The IKEA camperstop Murcia

I actually stayed there for one night last year and did shop and eat in the Mall, it was okay and a quiet night and served a purpose because of its convenience when travelling.

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Amazing video, but what an awful place to while away the winter - it’s just a huge transit camp! All it needs is a few more dogs and abandoned vehicles. I’ve never done the snow bird thing, Spanish mainland winters aren’t warm enough to seduce me. However, with videos like that and all the tales of crowding this year, I don’t think I’ve missed much! I think I’ll stick with my spring & autumn touring. Surely the locals must be completely pissed off with it all? It can’t have much of a future surely?
 
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This is echoed in other areas, such as the car park at La Zenia Boulevard near Torrevieja - we were at Leroy Merlin and I counted over 50 units with x4 types of street food cafes set up to service the lot and wider public.....

In addition, Tanya tells me (with her Spanish Estate agent head on) that the 18km of tram network at 2 euros a pop provides great infrastructure to go sight seeing...👍🏼

Horse for courses and these places will continue to flourish until a tippong point of tolerance, but until then .....
 
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Littlewheels said:
This is an interesting video that asks a few questions on Motor-homing and Motorhome use.

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This, to us is the stuff nightmares are made of, I honestly can't fathom why anyone would own a moho, then spend months or even weeks at a place like this..
 
Tanya_and_Mick said:
This is echoed in other areas, such as the car park at La Zenia Boulevard near Torrevieja - we were at Leroy Merlin and I counted over 50 units with x4 types of street food cafes set up to service the lot and wider public.....

In addition, Tanya tells me (with her Spanish Estate agent head on) that the 18km of tram network at 2 euros a pop provides great infrastructure to go sight seeing...👍🏼

Horse for courses and these places will continue to flourish until a tippong point of tolerance, but until then .....
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The abundance of Motorhomes from throughout the EU and afar will continue to grow and head for the Costas the Campsites cannot cope and many resist short stay bookings which doesn’t fit the idea of Motorhome touring,eventually they will have to react to the shear numbers and add greatly to the number of Camperstops,this will be the only way to stop so called wild camping in built up areas.

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I think it serves a purpose...staying more than a night or 2 seems odd to me but id stay there no problem. Maybe a few euros charge could be applied even


I stayed at little roodee at Chester last night..and commented on the most vans I've ever seen there in the "off" season when no events on.....55 vans..
 
peterc10 said:
Horses for courses. We would happily stay for a couple of nights so we can use the tram to explore the City. Makes it simple.
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There’s a big difference between a couple of nights for sightseeing and staying for weeks or months. Pre Covid we stayed at the Ikea just outside Reims. There’s a free shuttle bus from the City to IKEA and return. Stayed overnight and we were the only ones there. On another thread there are dire warnings in Spain of having your step out or a window open and measuring your cab mirrors. Whereas you seem to be able to do the full camping experience on the Ikea car park. I’ve yet to see a manufacturers glossy brochure with an IKEA or whatever carpark as an aspirational stopping place. Oh and we had meatballs.
 
Barryh said:
There’s a big difference between a couple of nights for sightseeing and staying for weeks or months. Pre Covid we stayed at the Ikea just outside Reims. There’s a free shuttle bus from the City to IKEA and return. Stayed overnight and we were the only ones there. On another thread there are dire warnings in Spain of having your step out or a window open and measuring your cab mirrors. Whereas you seem to be able to do the full camping experience on the Ikea car park. I’ve yet to see a manufacturers glossy brochure with an IKEA or whatever carpark as an aspirational stopping place. Oh and we had meatballs.
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Having successfully diversified into food some years ago, maybe IKEA ought to get into MH sites? Charge them all and lay on more facilities. If folks are happy enough to stay long-term on an urban car park, 40 miles from the coast, then anything is possible? 🤷‍♂️
 
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I guess there are differing perspectives of motorhoming across the generations and new/legacy motorhome users.

One thing for sure, if a cost is endorsed, the environment and type of users/consumers rapidly change.

18-30, walking the countryside, partying in Benidorm is a yuk or yeah for some.

One thing for sure is change - remember how the club sites used to be and cost, CL prices 5-10 years ago and touring Europe……it is a brave new world for some; and head in hands for others.

Aires are becoming Camper Car Parks, Pandemic born Motorhome users - are they a different breed.

Germans, Dutch and Belgians, in conjunction with the Scanddies, certainly in our area of Spain , they are driving the spend for housing to parked up Mohos.

Is the end nigh…..nah, motorhomers of the 70s, 80s, 90s, did they not scoff at the use of new technology and how people were using there motorhomes?

