Twin singles or Double

[Pausim]

Many twins can be made into large doubles but I fail to understand how they are sheeted.

My wife has made up smaller fitted sheets to fit the middle section cushions. The larger one is in permanent use anyway and only the smaller foot section needs adding to make up a generous full width double bed.

 

[Clemmo]

Two singles with the option of insert between if you wish to join them, over a large garage is what we’ve got..
we can Both get up without disturbing the other,,,,,,and the Garage secures our E-Bikes. ( + more!)
Love "fixed bed"..love the garage. Took a while but feel its the best layout for us.

 

[Dave and Mand]

Over cab double for us every time

 

[jdk62]

Two singles with the option of insert

Lucky bugger......

 

[Minxy]

If you go for singles put a cheap rug between them to save wearing out the carpet.

Two singles with the option of insert between if you wish to join them, over a large garage is what we’ve got.

Ooo double entendre alert!

Is that from trotting over to get in the other bed?

Evidently my attempt at subtlety was over-ambitious.

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[Minxy]

My wife has made up smaller fitted sheets to fit the middle section cushions. The larger one is in permanent use anyway and only the smaller foot section needs adding to make up a generous full width double bed.

That's exactly what I did for our Campscout's beds, we never used it as a full width/length double though so never bothered carrying the bits with us.

 

[tonyidle]

Two doubles: over-cab drop-down for me; Queen in rear for Gaye.

 

[Minxy]

We've had various types of beds - those made up from the seating (no way Jose!), a French bed which was a bit narrow, various transverse ones, one being massive but getting in/out was always an issue as I was the one having to clamber not only onto the bed but then hurl myself over the 'mountain' that was hubby although I did perfect the flip-flop with a twist in the middle to land safely! Getting out was more difficult though as it was a 'sheer drop' once over the 'mountain' top!

We then changed to singles and they were great for getting in/out and having a better night's sleep due to not being disturbed by the other person's moving around but they aren't very wide and sometimes it felt as if I was gonna fall out.

When we bought our current MH we were actually considering one with twin singles but didn't want the length that it would necessitate to get them so instead came up with the idea of getting the shorter version and having a double each so we did that ... hubby in the front drop down bed and me in the rear transverse, works a treat, we each have our own peaceful space (hubby snores but I don't hear it so much now) with a nice big bed to slob out on and of course either bed is available for nookie (usually too knackered though!).

As for an island bed, we wouldn't want the extra length in order to accommodate it along with the more restricted storage.

 

[Minxy]

We have twin singles and have opted to substitute cupboards for the front double. However all is not lost when the friskier moments are upon us, a slide out section with a built in ladder plus the infill cushion are easily organised before the moment is lost.

Strewth, you must have some stamina!

 

[two]

I much prefer to sleep on beds with mattresses made for the purpose. Sleeping across a patchwork of cushions, over differing surfaces, reminds me of my early caravanning days before the idea of permanent beds had arrived. I'm not sure that it's possible to make a double across twin singles without using special sheets (and under blankets).

I'm not sure why an island (not French) bed should reduce the size of the garage. It hasn't in our case. We did choose to have a lower bed (not always an option) to avoid one of the steps up into bed. The e-bikes still fit in the garage after removing the front wheels (and take up less space that way).
Getting back to sheets: I'd be wary of beds that fold away to provide 'day space'. I've not tried them, but would expect sheets to be pulled out and creases created unless some kind of elasticated material was used.

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[Coolcats]

Getting back to sheets: I'd be wary of beds that fold away to provide 'day space'. I've not tried them, but would expect sheets to be pulled out and creases created unless some kind of elasticated material was used.

Our bed has three mattresses the middle lifts up to expose the 'Garage', a sheet goes on each mattress there is no discernible gaps so you do not notice the three mattresses and life is too busy to spend time worrying about creases in bed sheets ! ( the lifting bed section does not add creases)

 

[TheTwoOfUs]

After having an A class with drop-down bed and clambering up and over to my front bit I much prefer two singles. Plus we have a rear bathroom which you tend not to get with island/French beds and in our opinion is much better than mid-van ones.

