Summer, Winter, or 4 Season tyres.

[DDJC]

Fundamentally, what are the differences between the three types of tyre? I am asking because the cautious in me suggests that I need 4 season for the possibility that I might want to do more wintery motorhoming. Yet, summer tyres seem to offer less rolling resistance and better rain performance.

I know that in some parts of Europe, they insist on winter or 4 season tyres, but what is the difference? Is it wear? Better rubber? More ply? Price? Longevity? Resistance to side wall punctures? Ability to cope with higher 'hot' tyre temps? What are the performance issues if using summer tyres in frosty January UK roads?

 

[funflair]

Summer tyres will have more rubber and less blocks than winter, they will have a rubber compound that is better at higher temperatures, winter tyres will have little cuts in the blocks known as sipes these give better grip on snow, the rubber compound will stay softer at lower temperatures but will wear faster and not be as economical, 4 seasons will be a good compromise in the middle ground.

 

[bigtree]

I’m in a quandary over going summer or all season tyres, I’m leaning towards all season just to cover me for early or late in the season for France and Germany. We want to do Greece one early spring, so need to transit Germany.
I did like the Nexen Roadian’s that I had on my previous van which are summer tyres , I’m looking at Nankang AW8 all season tyres at present.

 

[funflair]

I’m in a quandary over going summer or all season tyres, I’m leaning towards all season just to cover me for early or late in the season for France and Germany. We want to do Greece one early spring, so need to transit Germany.

That sort of sums it up really

 

[Bessy765]

We had Michelin Camping Car on our 4500 kg Burstner when we bought it new in 2019. Found the ride hard and felt every bump. Have changed to Michelin all season much better ride and having covered over 12,000 miles so far seem to be wearing very well. If anything a better grip on steep inclines.

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[Soycd]

It's worth noting that from September 2024, in Germany, M+S tyres will no longer be accepted as 'winter tyres' so if you are unlucky and get pulled over in snowy conditions after that date, with M+S tyres you will be fined. Tyres will need to have the '3 peaks symbol' Worse still if you are involved in an accident then you can become liable, insurance wise.
A lot of Germans will have a set of summer and a set of winter tyres. The local tyre suppliers usually provide (at a cost) a storage facility for each set when not in use. The winter tyres are usually mounted on a pair of cheap rims to avoid having to change the tyres rather than just the wheel.
We have M+S tyres on our van, so will need to have a think about what to do after September 2024 when travelling in Germany.

 

[DDJC]

I’m in a quandary over going summer or all season tyres, I’m leaning towards all season just to cover me for early or late in the season for France and Germany. We want to do Greece one early spring, so need to transit Germany.
I did like the Nexen Roadian’s that I had on my previous van which are summer tyres , I’m looking at Nankang AW8 all season tyres at present.

I'm the same. All season adds flexibility. I am looking at five years life in my next set of tyres, by which time I will have retired and motorhome trips will be longer and at different times of the year.

My reason for asking is that I am currently on all-season VancoConti Camper 215/R15 70. Looking to go to 225/R15 70. For me the choice is whether to go for the Continental Van Contact 100 Eco which is a summer tyre, rated A for rolling resistance and A for wet weather grip. The best 4-season choice is between the Bridgestone Duravais, the Michelin Agilis Cross climate and the Pirelli Carrier 4 season, all rated A for wet and C for resistance. I have Bridgestone on my car and am leaning towards them for the bus as well.

So am I right in assuming that (loosely), summer tyres are better and longer lasting, but 4 season are more flexible if you want to travel in colder climes?

 

[Googlebot]

I wouldn’t worry about long lasting, they will all probably last 5 years on a Motorhome.

Beware of the Michelin though, I ended up changing them after 4 years due to them cracking. Not impressed at £200 a corner.

Performance wise, I drive a BMW X5 at work as a response vehicle. It does over 70k miles a year and we go all over the region at speed. I have found the all season tyres just as good as the initial summer ones it came with.

I settle myself that if I can’t tell the difference in grip on a blue light run in a performance car, the Motorhome will be happy with whatever.

 

[EuroTrotters]

I run Our Motorhome on Michelin Alpin Winter. It is the 3rd Motorhome I have fitted them to. My Sprinter van had them but I am trying Toyo Observe Winters at the Moment https://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/foru...-switching-from-michelin-agilis-alpin.233872/

Our 4x4 and AWD cars I have All-Season, The AWD has All-Season with 3 Peaks winter Symbol Vredstein Quatrac Pro. My 4x4 doesn't have the winter symbol as they are the Older Pirelli All-Season.

