Timing belt

[bigtwin]

But not any more, they've seen the light and the new engine is timing chain.

The Ducati program on a week or so ago, the designer said they moved to timing belt purely to reduce cost, 'nuff said.

But I've owned gear driven cams, now that is engineering.

You’re too sharp!

Ian

 

[bigtwin]

But I've owned gear driven cams, now that is engineering.

VFR?

Ian

 

[hilldweller]

Like the old Essex Vs?

No. Like the old Honda VFR750.

 

[hilldweller]

VFR?
Ian

The last of the carb 750s. A glorious bike.Took two of us all over Europe. But once we got the MH it was not so good on local, often single track roads, so I downsized. Good move, my mileage greatly increased.

But I still reckon that was my best ever bike.

 

[Jaws]

When we had our first one on our FIAT 2l they showed me the timing belt, like new. Then they showed my the tentioner pulley, it was near to collapse. So that was money well spent.

I take my hat off to you DIY, I looked, could hardly get a hand near, saw the instructions for special tensioning tool and decided it would be money well spent supporting local industry, nice guys, motorhome owners and bikers, even racing them.

I replaced the lot.. Belt, idler and water pump

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[Tea Bag]

( cos paranoia set in ! )

Hi
"NO!!" Its because your sphincter muscles had signaled the start of..."Half a crown Sixpence syndrome"..
Tea Bag

 

[mitzimad]

10 k miles !!!
More like 100 k miles and most will do a lot more

Well spotted hawk eye
yes it should have said 100k

 

[Janiemou]

Having dug a little deeper, it seems that there are at least three combinations of timing systems on a boxer. Our engine is a 2.2l TDi at 110 BHP Euro 5. The model year in the VIN code is '1', but not sure what that means. The vehicle was bought from Elddis in 2014. This issue seems to raise more questions: when was the engine manufactured and does it have a chain or a belt?

 

[mfw]

Having dug a little deeper, it seems that there are at least three combinations of timing systems on a boxer. Our engine is a 2.2l TDi at 110 BHP Euro 5. The model year in the VIN code is '1', but not sure what that means. The vehicle was bought from Elddis in 2014. This issue seems to raise more questions: when was the engine manufactured and does it have a chain or a belt?

See if it has a plastic cover for a belt on the engine end that may answer your question

 

[dave newell]

Having dug a little deeper, it seems that there are at least three combinations of timing systems on a boxer. Our engine is a 2.2l TDi at 110 BHP Euro 5. The model year in the VIN code is '1', but not sure what that means. The vehicle was bought from Elddis in 2014. This issue seems to raise more questions: when was the engine manufactured and does it have a chain or a belt?

2014 vehicle should have the puma engine which is chain driven .

D.

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[jtp890]

What would it be if pre 2014, as we all know how long they can sit in storage , prior to conversion.
Jim
ps found out by default the 2.5 Renault 120bhp is chain driven, tensoner needed changing though.
Just sold it back to the guy I bought it from 4.5 years ago, he didn,t like the newer layouts.

 

[mitzimad]

ive got a 2.5 renault and it definitely has a belt and a chain

 

[tick59]

Photos of my engine

 

[tick59]

Ware did all those photos come from I only posted Three ???????

 

[simsy56]

ive got a 2.5 renault and it definitely has a belt and a chain

Craig

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[hilldweller]

Ware did all those photos come from I only posted Three ???????

You may be able to go back, edit, and delete some. I see the plastic timing belt cover.

 

[dave newell]

Ware did all those photos come from I only posted Three ???????

That is the older Peugeot lump which has a belt driven cam. The good news is it's one of the easier ones to change and the belt doesn't drive the water pump so that doesn't need to be changed as a routine item.

D.

 

[ivorantony]

ive got a 2.5 renault and it definitely has a belt and a chain

Sorry but doesn’t mean much to anyone,

Renault have fitted many types of 2500 cc engines over the years, the majority with timing belts and a few with Nissan engines with chains,
The only way to be certain what you have is a engine number and year

Mine is a G9UB 632. This is a 2500 cc 146 HP timing belt engine 2008 year
With a direct drive water pump off the exhaust camshaft
I am now on my third belt kit after 10 years ownership, previous belts have be in good condition on removal but Adjuster and jockey wheel had slight bearing movement, so worth replacing IMO

 

[mfw]

That is the beauty of photos clearly shows timing belt cover

 

[Janiemou]

I can't be sure that there is a timing belt cover on our engine - is there any definitive way of identifying which of the Peugeot engines we have?

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[jockaneezer]

I can't be sure that there is a timing belt cover on our engine - is there any definitive way of identifying which of the Peugeot engines we have?

Could you take a pic of your engine and post it on here like @tick59 did ?
(The timing belt cover is the long black plastic thing, running from top to bottom, just beneath where that pipe turns from black rubber to silver metal in the middle photograph.)

 

[ivorantony]

I can't be sure that there is a timing belt cover on our engine - is there any definitive way of identifying which of the Peugeot engines we have?

Engine number!! And year will be all you need, The number is stamped on the block usually and sometimes below the VIN/ Chassis number on you identification plate and possibly on the log book,

 

[Hilewaychile]

Not a sad reflection at all. Not everyone is interested in oily clothes and socket sets. I’m not remotely interested in lifting bonnets. Very few need lifting theses days anyway. As long as I know which fuel to put in I’m happy to be clueless about the rest.

There is, as usual, a wise and ancient Chinese saying to address the above. "It is better to know than not to know".

Of all the things to know about the engine of your vehicle, how the timing is driven - belt or chain - is, I believe, the most important. Unlike other bits wearing out - big/small ends, piston rings - there is no advanced notice. A loud bang, followed by a lot of rattling, is not the time to find out anything - except perhaps whether you have £6k-8k available for a new engine.

 

[Jim]

There is, as usual, a wise and ancient Chinese saying to address the above. "It is better to know than not to know".

I'd disagree with that saying. There are lots of things I'd rather not know.

Re engines...Given the vast things in life that interest me i cant think of a single one of which I'd rather give up doing, to invest the time to learn about engines. Its what service schedules are for.

 

[bigtwin]

Re engines...Given the vast things in life that interest me i cant think of a single one of which I'd rather give up doing, to invest the time to learn about engines. Its what service schedules are for.

And breakdown services!

Ian

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[Lawrencep]

Stick to the manufacturer's guidance unless you're prepared to inspect the timing chain on a regular basis. Unless I am mistaken, if you're going to do that, then you might as well change the chain. I know they build in huge safety margins but yours might be the one in thousands that wasn't quite up to spec. Who are you going to blame if the engine goes BANG because the chain broke! I know what I'd do but it depends how well you sleep.

 

[Jim]

And breakdown services!

Ian

So I stick to my service shedules but because i don't know about the intricacies of small ends, i'm more likely to need a breakdown service? Nah don't think so.

 

[mfw]

If you start getting rattles or knocking on engine you can always put earplugs in and wait for inevitable failure of something

 

[Jim]

If you start getting rattles or knocking on engine you can always put earplugs in and wait for inevitable failure of something

Oh I really wish I was interested in knowing the difference between knocks and engine rattles and what they might mean. But on hearing them I'd rather just take it to someone who does it for a living.

 

[bigtwin]

So I stick to my service shedules but because i don't know about the intricacies of small ends, i'm more likely to need a breakdown service? Nah don't think so.

No, you misunderstood. Servicing to schedule and having breakdown cover in place gives you complete peace of mind.

Ian

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