 

[JohnJan]

Brilliant

 

[Landy Andy]

 

[two]

Unless the insert is inserted, you'll need to find somewhere to store it.

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[SteveB123]

When sober, take a good look at your partner, that s

When sober, take a good look at your partner, that should answer your question

Thanks I have so Im going for singles

 

[nicholsong]

I'm not sure why an island (not French) bed should reduce the size of the garage. It hasn't in our case. We did choose to have a lower bed (not always an option) to avoid one of the steps up into bed. The e-bikes still fit in the garage after removing the front wheels (and take up less space that way).

two

What is your motorhome please?

Geoff

 

[busbuddy]

On some of the Van's we looked at the insert piece between the two singles actually covered the steps up to the bed so once you made it a double you had to jump down if needing the loo in the night and getting back in bed was very tricky

We have a transverse double over garage, I'm usually in a coma up against the rear wall so my good lady can get up whenever she wants

 

[Minxy]

On some of the Van's we looked at the insert piece between the two singles actually covered the steps up to the bed so once you made it a double you had to jump down if needing the loo in the night and getting back in bed was very tricky

We have a transverse double over garage, I'm usually in a coma up against the rear wall so my good lady can get up whenever she wants

I have a tall step/stool which I use at the side of the transverse bed, much easier to step down onto than a teeny weeny little step.

 

[Charlie57]

Unless the insert is inserted, you'll need to find somewhere to store it.

It takes up less room when in storage...or have I misunderstood this thread?

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[barsteward]

Definitely on the pull, but not so much down the pub in recent years.... Pubs are just so 1970's

Has the face mask improved you pulling power.

 

[Nasher]

Has the face mask improved you pulling power.

Makes very little difference, the ladies have always been attracted to my cute little bottom as well as my incredibly handsome face, my wonderful personality and above all my modesty

 

[peterc10]

Singles for us too. Much easier for the frequent calls on nature we have at our age. And it gives a decent sized garage underneath where I can securely store our Suzuki scooter.

And, if I get lucky (every fifth blue moon), we can easily make it into a double.

 

[Compactliner]

An island bed is much more friendly but twin singles are more practical (IMO).
Twin singles (usually) take up less of the vehicle length and provide better space for dressing or access to the small room. Many twins can be made into large doubles but I fail to understand how they are sheeted.
As you get older you may find the need for the loo becomes more frequent so easy access could become important and island beds are not quite so good. Transverse beds will be far less practical, even if you were fond of mountaineering once.

we went from a French bedded double to twin singles over a garage with pur first Carthago...seemed to have all the advantages, easy access with steps, huge sleeping area when centre infil used etc...
However, as above...sorting sheets/duvets out was a nightmare.
we already bought new (largish) singles but they just didnt work in keeping us fully covered with the bed in 'double' format. to change to a single (one) quilt would need a titanically large covering.
...and when the centre piece was inserted, the steps got covered and access was then by a short, built in ladder....no.
we persevered with the singles, but being young (lol) and still much in love, missed the large double as at home.
we loved the van but were also leaning towards a slimmer (Compactline) version.
we also felt we could do with a shorter van and island bedded versions (while curing the 'bed' issue, meant a similar length vehicle.
so we ended up with the transverse bedded i138 which has a lovely bed, togetherness at last, lol.
the garage is still great for such a small van and, yes, there is a large hop up to bed, but the step works well and we are 'svelte and athletic' ...
i sleep nearest the washroom as am most prone to hopping out at night...OH not a sound!
so, definitely horses for courses, we love the van an, in particular, the bed!

