Up Plating this N&B Arto possible? (1 Viewer)

[Jon Stewart]

Hi all,
Looking at the axle weights in the photo, am I right in thinking that this could be up plated to 4.5t?

If the axles can already take the weights shown, what other changes might need to be made? Brakes, tyres, wife ?

Thanks in advance.
Jon

 

[Jo662]

CazPaul , nicholsong or Northernraider may be able to help

 

[Northernraider]

Yeah it should be able to go to 4500... possibly more with add ons like air suspension or larger tyres etc.

 

[Jon Stewart]

Yeah it should be able to go to 4500... possibly more with add ons like air suspension or larger tyres etc.

Thanks for the reply Northernraider.

Being a newbie, I still don't know what I don't know, and not sure of what I think I do!

Can only get better.
Jon

 

[nicholsong]

Different from our Arto 69GL (2003) which is currently at 3850kg and I am told can go to 4000kg with air suspension.

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[Jo662]

Btw

 

[Jon Stewart]

Different from our Arto 69GL (2003) which is currently at 3850kg and I am told can go to 4000kg with air suspension.

Yes, this one would appear to have a heavier chassis, as I see the quoted weights for online sources for this model is typically starting at 3.5t

Presumably that was an option, and this MH might weel be worth further consideration.

Would quite like to avoid too many bad mistakes buying my first MH, coming over from the dark side (caravanning!).

Buy in haste, repent at leisure!

 

[suavecarve]

You have options now.

You can pay money to SVtech who can uprate it for you for a cost

Or you can contact Vanweightengineering who will do exactly the same but you can afford to buy the wine that you will then be able to carry because they will be cheaper and no lesser service (the choice is yours) and you will pay less in vehicle excise license

 

[nicholsong]

Yes, this one would appear to have a heavier chassis, as I see the quoted weights for online sources for this model is typically starting at 3.5t

Presumably that was an option, and this MH might weel be worth further consideration.

Would quite like to avoid too many bad mistakes buying my first MH, coming over from the dark side (caravanning!).

Buy in haste, repent at leisure!

You are quite right to delve to get these answers, some do not.

NB Van weight engineering are reportedly currently awaiting re-accreditation from DVSA.

 

[Jon Stewart]

You have options now.

You can pay money to SVtech who can uprate it for you for a cost

Or you can contact Vanweightengineering who will do exactly the same but you can afford to buy the wine that you will then be able to carry because they will be cheaper and no lesser service (the choice is yours) and you will pay less in vehicle excise license

Thanks for that, suavecarve , been reading a lot in other threads about VWE's travails at the moment.

Loving your trip journals, by the way. Already starting to think about where I'd like to revisit first (but in an MH, this time)

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[dunnah01]

First thing you need to do is get your rear axle on a weighbridge to see how close you already are to the 2400kg limit. If you are already close to the limit then unless you have tons of suitable storage around the cab area then there's very little point in paper up-plating.

 

[Jon Stewart]

First thing you need to do is get your rear axle on a weighbridge to see how close you already are to the 2400kg limit. If you are already close to the limit then unless you have tons of suitable storage around the cab area then there's very little point in paper up-plating.

Yes, you're absolutely right, given the variation in actual weights, especially after the other stuff added outside the 'standard' equipment.

I might suggest the dealer does this, if I thought I trusted them!

Thanks for that, dunnah01

 

[Grasmere9]

We have an older Arto (2005) absolutely love it!! Few little problems but generally a great motorhome. Off to Warmingham in ours tomorrow for a weekend of Motocross before France next Friday!!
So excited! I could live in ours

 

[Northernraider]

I've just sealed a deal on an N&B Flair myself but not got it yet . Its 6 tonne but could go to 6950 I believe

 

[Minxy]

I've just sealed a deal on an N&B Flair myself but not got it yet . Its 6 tonne but could go to 6950 I believe

Oooo ... You could have not only a donkey and a camel but a pony too!

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[Northernraider]

Oooo ... You could have not only a donkey and a camel but a pony too!

I can tow 3500kg too lol

 

[Jon Stewart]

Oooo ... You could have not only a donkey and a camel but a pony too!

Minxy but Northernraider hasn't told us how much payload!

That MH can't be very light!

Personally, I'm after <7.5m, ideally 4.5 to 5t for payload reasons. Hope the back axle doesn't break!

 

[Jon Stewart]

I've just sealed a deal on an N&B Flair myself but not got it yet . Its 6 tonne but could go to 6950 I believe

Love it!

However, stick to the hard standings!

 

[Northernraider]

Minxy but Northernraider hasn't told us how much payload!

That MH can't be very light!

Personally, I'm after <7.5m, ideally 4.5 to 5t for payload reasons. Hope the back axle doesn't break!

As it stands 1530kg payload .

 

[Jon Stewart]

Now I'm completely jealous.

How many cases of wine is that?

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[jongood]

Minxy but Northernraider hasn't told us how much payload!

That MH can't be very light!

Personally, I'm after <7.5m, ideally 4.5 to 5t for payload reasons. Hope the back axle doesn't break!

They are generally designed to run over 3500kgs but downplated to sell. Not sure about the most recent stuff which always seems flimsier but N+b always used to use the best options for the running gear.

 

[jongood]

I've just sealed a deal on an N&B Flair myself but not got it yet . Its 6 tonne but could go to 6950 I believe

Nice one Tam. Iveco chassis? 2.8 or 3 litre?

 

[Northernraider]

Nice one Tam. Iveco chassis? 2.8 or 3 litre?

Yes iveco 2.8.

 

[The Coops]

I can tow 3500kg too lol

Now I'm completely jealous.

How many cases of wine is that?

1500 bottles plus cases!

 

[Northernraider]

1500 bottles plus cases!

I doubt I could drink that many between now and death and I'm only 51 lol

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[jongood]

1500 bottles plus cases!

Get even more in Conde Noble boxes

 

[jongood]

I doubt I could drink that many between now and death and I'm only 51 lol

I'm up for trying, even if I do have 10 years less I'm willing to sacrifice my own happiness in the name of research

 

[Northernraider]

I'm up for trying, even if I do have 10 years less I'm willing to sacrifice my own happiness in the name of research

And you've even more payload on yours .what's your van again? 12 tonne?

Still my favourite van on here.

 

[nicholsong]

We have an older Arto (2005) absolutely love it!! Few little problems but generally a great motorhome. Off to Warmingham in ours tomorrow for a weekend of Motocross before France next Friday!!
So excited! I could live in ours

We are just contemplating a 5-6 month trip next year - not quite full-time but it shows some of us feel comfortable that Artos, and of course Flairs, are good for this sort of use.

 

[Minxy]

We are just contemplating a 5-6 month trip next year - not quite full-time but it shows some of us feel comfortable that Artos, and of course Flairs, are good for this sort of use.

Whilst we can't easily do such long trips due to our Shengen limitations we'd quite happily live in our Carthago full-time without a problem if we had to ... We did 2 months earlier this year, then another month and are currently in Scotland planning on doing another month ... then when our Shengen allowance kicks in again ... who knows!