To sorn or not to sorn

[tuscancouple]

We will not. even though we are high risk, we shall be using the motorhome for day trips out just to stop the boredom

If the UK goes the way other countries are going, eg France, you will not be permitted to go out for day trips! Just to the shops, etc.

Mick

 

[Shrimp]

May as well leave it taxed, you can use it as & when you feel the need and even if it’s Sorned you still have to insure it!

 

[EuroTrotters]

I pay up-to 10 lots of VED.

May as well cancel 8 of em

 

[Minxy]

I try to give the van a run at end of month and then SORN, for a month. Start of month after I re-tax and give it a run at start and again at end of that month, then SORN again. It’s a Yorkshire thing

That's just what I was thinking about doing! Great Yorkshire minds think alike!

 

[poppycamper]

That's just what I was thinking about doing! Great Yorkshire minds think alike!

I try to give the van a run at end of month and then SORN, for a month. Start of month after I re-tax and give it a run at start and again at end of that month, then SORN again. It’s a Yorkshire thing

I know and understand that some folk like to save every possible penny especially if it saves them donating to the government.....
But honestly how much do you actually save by using this approach?????

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[Clickem]

Honestly - about £22 a month

 

[Minxy]

But honestly how much do you actually save by using this approach?????

£13.75 = between 1 and 20 cups of coffee depending on where you buy them from or if you make your own!

 

[poppycamper]

Honestly - about £22 a month

I must be missn something here... but surely it's not £22 a month but £22 every second month so actual savings only £11 a month.!!!!

 

[Clickem]

I must be missn something here... but surely it's not £22 a month but £22 every second month so actual savings only £11 a month.!!!!

You are missing something That the saving is £22 a month that the vehicle is SORN'd

 

[poppycamper]

You are missing something That the saving is £22 a month that the vehicle is SORN'd

Yes agreed but you seem to be sorning for one month.. then taxing for one month then resorning again etc etc so for a 4 month (for instance) period you are only saving £44 which equates to £11/month

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[Clickem]

Yes agreed but you seem to be sorning for one month.. then taxing for one month then resorning again etc etc so for a 4 month (for instance) period you are only saving £44 which equates to £11/month

You apply a logic that sounds very much like that of my dear wife. After being married for nearly 50 years I have learnt that the only way to have the last word is to say "Yes dear"

 

[David and Sally]

Ythe only way to have the last word is to say "Yes dear"

To which she replies "that's settled then" I doubt you ever get the last word in.

 

[Minxy]

I know and understand that some folk like to save every possible penny especially if it saves them donating to the government.....
But honestly how much do you actually save by using this approach?????

Honestly - about £22 a month

I must be missn something here... but surely it's not £22 a month but £22 every second month so actual savings only £11 a month.!!!!

You are missing something That the saving is £22 a month that the vehicle is SORN'd

Yes agreed but you seem to be sorning for one month.. then taxing for one month then resorning again etc etc so for a 4 month (for instance) period you are only saving £44 which equates to £11/month

You apply a logic that sounds very much like that of my dear wife. After being married for nearly 50 years I have learnt that the only way to have the last word is to say "Yes dear"

You are both right to an extent as it depends how you interpret the question and the answer:

• The actual saving for SORNing for a single month is £22.
• Over 4 months with 2 months SORN and 2 months on the road the average saving per month is £11
• If it was taken over 3 months with 2 months SORN and 1 month on the road it would be a saving of £14.67 a month

Unless you know exactly how many months you're gonna do it for however you cannot be sure of the average saving over the period so just saying when its SORNed you'll save £22 is the most accurate at present.

 

[pelican]

We will not. even though we are high risk, we shall be using the motorhome for day trips out just to stop the boredom. We do not need to interact with anyone else and it will do the motorhome good to be moving

Surely those are non essential journeys, Enlighten me.

 

[Minxy]

Surely those are non essential journeys, Enlighten me.

Essential to sanity maybe ... if they don't come into contact with anyone else then I can't see the harm in it, I think the non essential bit is really meant for those who go shopping, to pubs etc, and end up interacting with others, not just travelling.

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[Reallyretired]

I certainly plan to take mine out once a month just for a drive round and back again. Unless I'm told I can't.