My Spanish car is running on Michelin X Cross Climates. They started to crack after 12 months. They have only covered around 8,000 Miles.

I don't run anything on Summer Tyres

 

[DDJC]

It's worth noting that from September 2024, in Germany, M+S tyres will no longer be accepted as 'winter tyres' so if you are unlucky and get pulled over in snowy conditions after that date, with M+S tyres you will be fined. Tyres will need to have the '3 peaks symbol' Worse still if you are involved in an accident then you can become liable, insurance wise.
A lot of Germans will have a set of summer and a set of winter tyres. The local tyre suppliers usually provide (at a cost) a storage facility for each set when not in use. The winter tyres are usually mounted on a pair of cheap rims to avoid having to change the tyres rather than just the wheel.
We have M+S tyres on our van, so will need to have a think about what to do after September 2024 when travelling in Germany.

Do all-season tyres have the three peaks symbol on them, or is it just winter tyres?

The term 'Mud and Snow Tyres' has no meaning for the type. Any tyre manufacturer can market a tyre as 'M+S', even if not a winter tyre I thought that the winter tyre symbol was a snowflake❄. Will Germany accept the snowflake, or is it something that they are doing unilaterally?

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[bigtree]

I'm the same. All season adds flexibility. I am looking at five years life in my next set of tyres, by which time I will have retired and motorhome trips will be longer and at different times of the year.

My reason for asking is that I am currently on all-season VancoConti Camper 215/R15 70. Looking to go to 225/R15 70. For me the choice is whether to go for the Continental Van Contact 100 Eco which is a summer tyre, rated A for rolling resistance and A for wet weather grip. The best 4-season choice is between the Bridgestone Duravais, the Michelin Agilis Cross climate and the Pirelli Carrier 4 season, all rated A for wet and C for resistance. I have Bridgestone on my car and am leaning towards them for the bus as well.

So am I right in assuming that (loosely), summer tyres are better and longer lasting, but 4 season are more flexible if you want to travel in colder climes?

Yes, don’t discount cheaper summer tyres, the Nexen Roadian is a superb tyre and I’m not the only one that recommends them.

 

[Lenny HB]

It's worth noting that from September 2024, in Germany, M+S tyres will no longer be accepted as 'winter tyres' s

That only applied if the tyres were manufactured before a certain date I think it was January 2019.

Do all-season tyres have the three peaks symbol on them, or is it just winter tyres?

Some do some don't.
E. g. Conti Vanco Four Season and Conti Vanco 4 Season, one has the three peaks & one doesn't, can't remember which is which.

 

[Lenny HB]

I've been running Toyo Observe Van for a couple of years which replaced the Michelins CP's
Much better ride comfort, handling & grip better. Feel more secure in the wet no problems in hot weather.
Wear rate higher on the front but lower on the rear, that surprised me.
60 quid cheaper than a CP tyre.

 

[funflair]

That only applied if the tyres were manufactured before a certain date I think it was January 2019.

Some do some don't.
E. g. Conti Vanco Four Season and Conti Vanco 4 Season, one has the three peaks & one doesn't, can't remember which is which.

Continental Vancofourseasons 2 has the 3PMSF symbol for sure and is standard fit on MORELO Concorde PhoeniX etc.

 

[BikerGraham]

Continental Vancofourseasons 2 has the 3PMSF symbol for sure and is standard fit on MORELO Concorde PhoeniX etc.

Same with the Michelin cross climate campers.

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[DDJC]

Yes, don’t discount cheaper summer tyres, the Nexen Roadian is a superb tyre and I’m not the only one that recommends them.

I'm not stupid enough to spend more than I have to based purely on a brand! I don't wear branded clothes, so why put on tyres because they are well known!
I have done lots of research into my next set of tyres, knowing that it may cost north of seven hundred quid for five. Here is my comparison. No tyres are included that are less than 'C' rating in the rain. I love my family!!

