter tyres all year or you can look for a compliant all season tyre, such as the Maxxis vansmart AS/AL2 all seasons three peak marked tyre (this is a van tyre not a camper tyre) as highlighted by rb62. I also use these and have been very happy with them. There are of course other all season tyres as well!

In general I think it fair to say you will get better grip on damp grass with all season and winter tyres than summer tyres - I can't, however, produce any scientific evidence to support that conclusion!

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clanjones said:
I can't, however, produce any scientific evidence to support that conclusion!
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Not scientific I agree, but definitely "hands on" evidence when I say that with FWD and summer tyres, I struggled on snow and wet grass from a standing start. With FWD and winter tyres, I just drove off as normal. (y)

Now with RWD and "All Season" 3 x PMSF, I'm even more able to cope with those conditions. ;).

Cheers,

Jock. :)
 
JockandRita said:
Now with RWD and "All Season" 3 x PMSF, I'm even more able to cope with those conditions. ;).
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IMO the best possible combination...
Even with summer tyres, RWD is far superior, traction wise, to FWD with all season tyres.
Some WILL disagree and state their FWD is phenomenal in slippy/slidey conditions. That is only because they have never experienced the extra traction delivered by a RWD vehicle.
 
poppycamper said:
IMO the best possible combination...
Even with summer tyres, RWD is far superior, traction wise, to FWD with all season tyres.
Some WILL disagree and state their FWD is phenomenal in slippy/slidey conditions. That is only because they have never experienced the extra traction delivered by a RWD vehicle.
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Apart from our previous privately owned vehicles, almost all other vehicles I have driven have been RWD.

I got caught out twice in heavy snow whilst driving commercial vehicles, hours away from home. On both occasions I made it back, albeit taking longer than usual, whilst other vehicles were stuck by the roadside, or took shelter for the night. (y)

Cheers,

Jock. :)
 
JockandRita said:
Apart from our previous privately owned vehicles, almost all other vehicles I have driven have been RWD.

I got caught out twice in heavy snow whilst driving commercial vehicles, hours away from home. On both occasions I made it back, albeit taking longer than usual, whilst other vehicles were stuck by the roadside, or took shelter for the night. (y)

Cheers,

Jock. :)
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FWD in a lightly loaded white man van or delivery van that does not have much load, and therefore weight over back axles does make sense, more weight at front, so more front wheel traction.
However, take the same van.. fit it out as a motorhome, then you are adding (permanent, not ocassional) weight to the rear and therefore increasing weight on the rear axle and reducing the weight on the front wheels therefore the traction to the front wheels.
When i look at some motorhomes, especially those with so called garages and large rear end overhangs I am surprised their front wheel are actually in contact with the ground, never mind being able to produce any traction to be of any use apart from bone dry tarmac surfaces.
I personally have pulled a FWD motorhome (Ducato based, others available) out of a loose gravel layby. So what chance would he have on anything apart from a flat tarmacadamed surface??
 
SheikhLala said:
I'm going to have to change the front tyres shortly and wondered which season to choose and why?
I've never run anything but summer tyres on my vans, so do I stick with what I know or do I need to have different considerations for a MH?
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I e put lots of info on here regarding tyres. If you search with my username it will come up
 

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