 

[tuscancouple]

I think the non essential bit is really meant for those who go shopping,

Seriously? Non essential shopping? How do we get our food?

Mick

 

[pelican]

Essential to sanity maybe ... if they don't come into contact with anyone else then I can't see the harm in it, I think the non essential bit is really meant for those who go shopping, to pubs etc, and end up interacting with others, not just travelling.

It may help you if you read the quote I was replying to above it.

 

[tuscancouple]

From the UK Gov site:

Summary of advice

[Withdrawn] [Withdrawn] Guidance on social distancing for everyone in the UK

www.gov.uk

Mick

 

[gus-lopez]

I bet they rue the day they changed from offering only 12 or 6 month tax.

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[Apache]

All this talk of Sorn for a month or 2 or 3 then tax for a month or 2 or 3 is waaay to complicated for my little brain. It’s only £165 per year ! If I can’t afford that then I can’t afford a motorhome. Ours will stay taxed and hope we can give it a run occasionally.

 

[David and Sally]

All this talk of Sorn for a month or 2 or 3 then tax for a month or 2 or 3 is waaay to complicated for my little brain. It’s only £165 per year ! If I can’t afford that then I can’t afford a motorhome. Ours will stay taxed and hope we can give it a run occasionally.

Except that the insurance is way above that. But, on/off insurance would not be tolerated for too long I guess. They are expensive toys aren't they?

 

[Apache]

Probably not. The same applies to the insurance ie if I can’t afford that it might be time to re think. Besides I wouldn’t want to give an insurance company ANY excuse to refuse a payout and the van is much too valuable to risk it not being covered even for a second

 

[Minxy]

Seriously? Non essential shopping? How do we get our food?

Not that sort of shopping ... general mooching etc - plenty of people still doing that today!

It may help you if you read the quote I was replying to above it.

I did hence my response about them NOT coming into contact with others but protecting their sanity, this was the post you were replying to ...

 

[GWAYGWAY]

Give it two weeks and the same as Italy and Spain, not the disease but a worldwide coup taking place. I am out at the moment but do not think I will use it again after the changes going on now.
Something other than a virus going on behind the scenes world wide. Armies are mobilising from Asia, South America, Europe and North America. Even Trump has given in. Worldwide media is going mad and it doesn't look good. It was planned for years ago and woking up to this. It is the total financial collapse that is the important happening ,not The removal of a chunk of the unproductive population, does not make the slightest difference to the big picture. Wait and see if I am right,I think it will be weeks or a few months and the deeds will be done. Tony Blair and Bush Jnr promised it a few years ago. If dear old Hillary had got in in would have already happened. Trump threw a spanner in the works for a time

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[Minxy]

Give it two weeks and the same as Italy and Spain, not the disease but a worldwide coup taking place.
iI am out at the moment but do not think I will use it again after the changes going on now.
Something other than a virus going on behind the scenes world wide. Armies are mobilising from Asia, South America, Europe and North America. Even Trump has given in. Worldwide media is going mad and it doesn't look good. It was planned for years ago and woking up to this. It is the total financial collapse that is the important happening ,not The removal of a chunk of the unproductive population, does not make the slightest difference to the big picture. Wait and see if I am right,I think it will be week or a few months and the deeds will be done.

Riddles, in, he speaks ...

 

[Nanniemate]

I have been thinking about this today, I have to go shopping for essentials as I have not stocked up in any way but have decided that I will take Van rather than the car which was serviced and MOT's this week. I pay my car tax by DD monthly to get the benefits of a higher interest bank account (£2.62) As I only purchased the van last August I paid a full years tax so the money has gone and the van can be used.
So No, I am not going to Sorn either vehicle as yet. Van is due for an MOT in June so the service will be undertaken and the MOT as planned but the solar panels will be postponed but as soon as travelling is free again it's first on the to do list.
At present both vehicles only cost 'running fees' oil fuel etc so having two sat on the drive is not an issues. But if my job disappears one will be mothballed. Selling it would be pointless as no one would want it as no one can travel or have jobs to travel to. Or the other situation could be that all these people that have lease cars that they can no longer afford to pay for may be looking for relatively new well looked after preloved (second-hand) car and the market may be very buoyant especially if they do not wish/can to use public transport.
I am one of the few people in my street than can get a car in the garage for the junk (treasures) but £2.62 pays for yearly street parking and convienience.