Make

Tyre Name

Spec

Season

Dedicated Camper tyre

Speed

Load Index

Weight per Tyre

Weight per axle

Fuel

Wet

Noise

Speed MPH

Bridgestone

Duravais All season

225/70 R15 112 S

4 Season

Van

S

112​

1120​

2240​

C

A

72

112

Continental

Van Contact 100 Eco

225/70 R15 112 R

Summer

Van

R

112​

1120​

2240​

A

A

72

106

Continental

Van Contact 100

225/70 R15 112 R

Summer

Van

R

112​

1120​

2240​

B

B

72

106

Continental

VanContact 4Season

225/70 R15 112 R

4 Season

Van

R

112​

1120​

2240​

E

B

72

106

Falken

Linam VAN01

225/70 R15 112 S

Summer

Van

S

112​

1120​

2240​

C

A

72

112

Firestone

Vanhawk 2

225/70 R15 112 S

Summer

Van

S

112​

1120​

2240​

C

B

71

112

Firestone

Vanhawk multiseason

225/70 R15 112 S

4 Season

Van

S

112​

1120​

2240​

C

B

73

112

Goodyear

Vector 4 Season Cargo

225/70 R15 112 R

4 Season

Van

R

112​

1120​

2240​

C

B

73

106

Goodyear

Efficientgrip Cargo2

225/70 R15 112 S

Summer

Van

S

112​

1120​

2240​

C

B

73

112

Hankook

Vantra ST AS2

225/70 R15 112 R

4 Season

Van

R

112​

1120​

2240​

D

C

73

106

Hankook

Vantra LT RA18

225/70 R15 112 S

Summer

Van

S

112​

1120​

2240​

D

C

70

112

Michelin

Agilis Cross climate

225/70 R15 112 R

4 Season

Van

R

112​

1120​

2240​

C

A

73

106

Michelin

Agilis Cross climate

225/70 R15 112 S

4 Season

Van

S

112​

1120​

2240​

C

A

73

112

Michelin

Agilis Camping Green X

225/70 R15 112 Q

Summer

Camper

Q

112​

1120​

2240​

C

B

70

100

Petlas

Full Power PT825

225/70 R15 116 R

Summer

Van

R

116​

1250​

2500​

E

A

72

106

Pirelli

Carrier 4 season

225/70 R15 112 S

4 Season

Van

S

112​

1120​

2240​

C

A

71

112

Pirelli

Carrier

225/70 R15 112 S

Summer

Van

S

112​

1120​

2240​

C

A

71

112

Radar

Argonite RV-4

225/70 R15 116 N

Summer

Van

N

116​

1250​

2500​

C

B

72

87

STARMAXX

Provan ST850 Plus

225/70 R15 116/114 N

Summer

Van

N

114​

1180​

2360​

E

A

72

87

Toyo

Nanoenergy Van

225/70 R15 112 S

Summer

Van

S

112​

1120​

2240​

C

C

70

112

Toyo

Observe Van

225/70 R15 112 S

4 Season

Van

S

112​

1120​

2240​

D

C

72

112

Uniroyal

AllseasonMax

225/70 R15 112 R

4 Season

Van

R

112​

1120​

2240​

C

A

73

106

Uniroyal

Rain Max 3

225/70 R15 112 R

Summer

Van

R

112​

1120​

2240​

C

B

72

106

Yokohama

BluEarth Van All season

225/70 R15 112 R

4 Season

Van

R

112​

1120​

2240​

C

B

73

106

Yokohama

BluEarth VanRY55

225/70 R15 112 R

Summer

Van

R

112​

1120​

2240​

C

B

71

106

Nexen

Roadian

225/70 R15 112 R

Summer

Van

T

112​

1120​

2240​

C

B

71

118

I couldn't find any all-season 225/70 R15 tyres that have a load index better than 112. The ones in the table above are all summer only.
So, for all season tyres, it has to be Bridgestone, Mich or Conti. Not a Mich fan, and already wearing Conti Vancos, so for me it is Bridgestone.

Unless anyone knows of an all-weather, 8ply, 225/70 R15, with a load index of 112 (or better) tyre that scores A in the wet and A or B for rolling resistance ...??!!

 

[funflair]

Same with the Michelin cross climate campers.

No good for heavy vans though as they don't do 121 load rating.

 

[DDJC]

That only applied if the tyres were manufactured before a certain date I think it was January 2019.

Some do some don't.
E. g. Conti Vanco Four Season and Conti Vanco 4 Season, one has the three peaks & one doesn't, can't remember which is which.

Cheers Lenny, but will the Germans accept snowflakes (no jokes) or are they insisting that in Germany you must have three hills?
And what have hills got to do with winter? It snows on plateaus and plains as well!!

 

[funflair]

Cheers Lenny, but will the Germans accept snowflakes (no jokes) or are they insisting that in Germany you must have three hills?
And what have hills got to do with winter? It snows on plateaus and plains as well!!