I wonder where things will be in 10 years - hopefully we are still sneaking around in our PVC saying: do you remember when……

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The video is a bit misleading. None of that which is shown is IKEA parking. when viewed from the drone footage all the lower part is the motorhome parking area. .about 80>100 units it holds. IKEA Is too the right over the road & to the right of the motorhome travelling away from you.
It is ideal for access to both shopping malls. The Thader centre which it is next to, & the Nueva Condiminia over the other side of the A7 either in walking distance or use the tram. The tram stop is about 500m away & you can travel all over for a 1,40€ ticket.
 
Only stopped there for servicing and a quick Aldi shop now if I'd known about the tram we would have happily stopped for a couple or nights. Not a bad Aire plenty of space.
We rarely stop anywhere for more than a night or two if you are going to stop for weeks at a time might as well have a caravan.
 
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jongood said:
I think we should do more of that in UK, there are plenty of underused carparks, especially at nights. I do think they need a time limit though.
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I'm sure the UK could consider such plans...however do people from Northern European Countries come to Spain for what we see in the Video....has the Sun, Sea and Sangria bubble disappeared only to be replaced with life on the Tarmac...
Escaping the cold and soaring energy costs may contribute I imagine...So Sad to consider staying there for weeks on end...however while the are all there, it leaves the beautiful Spanish countryside uncluttered...
 
jumar said:
I'm sure the UK could consider such plans...however do people from Northern European Countries come to Spain for what we see in the Video....has the Sun, Sea and Sangria bubble disappeared only to be replaced with life on the Tarmac...
Escaping the cold and soaring energy costs may contribute I imagine...So Sad to consider staying there for weeks on end...however while the are all there, it leaves the beautiful Spanish countryside uncluttered...
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I think thats why they need a time limit or even better a pay and display or P+R. Weeks is ridiculous IMO
 
Lenny HB said:
now if I'd known about the tram we would have happily stopped for a couple or nights.
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Wonderful system. 1,40€ for any distance but I think the ticket has a 'use by' of one hour then you need another. every 8 minutes one end it starts at the Nueva Condiminia then over to Thader centre & then loads of stops all the way to city centre then out westwards to the UCaM site.(University)
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I think thats why they need a time limit
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I'm sure it is 48 hours at the Murcia one? No just looked & it is 72hours,
 
gus-lopez said:
The video is a bit misleading. None of that which is shown is IKEA parking. when viewed from the drone footage all the lower part is the motorhome parking area. .about 80>100 units it holds. IKEA Is too the right over the road & to the right of the motorhome travelling away from you.
It is ideal for access to both shopping malls. The Thader centre which it is next to, & the Nueva Condiminia over the other side of the A7 either in walking distance or use the tram. The tram stop is about 500m away & you can travel all over for a 1,40€ ticket.
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We've overnighted there many times. Handy for the lovely city of Murcia

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Brendan + Kath said:
We've overnighted there many times. Handy for the lovely city of Murcia
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Very handy indeed...but would you really want to spend the whole winter there, well some are.
We are away from home just now in Archena, good area for cycling and walking...the same vans are still here 3 months on, doing the whole winter on the Tarmac carpark....
These folk are not young vanlifers, they are like us... pensioner age....but they are doing the winter for free...sitting next to the van..overstaying the 72 hour limit a little...🇪🇦👍🥳🥳🥳😃
 
Lovely day here in Archena...just completed our ride which was fantastic....the neighbours are spreading out a little...is this Parking, Camping or moving in for the winter...this is a public car park with 72 hour motorhome Parking....they were here last year too as we past by for 24 hours..,,🤔🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
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We were there on Monday night and frankly shocked to see the other non-official carpark so full as well as the "approved" one. This has always been a convenient staging point on our way to our Spanish house, but I feel that soon, the powers that be will be closing possibly both sites down due to over use. The locals, businesses especially do benefit, but also when the Ikea car park is full, the problem with parking in the overspill carpark may lead to issues. We have never seen this parking so full, and will now look elsewhere in the future. Shame really, as a good stop ruined.
 
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We were there on Monday night and frankly shocked to see the other non-official carpark so full as well as the "approved" one. This has always been a convenient staging point on our way to our Spanish house, but I feel that soon, the powers that be will be closing possibly both sites down due to over use. The locals, businesses especially do benefit, but also when the Ikea car park is full, the problem with parking in the overspill carpark may lead to issues. We have never seen this parking so full, and will now look elsewhere in the future. Shame really, as a good stop ruined.
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It suprises me too that this can be allowed in a Spanish major city....I suppose an easy option would be to erect height barriers on the area designated for cars only...a physical deterrent is the only way, because motorhomers from Northern Europe are not blessed with the ability to read, even if it's written in their own language or pictorial symbols...🙄😄😄
 
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It suprises me too that this can be allowed in a Spanish major city....I suppose an easy option would be to erect height barriers on the area designated for cars only...a physical deterrent is the only way, because motorhomers from Northern Europe are not blessed with the ability to read, even if it's written in their own language or pictorial symbols...🙄😄😄
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Maybe a more subtle approach is required?
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