 

[nicholsong]

we went from a French bedded double to twin singles over a garage with pur first Carthago...seemed to have all the advantages, easy access with steps, huge sleeping area when centre infil used etc...
However, as above...sorting sheets/duvets out was a nightmare.
we already bought new (largish) singles but they just didnt work in keeping us fully covered with the bed in 'double' format. to change to a single (one) quilt would need a titanically large covering.
...and when the centre piece was inserted, the steps got covered and access was then by a short, built in ladder....no.
we persevered with the singles, but being young (lol) and still much in love, missed the large double as at home.
we loved the van but were also leaning towards a slimmer (Compactline) version.
we also felt we could do with a shorter van and island bedded versions (while curing the 'bed' issue, meant a similar length vehicle.
so we ended up with the transverse bedded i138 which has a lovely bed, togetherness at last, lol.
the garage is still great for such a small van and, yes, there is a large hop up to bed, but the step works well and we are 'svelte and athletic' ...
i sleep nearest the washroom as am most prone to hopping out at night...OH not a sound!
so, definitely horses for courses, we love the van an, in particular, the bed!

Thanks for a very interesting and relevant post.

You are speaking with the experience of having gone full circle.

At the moment our transverse is not a problem as Basia sleeps on the outside and I can still climb over and she hardly wakes, but planning for the future an island bed makes sense.

For reasons that I do not even want to write about now we may be changing our MH soon. Whilst we love the current one and its large comfortable transverse bed, if we change one of the 'would likes' is an island bed, but it has to be high enough not to impede the garage for my quite tall bicycle and in future a scooter/motorbike. The other 'would like' is a second garage door and the 'must have' is LHD, not that I need it, but for legal reasons(yawn!).

Trying to find all those in a high-spec (N&B, Cathargo, Concorde, Morelo) is difficult, at least secondhand. So we had thought that the availability of twin singles with a fill-in might be the answer. Your post has informed us about the drawbacks, although one with a ladder might not deter us as we have used the ladder for the driop-down when Basia's Mother came with us. But your other points against are also noted. It feels as though we are being pushed to a new MH.

As you mentioned the island bed does add to the vehicle's length, but it is not just the bed's fault; it is that all the island bed models seem to come with separate toilet and shower compartments. We currently have a combined one and are happy with it, because it is big enough for all activities. It means going from our 7m Arto to 8m min. and even then the sofas are shorter than our long 'L'-shaped one on which we can both lounge foot-to-foot and we do not want to go to 9m because we do Wild and Aires so need to fit into whatever space there is.

Anyway thanks for your useful post.

Geoff

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[two]

It takes up less room when in storage...or have I misunderstood this thread?

My point was that the infill is not small and must be stored somewhere.
Either in the van (garage/wardrobe) if needed for occasional recreation, or safe at home for the next owner.
Not a major issue but, like the complexity of sheeting-up the double created, not very practical in my book.
If you want a double bed, I'd suggest that's what you get. Otherwise I'd stick to two singles...

 

[Lenny HB]

My point was that the infill is not small and must be stored somewhere.
Either in the van (garage/wardrobe) if needed for occasional recreation, or safe at home for the next owner.
Not a major issue but, like the complexity of sheeting-up a double, not very practical in my book.
If you want a double bed, I'd suggest that's what you get. Otherwise I'd stick to two singles...

Our last two vans have been singles we never bothered with the optional infill as it would be just something else to put in one of the lofts at home.

 

[Westbarn1]

The Hymer we just sold had the 2 singles, plus 2 inserts, plus we added a topper on top to create a huge double, (over garage) it was very comfortable, BUT, Mrs not happy with using the ladder in middle of night, so we are now moving to another Hymer (BMCi790) with an island bed, that you can raise the height of whilst travelling to fit the cycles in.

 

[Alanben]

Two singles over a garage for us! and we have proved that there is enough room for two when the mood takes us ( thats in one of the beds and not the garage)

 

[Griffithii]

We have a 6.5 m Chausson with a large double island bed,variable height garage and toilet/shower large enough for fat person.
Double bed feels friendlier than 2 singles

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