I have not seen snowflake without the 3 peak mountain

 

[Soycd]

Do all-season tyres have the three peaks symbol on them, or is it just winter tyres?

The term 'Mud and Snow Tyres' has no meaning for the type. Any tyre manufacturer can market a tyre as 'M+S', even if not a winter tyre I thought that the winter tyre symbol was a snowflake❄. Will Germany accept the snowflake, or is it something that they are doing unilaterally?

I'm not sure if this answers your question but our 'winter' tyres on our Skoda Octavia have M+S and the 3 peaks(with snowflake inside) symbol. We needed new tyres last October and as we were planning on using the car over the next few years for a Christmas trip I went for winter tyres. Probably could have just got M+S, but there you go. It is all very confusing! The links below all provide some information but it's still not crystal clear.

Winter tyres

Drivers of cars and motorbikes are required to have their cars fitted with winter tyres when driving in slushy, snowy or icy conditions. Failure to do so can incur a fine of 40 Eur and one point on…

uk.diplo.de

Snow Tires and Winter Driving in Germany – The German Way & More

www.german-way.com

When are winter tyres compulsory in Germany? | ACSI Eurocampings Blog

There are new regulations from 1 January 2018 for using winter tyres in Germany. Read this article to make sure your car complies with them!

www.eurocampings.co.uk

In terms of a unilateral approach across Europe, that would probably never happen as it really depends on how likely motorists are to come across snow/ice conditions.

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[eurajohn]

These any good for you

 

[Lenny HB]

Cheers Lenny, but will the Germans accept snowflakes (no jokes) or are they insisting that in Germany you must have three hills?
And what have hills got to do with winter? It snows on plateaus and plains as well!!

The snowflake symbol was the old winter symbol if you have it on your tyres they must be antiques.

 

[bigtree]

I'm not stupid enough to spend more than I have to based purely on a brand! I don't wear branded clothes, so why put on tyres because they are well known!
I have done lots of research into my next set of tyres, knowing that it may cost north of seven hundred quid for five. Here is my comparison. No tyres are included that are less than 'C' rating in the rain. I love my family!!

