Totally confused over which Michelin Crossclimates to get

[The Artilleryman]

Too many to choose from, Agilis Crossclimate, Crossclimate CP, Crossclimate+, Crossclimate2 and on , and on.

Bailey Autograph 68-2, never used a site yet, all off grid.

Existing tyres Agilis (6mm Front, 8mm Rear)

 

[Dorset Diver]

Can't help but interested to read what others post.

 

[TheMachMan]

We have the same Agilis ones. They have M + S on them which I assume is a good thing?
They’re not well regarded on MHF but been ok for us.

 

[DT]

M&S means nothing as proven last week on just a couple of metres of muddy grass.

 

[chippie]

I have fitted cross climate camping, only done 400 miles but no apparent increase in road noise compared to our old tyres and definetly feel sure footed in heavy rain/standing water.

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[ManTheVan]

We have the Agilis cross climates on our C-class 3.5t MH and have been utterly delighted with them. They’re quiet, really grippy and give a great ride. What’s not to like?

 

[Conal]

Just watched Redsgotravel negotiation the roads up to and out of Somport Tunnel into France my next tyres will definitely be all weather tyres. I will follow this thread for advice as to which ones. Our 4.5t motorhome spends months in storage so they will have to be Camper tyres.

 

[PP Bear]

Popped 4 of these on a few months back, personally I think they’re awesome

 

[Dorset Diver]

Just watched Redsgotravel negotiation the roads up to and out of Somport Tunnel into France my next tyres will definitely be all weather tyres. I will follow this thread for advice as to which ones. Our 4.5t motorhome spends months in storage so they will have to be Camper tyres.

Why camper tyres specifically?

 

[The Artilleryman]

They claim to be better suited to standing unused for long periods.

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[Conal]

Dorset Diver Camper tyres have more rigid sidewalks and so are more suited to motorhomes and camper vans when in storage. The problem is that the same part of the tyre is taking all the weight for long periods.

 

[poppycamper]

Quite simple really,
Crossclimates are for car vehicles regardless wether +, or 2, which are just newer versions of the original Crossclimates..
Crossclimate CP are specifically designed for Campers/motorhomes which I would personally avoid ..
However the ones you want are Crossclimate Agilis which are heavier duty and are designed for use on commercial vans...... not cars..
PS.. Agilis tyres are all season...

 

[Tio64]

Just watched Redsgotravel negotiation the roads up to and out of Somport Tunnel into France my next tyres will definitely be all weather tyres. I will follow this thread for advice as to which ones. Our 4.5t motorhome spends months in storage so they will have to be Camper tyres.

I believe after November this year tyres used in that region (along with many others) in winter months will by law need to be marked with the Three Peaks+Snowflake symbol.

Full details on the web.

 

[Conal]

Tio64 Yes, Redders (Redsgotravel) said he understood that, on the French side on Somport Tunnel, police were stopping drivers without the 3 peaks tyres from travelling further.

 

[Orion]

I believe after November this year tyres used in that region (along with many others) in winter months will by law need to be marked with the Three Peaks+Snowflake symbol.

Full details on the web.

Only if snow chains/socks are not carried.

It’s an either/or requirement.

Winter tires, chains: mandatory equipment in mountain areas from 1 November 2023

Winter tires or snow chains: mandatory equipment in mountain areas from 1 November 2023

www.service-public.fr

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[Conal]

Orion I haven’t researched it but Redders said that you will be turned away without 3 peaks tyres but you will be fined without snowchains. Interesting that the rules are being revised.

 

[treblid]

I believe after November this year tyres used in that region (along with many others) in winter months will by law need to be marked with the Three Peaks+Snowflake symbol.

Full details on the web.

Michelin Agilis CrossClimates are 3 peaks rated.
We had them on the VW van and they were excellent. They will be also going on the current van before next winter.

 

[Nirvanauk]

We have the same Agilis ones. They have M + S on them which I assume is a good thing?
They’re not well regarded on MHF but been ok for us.

I don’t know on here who doesn’t like them but I have them and think they are terrific so do a lot of others on here.

 

[poppycamper]

We have the same Agilis ones. They have M + S on them which I assume is a good thing?
They’re not well regarded on MHF but been ok for us.

M+S don't mean anything.... does not nessecarily mean they are winter tyres...
However Crossclimate Agilis tyres also have the 3PMS markings which are more meaningful...
Also Agilis tyres are all season tyres..
And fitted all round on our van for 5yrs.... Cannot fault them...

 

[The Artilleryman]

New Crossclimate Camper, next month - as long as the suspension work gets done at the end of this month.

Got the axle weights done last week, a bit worrying as I may have been overloaded (axle weight) at times last year.
May be a very long first day of our rally season this year as the weighbridge is in the wrong direction, but will need up to date weights.

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[Fragle]

Orion I haven’t researched it but Redders said that you will be turned away without 3 peaks tyres but you will be fined without snowchains. Interesting that the rules are being revised.

I watched the vlog.

Not all information given is correct.

Also if you listen to the audio his sat nav is informing him he is over the speed limit for the road. Considering the conditions he was driving in it was a bit silly.

The police might stop you in those conditions but as long as you have snow chains or socks you can continue with them fitted. He’s inferring that you must have winter tyres as well. Not correct. These you tubers really need to do a bit more research before making statements.
We have summer tyres on our van as that’s what it came with and only done 4k mile. We went down in January no problem chains in the garage.

 

[Markman]

Only if snow chains/socks are not carried.

It’s an either/or requirement.

Winter tires, chains: mandatory equipment in mountain areas from 1 November 2023

Winter tires or snow chains: mandatory equipment in mountain areas from 1 November 2023

www.service-public.fr

Except, copying from your link:
"FYI : From 1er November 2024, only 3PMSF tires will be accepted as chain equivalents. The purchase and use of other "snow tires" will remain possible, but users will also have to hold chains to travel on the 1er November to March 31 in the areas covered by the obligation.".

So whatever you get make sure they are stamped 3PMSF (3 Peak Mountain Snow Flake) or else you risk being able to access many passes from Nov this year.

Also a happy Michelin Agilis Cross Climate user. Had them in the Alps this year but never enough snow to actually needed them,