Starter Battery replacement

[Dramfineday]

I am having battery issues with my 2018/19 Peugeot Boxer, so have decided to replace the Original 95 Amp Hr 680CCA with the Yuasa 100Amp Hr 900CCA. Was thinking about a bit of DIY, so before it becomes "Dram in Blunderland" the question is what's the correct methodology to remove and reinstall and what little traps do I need to be aware off e.g., radio codes?

 

[Figaro]

A funster recently posted this proceedure and I made a copy as it seemed extremely involved.
I must admit to replacing mine last year and it was very straight forward.
Edit : I don't have airbags and battery is in the engine bay

I can't remember who posted it, but here it is . . . . . . .

This is not a trivial thing to do. As previously stated you can easily bugger up ecus.

To avoid any problems with spiked or corrupted ECUs there are number of precautions to be taken. The SRS ECU (airbag), in particular, seems fairly prone to this and damage is often blamed on incorrect battery disconnection or jump starting procedures.
There are two options The first is the method i use for toping up the Battery with DI water. The second is Based on the official Peugeot Method . Peugeot refer to BSI (Body System Interface) Fiat BCM (Body control module)
If you have MES multiecuscan do a system scan to check for errors.

Physical access
Remove the cab carpet and there is the floor panel with coin turn fixings. A 50p piece is good tool, just half a turn on each.I find this easier to do with the door open, before touching the battery.


Method A
Fully charge a spare Battery.
Open drivers window.
Turn off ignition and remove the key and any diagnostic equipment or equipment being charged.
Open Bonnet and leave it up. prepare the jump start terminals. Using jump start cables Connect the battery to the jump start terminals.
The main battery can now be disconnected. And any items removed to allow access for Electrolyte checks.

Method B
Take all required tools into the cab.
If you have a cab radio that has a secure code have it to hand before you start.
If your alarm has special instruction for resetting either have the instructions or contact the supplier/installer.
If you have solar panels and a regulator such as the Votronic series that chrges the SB, or other facility that has a connection between the leisure and vehicle battery systems, I would recommend covering the panels and disconnecting them from the regulator.

Where the instructions state to wait 3 minutes after closing doors etc, I recommend 10 minutes if the ignition has been on within the previous 10 minutes, to allow the system to go into "sleep" mode.
The BSi must be allowed to go to SLEEP i.e. into "active economy mode". Do not operate any equipment on the vehicle during this time. Remember, even opening the bonnet will wake the BSi on a vehicle fitted with alarm.

If the battery is under the bonnet, open the bonnet first and leave it up.

ALWAYS disconnect any diagnostic equipment and do not operate any other vehicles in the vicinity during the 3 (10) minute waiting period.


Note that this procedure on a Ducato or similar van with the battery inside the cabin, requires you to be inside the van with all the doors shut etc. as per the instructions before disconnecting or reconnecting the battery, so do the preparatory work such as removing the floor covering and battery tray cover first, then get inside the vehicle, shut all the doors etc. and after waiting the requisite time, disconnect the battery. The negative terminal often has a clip type clamp, rather than a bolt. which makes things easier.

Note My Battery has extra fuses and gubbins for towing Electrics.
Now remove the terminal cover at the Positive end.
Remove these two screws and the red plastic retainer.
Now slacken the Positive clamp nut using a 10mm ring spanner and lift the lot clear.

Once the battery has been disconnected, wait at least 5 minutes before reconnecting it.
Again we can now access the electrolyte caps or remove the battery.

For removal
Check if vent pipe fitted and if so disconnect.
Shield the cable clamps to prevent them electrically contacting the battery or any metalwork whilst removing and refitting. Remove the old battery.
If you find it easier you can, of course, open the passenger door to swap the batteries once the cables have been removed, but
ensure you close all the doors again and you're back in the cab before refitting the power cables.
Clean the inside faces of the battery clamps.
Clean the terminal posts on the new battery.
Present the new battery.
Be sure to remove both transit plugs

 

[Dramfineday]

A funster recently posted this proceedure and I made a copy as it seemed extremely involved.
I must admit to replacing mine last year and it was very straight forward.
Edit : I don't have airbags and battery is in the engine bay

I can't remember who posted it, but here it is . . . . . . .

This is not a trivial thing to do. As previously stated you can easily bugger up ecus.

To avoid any problems with spiked or corrupted ECUs there are number of precautions to be taken. The SRS ECU (airbag), in particular, seems fairly prone to this and damage is often blamed on incorrect battery disconnection or jump starting procedures.
There are two options The first is the method i use for toping up the Battery with DI water. The second is Based on the official Peugeot Method . Peugeot refer to BSI (Body System Interface) Fiat BCM (Body control module)
If you have MES multiecuscan do a system scan to check for errors.

Physical access
Remove the cab carpet and there is the floor panel with coin turn fixings. A 50p piece is good tool, just half a turn on each.I find this easier to do with the door open, before touching the battery.


Method A
Fully charge a spare Battery.
Open drivers window.
Turn off ignition and remove the key and any diagnostic equipment or equipment being charged.
Open Bonnet and leave it up. prepare the jump start terminals. Using jump start cables Connect the battery to the jump start terminals.
The main battery can now be disconnected. And any items removed to allow access for Electrolyte checks.