Make

Tyre Name

Spec

Season

Dedicated Camper tyre

Speed

Load Index

Weight per Tyre

Weight per axle

Fuel

Wet

Noise

Speed MPH

Bridgestone

Duravais All season

225/70 R15 112 S

4 Season

Van

S

112​

1120​

2240​

C

A

72

112

Continental

Van Contact 100 Eco

225/70 R15 112 R

Summer

Van

R

112​

1120​

2240​

A

A

72

106

Continental

Van Contact 100

225/70 R15 112 R

Summer

Van

R

112​

1120​

2240​

B

B

72

106

Continental

VanContact 4Season

225/70 R15 112 R

4 Season

Van

R

112​

1120​

2240​

E

B

72

106

Falken

Linam VAN01

225/70 R15 112 S

Summer

Van

S

112​

1120​

2240​

C

A

72

112

Firestone

Vanhawk 2

225/70 R15 112 S

Summer

Van

S

112​

1120​

2240​

C

B

71

112

Firestone

Vanhawk multiseason

225/70 R15 112 S

4 Season

Van

S

112​

1120​

2240​

C

B

73

112

Goodyear

Vector 4 Season Cargo

225/70 R15 112 R

4 Season

Van

R

112​

1120​

2240​

C

B

73

106

Goodyear

Efficientgrip Cargo2

225/70 R15 112 S

Summer

Van

S

112​

1120​

2240​

C

B

73

112

Hankook

Vantra ST AS2

225/70 R15 112 R

4 Season

Van

R

112​

1120​

2240​

D

C

73

106

Hankook

Vantra LT RA18

225/70 R15 112 S

Summer

Van

S

112​

1120​

2240​

D

C

70

112

Michelin

Agilis Cross climate

225/70 R15 112 R

4 Season

Van

R

112​

1120​

2240​

C

A

73

106

Michelin

Agilis Cross climate

225/70 R15 112 S

4 Season

Van

S

112​

1120​

2240​

C

A

73

112

Michelin

Agilis Camping Green X

225/70 R15 112 Q

Summer

Camper

Q

112​

1120​

2240​

C

B

70

100

Petlas

Full Power PT825

225/70 R15 116 R

Summer

Van

R

116​

1250​

2500​

E

A

72

106

Pirelli

Carrier 4 season

225/70 R15 112 S

4 Season

Van

S

112​

1120​

2240​

C

A

71

112

Pirelli

Carrier

225/70 R15 112 S

Summer

Van

S

112​

1120​

2240​

C

A

71

112

Radar

Argonite RV-4

225/70 R15 116 N

Summer

Van

N

116​

1250​

2500​

C

B

72

87

STARMAXX

Provan ST850 Plus

225/70 R15 116/114 N

Summer

Van

N

114​

1180​

2360​

E

A

72

87

Toyo

Nanoenergy Van

225/70 R15 112 S

Summer

Van

S

112​

1120​

2240​

C

C

70

112

Toyo

Observe Van

225/70 R15 112 S

4 Season

Van

S

112​

1120​

2240​

D

C

72

112

Uniroyal

AllseasonMax

225/70 R15 112 R

4 Season

Van

R

112​

1120​

2240​

C

A

73

106

Uniroyal

Rain Max 3

225/70 R15 112 R

Summer

Van

R

112​

1120​

2240​

C

B

72

106

Yokohama

BluEarth Van All season

225/70 R15 112 R

4 Season

Van

R

112​

1120​

2240​

C

B

73

106

Yokohama

BluEarth VanRY55

225/70 R15 112 R

Summer

Van

R

112​

1120​

2240​

C

B

71

106

Nexen

Roadian

225/70 R15 112 R

Summer

Van

T

112​

1120​

2240​

C

B

71

118

I couldn't find any all-season 225/70 R15 tyres that have a load index better than 112. The ones in the table above are all summer only.
So, for all season tyres, it has to be Bridgestone, Mich or Conti. Not a Mich fan, and already wearing Conti Vancos, so for me it is Bridgestone.

Unless anyone knows of an all-weather, 8ply, 225/70 R15, with a load index of 112 (or better) tyre that scores A in the wet and A or B for rolling resistance ...??!!

I’ve not looked at other sizes outwith my criteria but as I said earlier I’m more than likely going for the Nankang AW8’s , I’ve bought the top brands before and not been impressed. Don’t get me wrong, on my motorbike it’s Michelin’s.
The Nankang’s are rated 121 which I need.

 

[BikerGraham]

I'm not stupid enough to spend more than I have to based purely on a brand! I don't wear branded clothes, so why put on tyres because they are well known!
I have done lots of research into my next set of tyres, knowing that it may cost north of seven hundred quid for five. Here is my comparison. No tyres are included that are less than 'C' rating in the rain. I love my family!!