 

[GWAYGWAY]

Riddles, in, he speaks ...

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I will clarify my statements. I believe that there is a total collapse of the western economies coming. The so called corona virus is the mechanism to control the whole population with fear/absolute panic.The Press and TV is controlled completely by the owners of those media and the 'security services' give the instruction.
Three local hospital Trusts have had three 'victims' of corona virus ,die, as tested by the non specific test they are given. That is in a population of 1.2 million patient catchment. The expected ' standard flu' would have been about twenty vulnerable people by now. There are no figures for flu deaths available. Just not there. All these current deaths being are from a virus and not specific.
the economic crash is being engineered and governments hijacked by the forces of black government the corporate owners of central banks. They are moving on from'Global Warming' and the like.
Income is stopping across Europe. People held down under 'armed forces, of police and now the armies. It is such a hysteria the in the next move all private movement will be stopped , as in Italy, Spain. France is going down too, we will follow. This has stopped the populist uprisings likr the Catalans ,the gilet jeune and any other s that might appear. Bullets will soon follow if the viral panic fails.
Do you think your pensions will support you. Not when the companies that give them to you, collapse.
Do you think the'Government' are really going to give out trillions in support? Not likely they might print more worthless notes and pretend. Your income is gone from now. If your business or pension is your Support? Crashes and bankruptcies to major companies and private business.
Your major income is going very soon, your freedoms are going soon, prepare for it.
The New World Order is entering the final phase and has been triggered, politicians are only puppets of the financial Elite. To quote 'I care not, of which King sits on a Throne, the ones that hold the money Holds the power.' To quote a Rothschild forebear. THE GREAT RESET is happening.
Watch the media hysterics until the individuals in it , realise too and stop their rantings.
I say no more now, and will say no more again, you will see very soon if I am correct, regardless of what you can or cannot believe to be the truth and the case. Civil unrest WILL follow an that is why the Army is being deployed, for when the population realise what has happened, too late.

 

[Richard n Ann]

Well at least it's a nice sunny day ?

 

[peterc10]

I will clarify my statements. I believe that there is a total collapse of the western economies coming. The so called corona virus is the mechanism to control the whole population with fear/absolute panic.The Press and TV is controlled completely by the owners of those media and the 'security services' give the instruction.
Three local hospital Trusts have had three 'victims' of corona virus ,die, as tested by the non specific test they are given. That is in a population of 1.2 million patient catchment. The expected ' standard flu' would have been about twenty vulnerable people by now. There are no figures for flu deaths available. Just not there. All these current deaths being are from a virus and not specific.
the economic crash is being engineered and governments hijacked by the forces of black government the corporate owners of central banks. They are moving on from'Global Warming' and the like.
Income is stopping across Europe. People held down under 'armed forces, of police and now the armies. It is such a hysteria the in the next move all private movement will be stopped , as in Italy, Spain. France is going down too, we will follow. This has stopped the populist uprisings likr the Catalans ,the gilet jeune and any other s that might appear. Bullets will soon follow if the viral panic fails.
Do you think your pensions will support you. Not when the companies that give them to you, collapse.
Do you think the'Government' are really going to give out trillions in support? Not likely they might print more worthless notes and pretend. Your income is gone from now. If your business or pension is your Support? Crashes and bankruptcies to major companies and private business.
Your major income is going very soon, your freedoms are going soon, prepare for it.
The New World Order is entering the final phase and has been triggered, politicians are only puppets of the financial Elite. To quote 'I care not, of which King sits on a Throne, the ones that hold the money Holds the power.' To quote a Rothschild forebear. THE GREAT RESET is happening.
Watch the media hysterics until the individuals in it , realise too and stop their rantings.
I say no more now, and will say no more again, you will see very soon if I am correct, regardless of what you can or cannot believe to be the truth and the case. Civil unrest WILL follow an that is why the Army is being deployed, for when the population realise what has happened, too late.

I wonder whether you will have the balls to apologise to those of us still around in a few months time. I think I will bookmark this one to check.

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