Van shaking on motorway

tallulah

tallulah

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Hi we are actually driving on m25 in our first motorhome and getting used to it all. Just a note to ask is it normal for the van to shake on every slight bump in the road? We were going over the old concrete orange section and the van was bumping so much the top of the radio fell out! The front cab area was really shaking! Only doing 50 /60
It's a 2010 burstener 726g is this normal?!
 
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I would immediately check tightness of all wheel nuts.
 
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The M25 southern section is renowned for being a bone shaker, plus the scream of the tyres from other vehicles that pass with the rhythmic....... badum....badum.
Its almost like a vehicle rumble & suspension test track, been like it since it opened, but the concrete slabs seem to have opened up, and have been filled in with lines of hot tarmac, which being raised, create the problem, it really is a joke, but not a funny one.

Whats the van like to drive on "Normal" road surfaces? If its OK then just put it down to being the rough concrete sections on the M25.

We travel along The M25 often as we live close to it, I like others watched them install millions of pounds worth of high noise deflecting fences, they have been scientifically designed, we are told,to reduce the traffic noise to properties nearby, but IMHO it just made the noise deflect further out.

Why they didnt just put a nice smooth layer of tarmac over the concrete base?, maybe it wouldn't last as long as concrete, but it would be a lot quieter, and the white lines would be more visible at night, and would negate having to have these elaborate fences in some areas.
Good luck, but yes check your wheel nuts, and front struts for leakages, which should be checked at service time or MOT.
LES

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Wheel nuts first followed by checking wheel balancing and condition of tyres, could be a deformed tyre or bulge,
But the concrete section of the M25 is shockingly bad with the expansion strips sounding like you are on the railway, ( Clackie clack) I have to turn up the radio on the south section,
 
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old-mo said:
Possibly too higher pressure in the tyres... If it`s that bad... :happy:
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Wot the very old geezer sed.
I run ours @65lbs front 55lbs rear (tag axle).
You will have many different pressures thrown at you but I run what we are comfortable with ?
 
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Could be shock absorbers or loose ball joints/ track rod ends, as well as the above, but no, it’s not normal. We’ve had new and old vans and none have shaken that badly over any road surface

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Agree about the M25 southern section, never know our van to rattle and shack like it did on that road. Short time after going on it a couple of years ago the whole fridge unit in our van started to move, I had to fix it back with aluminium angle brackets. I would try and avoid if at all possible.
 
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Thanks so much we stopped and checked wheel nuts seems fine now on m40 north passing oxford and a lot quieter. At 60mph Maybe tyres too high as we are newbies we are listening out for every sound! All your info is really helping us. Have any of of got this type of van ? Burstner 726 g 3 ltrs 2010 4000 kg gross weight?
Must admit we were not expecting this much noise ! But will get used to it.
 
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Run my tyres on a 4250kg chassis, 16"wheels at 55psi front & 70psi rear. And it still rattles on concrete roads. Pressures recommended by "Continental tyres" based on weighbridge axle loads in touring trim.
 
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I regularly drive my m/h on that M25 section and it's a real pain. I even feel the severe jarring/ thumping/banging at the steering wheel as I pass over the expansion joints.
A concrete section of the M27 near Southampton is just the same.
 
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Some of the M25 is quite interesting on a motorcycle too - trying to get out of a rut to change lanes for example.

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I would drive it for a few weeks get used to it and over a range of roads then you’ll get a feel of the vehicle and if things don’t feel right look into it.

Regards.
 
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Yes your right it's new to us . We are on way to NEC so will get some advice there too.
 
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Just as an aside, as they say.
One thing that really does give peace of mind when travelling in the van is a set of dash mounted solar powered Tyrepal (TPMS) tyre pressure monitors.
Once each of the sensors are placed on each tyre, and you apply the safety margins,i.e +or- 10%, they will monitor not only each tyre pressure individually, but also the temperature, giving hopefully an earlier indication of a potential flat or blow out.
Check Wombles threads to see The Funster Discount, best money you can spend on a safety device IMHO, hopefully supported by many others on here that have bought them also.
Safe Travels
LES
 
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tallulah said:
Btw quite surprised at other motorhome travellers wave at us we thought something was wrong for a bit but kids love it such your such a social.bunch!!
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Wait until you start mistaking Tesco and Asda delivery vans for motorhomes and waving at them, it confuses the hell out of them. :ROFLMAO:

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Thanks so much for all advice will definately look at the tyre solar monitors
 
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In defence of the M25 and it's concrete base, I know it's hard on the ear drums,and uncomfortable at times, but it beats the 'Tarmac' M4 West Bound with all it's truck tyre ruts and having to fight them.

We normally stay in the 'near side lane'(?) being a LHD; curb side anyway,which is the worst lane to be.

Robert
 
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In defence of the M25 and it's concrete base, I know it's hard on the ear drums,and uncomfortable at times, but it beats the 'Tarmac' M4 West Bound with all it's truck tyre ruts and having to fight them.

We normally stay in the 'near side lane'(?) being a LHD; curb side anyway,which is the worst lane to be.

Robert
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The M4 Westbound from Bracknell junction to all the way past Theale has undergone, and still is, a massive widening and resurfacing campaign. its been a pain in the butt for years now, but the surface in that area is much improved...for now at least.
I do however get your point on road ruts caused by HGV's, they can catch you out at times and are not nice.
LES
 
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My old shock absorbers felt okay on normal roads but banged and bounced awfully on uneven stuff.
When removed found one side barely moved and the other side had no fluid left and was way too soft.
 
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tallulah said:
Thanks so much for all advice will definately look at the tyre solar monitors
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Here's the thread that TinaL mentioned https://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/foru...-code-for-funsters.194219/page-3#post-3666792 but currently waiting for TyrePal to make our 2020 discount code live but there are usually website https://www.tyrepal.co.uk/product-category/product/ offers at the same time or just after the CCM Show which starts tomorrow. Even if you don't fit this version it is a good idea safety wise to have some form of TPMS.

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Charente16 said:
In defence of the M25 and it's concrete base, I know it's hard on the ear drums,and uncomfortable at times, but it beats the 'Tarmac' M4 West Bound with all it's truck tyre ruts and having to fight them.
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Concrete roads have a predicted design life of 40 years, whereas flexible roads (tarmac) about 20 years. If the noise lobby had been more vocal in the 60's/70's we would NEVER have had concrete roads. The Department of Transport were extensively lobbied by the Cement & Concrete Association and capitulated to their demands (in order to appease both sides, concrete verses tarmac).

Concrete roads do, however, have their place.....to spread the load in areas of poor ground conditions, like flood plains and low lying areas. Which is why it's a favourite construction method in parts of Belgium and the Netherlands.

It's now high time that Highways England undo the environmental damage caused by concrete roads (since the expiry of the 40 year design life has now been long been exceeded). The M20 bypass around Maidstone was converted to flexible construction by pre-cracking the existing concrete surface and overlaying with about 200mm of tarmac. New full depth flexible construction was only required at overbridges in order to maintain headroom.

I rest my case, m'lord :LOL:
 
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As said that stretch of the M25 is almost as bad as Belgium Roads, well not really it would be hard to get down to that level.
You have the maxi chassis which is a very hard ride just be thankful you have Al-Ko and not the Fiat. If you have the Michelin Camping Tyres they are dreadful very hard noisy ride worst tyres I've ever come across.

Our vans on the 4500kg chassis version the ride was awful so bad we spent some money on full air suspension. Its a lot better it now thumps over bumps rather than crashing. Also going to change the Michelin tyres way before they are worn out to get better ride & a decent level of grip.
 
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