Make

Tyre Name

Spec

Season

Dedicated Camper tyre

Speed

Load Index

Weight per Tyre

Weight per axle

Fuel

Wet

Noise

Speed MPH

Bridgestone

Duravais All season

225/70 R15 112 S

4 Season

Van

S

112​

1120​

2240​

C

A

72

112

Continental

Van Contact 100 Eco

225/70 R15 112 R

Summer

Van

R

112​

1120​

2240​

A

A

72

106

Continental

Van Contact 100

225/70 R15 112 R

Summer

Van

R

112​

1120​

2240​

B

B

72

106

Continental

VanContact 4Season

225/70 R15 112 R

4 Season

Van

R

112​

1120​

2240​

E

B

72

106

Falken

Linam VAN01

225/70 R15 112 S

Summer

Van

S

112​

1120​

2240​

C

A

72

112

Firestone

Vanhawk 2

225/70 R15 112 S

Summer

Van

S

112​

1120​

2240​

C

B

71

112

Firestone

Vanhawk multiseason

225/70 R15 112 S

4 Season

Van

S

112​

1120​

2240​

C

B

73

112

Goodyear

Vector 4 Season Cargo

225/70 R15 112 R

4 Season

Van

R

112​

1120​

2240​

C

B

73

106

Goodyear

Efficientgrip Cargo2

225/70 R15 112 S

Summer

Van

S

112​

1120​

2240​

C

B

73

112

Hankook

Vantra ST AS2

225/70 R15 112 R

4 Season

Van

R

112​

1120​

2240​

D

C

73

106

Hankook

Vantra LT RA18

225/70 R15 112 S

Summer

Van

S

112​

1120​

2240​

D

C

70

112

Michelin

Agilis Cross climate

225/70 R15 112 R

4 Season

Van

R

112​

1120​

2240​

C

A

73

106

Michelin

Agilis Cross climate

225/70 R15 112 S

4 Season

Van

S

112​

1120​

2240​

C

A

73

112

Michelin

Agilis Camping Green X

225/70 R15 112 Q

Summer

Camper

Q

112​

1120​

2240​

C

B

70

100

Petlas

Full Power PT825

225/70 R15 116 R

Summer

Van

R

116​

1250​

2500​

E

A

72

106

Pirelli

Carrier 4 season

225/70 R15 112 S

4 Season

Van

S

112​

1120​

2240​

C

A

71

112

Pirelli

Carrier

225/70 R15 112 S

Summer

Van

S

112​

1120​

2240​

C

A

71

112

Radar

Argonite RV-4

225/70 R15 116 N

Summer

Van

N

116​

1250​

2500​

C

B

72

87

STARMAXX

Provan ST850 Plus

225/70 R15 116/114 N

Summer

Van

N

114​

1180​

2360​

E

A

72

87

Toyo

Nanoenergy Van

225/70 R15 112 S

Summer

Van

S

112​

1120​

2240​

C

C

70

112

Toyo

Observe Van

225/70 R15 112 S

4 Season

Van

S

112​

1120​

2240​

D

C

72

112

Uniroyal

AllseasonMax

225/70 R15 112 R

4 Season

Van

R

112​

1120​

2240​

C

A

73

106

Uniroyal

Rain Max 3

225/70 R15 112 R

Summer

Van

R

112​

1120​

2240​

C

B

72

106

Yokohama

BluEarth Van All season

225/70 R15 112 R

4 Season

Van

R

112​

1120​

2240​

C

B

73

106

Yokohama

BluEarth VanRY55

225/70 R15 112 R

Summer

Van

R

112​

1120​

2240​

C

B

71

106

Nexen

Roadian

225/70 R15 112 R

Summer

Van

T

112​

1120​

2240​

C

B

71

118

I couldn't find any all-season 225/70 R15 tyres that have a load index better than 112. The ones in the table above are all summer only.
So, for all season tyres, it has to be Bridgestone, Mich or Conti. Not a Mich fan, and already wearing Conti Vancos, so for me it is Bridgestone.

Unless anyone knows of an all-weather, 8ply, 225/70 R15, with a load index of 112 (or better) tyre that scores A in the wet and A or B for rolling resistance ...??!!

Hi DDJC
I have just put the cross climate campers on and they feel a great deal better than the std agilis.
I was going to put 225 on instead of 215. But was advised against by the tyre fitter. No financial gain for him and his reasoning was ok with me.
Anyway I am in France and done about 800 miles since having them fitted and am happy with them. Cost £720 for the four of them.

Put some perspective. I am a biker, yes I know, and we are fanatical about our bike tyres. I won’t have anything other than Bridgestones on my bikes. In our minds it’s about confidence when banked over round a corner on the edge, at speed as much as switchbacks stability.

But am happy with cross climates campers. I also run them at the recommended pressures. All ok. One thing though is I adjust the cold temperatures of them when in hotter weather in France. They are 3 peaks also

 

[DDJC]

These any good for you

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Wet performance B.

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[dunnah01]

I've been running my Michelin Agilis CPs for nearly 3 years and 25k at 55/65 and they've been absolutely fine but don't tell anybody

 

[The Wino]

On the MH we just have summer tyres. We do however use cross climates on both cars as we live on the edge of the moors and it's easy to get caught out the conditions are often totally different within a mile of where we live. I've been happy with the cross climates and just replaced the fronts on one car after 45k miles the backs are still fine. On the MH we don't use it much in winter and had maxxis van tyres. The ride is a lot better than the previous continentals.

 

[JockandRita]

I have been running these All Season, 3PMSF marked 225/75/R16 C on our Iveco based Flair MH, for the last 3.5 years. with no problems. They do a 118 and a 121 rating, but only on 16" rims.

VAN TYRES

www.falkentyre.com

Cheers,

Jock.

 

[paddymcc]

I have Conti winter 2 tyres 225/70/15 with a load rating of 112R (they are also115N). I couldn't get the same load rating I think in the 4 season tyre and I read somewhere that winter tyres were now as good as all season. They might wear a bit faster but the mileage I do that's not going to be a problem. I wanted the option of using them in snow - they are 3 peaks. They have been very good and I haven't noticed a problem with slipping in the wet but to be honest I drive the motorhome as if it's carrying eggs (which it does).

 

[nickq]

I've just fitted Conti Vancontact Camper 225/75 R16 CP. They are 4 season and have the 3 peaks symbol.
Don't really care about rolling resistance, will make almost no difference to mpg when driving a brick.