Urgent question re. Authenticity

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Hi, I am hoping to buy my first motorhome, and have started an enquiry with Easy Living Motorhomes. The company address is Coventry. However the vehicles are apparently stored in Germany, where there is a second company address. I have been emailing back and forth, the upshot is that the van has to be paid for, in Euros, prior to delivery (extra £200 fuel charge). Then I supposedly get 5 days to make a decision whether to keep it. If I choose not to, I get full refund. I have checked the company online: the only references are to do with Companies House. No reviews, etc. Anybody come across this before? The seller says it's normal practice to sell like this? Please advise asap
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Sounds like a scam to me ,why would you pay up front and pay an additional 200 euros for something you haven't seen
If your serious I would advise the seller that you have a friend in Germany close to where the vehicles are who will view the vehicle ,if it's ok he will drive it back to the UK for you. See what they say
It's a bit like the scam where the seller is working on the rugs and can't arrange a viewing but will deliver after payment. Etc etc
Certainly a scam.
There is a link here
https://easyliving-ltd.com/reviews/
Is this the same company ,they also have an office in Germany.

Just looking at the prices for second hand motorhomes in thier website as an example 2009 swift Sundance 630 L, £17 k, sorry but this is a scam as are all the prices.all the pictures are in different locations, done with awnings attached etc.
 
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From the chart below they look like a fairly new start up.

Almost every person using this forum has bought a Motorhome within the last decade.
It would be interesting to know if anyone has used this company in the past.
Personally I'd be a bit wary about this. They may says it's 'standard practice' but it's not a practice I've come across before.
There are a few dealers on this forum. Ask them !
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Also, google the 'Chattel Mortgages' motorhome scandal, which is still ongoing.
You will need written confirmation, from any dealer, that should your new van prove, years down the line, to be involved, then they will recompense you 100%.

(Just wondering if some of the affected motorhomes have been moved to Germany to keep them out of the way)
 
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Andrew Rodney Hughes, one of the directors, is also linked to Big Wave Campers Ltd on companies house records, they have premises in Bude, Cornwall, as well as the company address in Coventry. The Coventry company addresses for the two companies are different. There are a number of reviews of Big Wave on a Google search.. reviews of big wave campers, bude

There are mixed reviews for the company, which appears to be mainly a converter of VW’s.

Patrick Joseph Hughes who was associated with Easy Living appears to be the father of Andrew, and it looks as though he passed away shortly after the company was formed.

Andrew is also associated with Big Wave Competitions, who operated winning motorhome competitions on Facebook and the web. The web site is remarkably similar to that of the Bude site. https://bigwavecompetitions.co.uk/?...trEVQqh5u2HjITuOogiDwI_HV3ss4iRId6fHqYDIBMNG8

While I would not follow the instructions you have been given, there is the scope for you to do more research personally if you are minded to commit.
 
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This is the EasyLiving address on the website:

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This is their photo of their base on the EasyLIving website .. can you see the tree motif in the window of the building on the right?

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This is Oak Tree Motorhomes in Nottingham ...

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Recognise the Shed at the back and the low white building to the right?

Run away ......

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I didn't see the website photo of thier site but concur that the photo is that of Oaktree motorhomes at Nottingham .
I don't know how they can get away registering a company and showing photos of another companies site. Can't be legal.
 
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Jimbohorlicks said:
I didn't see the website photo of thier site but concur that the photo is that of Oaktree motorhomes at Nottingham .
I don't know how they can get away registering a company and showing photos of another companies site. Can't be legal.
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Known in the legal biz as the tort of "passing off". Trading on another company's goodwill. It would be up to Oaktree to sue them.
 
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Personally I would not pay full price up front for a motorhome in the UK from a known dealer without fist seeing it, let alone in another currency for a van that is not in the UK from a dealer I cannot verify.
If its the van you want then there is significantly less risk and less potential cost in paying to travel to see it then decide.
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You will sleep sounder.
 
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suavecarve said:
That is top quality investigative work.
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Thank you, but it's just a right click and 'Search Image with Google Lens' - it's a clever bit of kit.

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Jimbohorlicks said:
I didn't see the website photo of thier site but concur that the photo is that of Oaktree motorhomes at Nottingham .
I don't know how they can get away registering a company and showing photos of another companies site. Can't be legal.
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I’ve come across this situation before where the scammers are passing themselves off by ‘borrowing’ details of otherwise legit businesses - company listing and directors from here, physical premises, from there, photos of ‘stock’ from anywhere on the web. Their website is a composite of all of those and they only exist behind a keyboard waiting to divest poor punters of their hard earned.

The company and directors that they have ‘cloned’ from may not even be aware of it.
 
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Had a colleague who was scammed over the purchase of a VW Campervan, coming from Holland.
Despite the warning signs, there were loads, they still persuaded her to part with £16K for a van that would've cost at least twice that over here. They kept moving the delivery date, finding excuses for why it hadn't been loaded on the ferry, until the payment cleared then they vanished in to thin air with the cash. She thought she was safe by paying with PayPal but it didn't turn out that way :crying1:

Personally, I wouldn't touch this with a barge pole.
 
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daveandsan said:
The op should be able to afford to join MotorhomeFun now with the money you lot have just saved him.
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And buy us all a drink when he meets up with us on one of the rallies, but there again ,that could also prove to be expensive for him. :rofl: :rofl:
 
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Son got scammed by one like this over an old vw camper and being covered by paypal and ebay but ultimatly was not and lost it all run has fast as you can.
 
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