Method B
Take all required tools into the cab.
If you have a cab radio that has a secure code have it to hand before you start.
If your alarm has special instruction for resetting either have the instructions or contact the supplier/installer.
If you have solar panels and a regulator such as the Votronic series that chrges the SB, or other facility that has a connection between the leisure and vehicle battery systems, I would recommend covering the panels and disconnecting them from the regulator.

Where the instructions state to wait 3 minutes after closing doors etc, I recommend 10 minutes if the ignition has been on within the previous 10 minutes, to allow the system to go into "sleep" mode.
The BSi must be allowed to go to SLEEP i.e. into "active economy mode". Do not operate any equipment on the vehicle during this time. Remember, even opening the bonnet will wake the BSi on a vehicle fitted with alarm.

If the battery is under the bonnet, open the bonnet first and leave it up.

ALWAYS disconnect any diagnostic equipment and do not operate any other vehicles in the vicinity during the 3 (10) minute waiting period.


Note that this procedure on a Ducato or similar van with the battery inside the cabin, requires you to be inside the van with all the doors shut etc. as per the instructions before disconnecting or reconnecting the battery, so do the preparatory work such as removing the floor covering and battery tray cover first, then get inside the vehicle, shut all the doors etc. and after waiting the requisite time, disconnect the battery. The negative terminal often has a clip type clamp, rather than a bolt. which makes things easier.

Note My Battery has extra fuses and gubbins for towing Electrics.
Now remove the terminal cover at the Positive end.
Remove these two screws and the red plastic retainer.
Now slacken the Positive clamp nut using a 10mm ring spanner and lift the lot clear.

Once the battery has been disconnected, wait at least 5 minutes before reconnecting it.
Again we can now access the electrolyte caps or remove the battery.

For removal
Check if vent pipe fitted and if so disconnect.
Shield the cable clamps to prevent them electrically contacting the battery or any metalwork whilst removing and refitting. Remove the old battery.
If you find it easier you can, of course, open the passenger door to swap the batteries once the cables have been removed, but
ensure you close all the doors again and you're back in the cab before refitting the power cables.
Clean the inside faces of the battery clamps.
Clean the terminal posts on the new battery.
Present the new battery.
Be sure to remove both transit plugs

Thank goodness I asked

 

[cyberyacht]

Hooking a spare battery to the jump leads points is a whole lot easier. Just remember that the wires are still "live" when you disconnect from the engine battery.

 

[the1andonly]

A funster recently posted this proceedure and I made a copy as it seemed extremely involved.
I must admit to replacing mine last year and it was very straight forward.
Edit : I don't have airbags and battery is in the engine bay

I can't remember who posted it, but here it is . . . . . . .

Figaro thank you for posting this, saved me searching it out.
I chopped down the cherry tree.
I mean originaly posted it.

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[Dramfineday]

A funster recently posted this proceedure and I made a copy as it seemed extremely involved.
I must admit to replacing mine last year and it was very straight forward.
Edit : I don't have airbags and battery is in the engine bay

I can't remember who posted it, but here it is . . . . . . .

This is not a trivial thing to do. As previously stated you can easily bugger up ecus.

To avoid any problems with spiked or corrupted ECUs there are number of precautions to be taken. The SRS ECU (airbag), in particular, seems fairly prone to this and damage is often blamed on incorrect battery disconnection or jump starting procedures.
There are two options The first is the method i use for toping up the Battery with DI water. The second is Based on the official Peugeot Method . Peugeot refer to BSI (Body System Interface) Fiat BCM (Body control module)
If you have MES multiecuscan do a system scan to check for errors.

Physical access
Remove the cab carpet and there is the floor panel with coin turn fixings. A 50p piece is good tool, just half a turn on each.I find this easier to do with the door open, before touching the battery.


Method A
Fully charge a spare Battery.
Open drivers window.
Turn off ignition and remove the key and any diagnostic equipment or equipment being charged.
Open Bonnet and leave it up. prepare the jump start terminals. Using jump start cables Connect the battery to the jump start terminals.
The main battery can now be disconnected. And any items removed to allow access for Electrolyte checks.

Method B
Take all required tools into the cab.
If you have a cab radio that has a secure code have it to hand before you start.
If your alarm has special instruction for resetting either have the instructions or contact the supplier/installer.
If you have solar panels and a regulator such as the Votronic series that chrges the SB, or other facility that has a connection between the leisure and vehicle battery systems, I would recommend covering the panels and disconnecting them from the regulator.

Where the instructions state to wait 3 minutes after closing doors etc, I recommend 10 minutes if the ignition has been on within the previous 10 minutes, to allow the system to go into "sleep" mode.
The BSi must be allowed to go to SLEEP i.e. into "active economy mode". Do not operate any equipment on the vehicle during this time. Remember, even opening the bonnet will wake the BSi on a vehicle fitted with alarm.

If the battery is under the bonnet, open the bonnet first and leave it up.

ALWAYS disconnect any diagnostic equipment and do not operate any other vehicles in the vicinity during the 3 (10) minute waiting period.


Note that this procedure on a Ducato or similar van with the battery inside the cabin, requires you to be inside the van with all the doors shut etc. as per the instructions before disconnecting or reconnecting the battery, so do the preparatory work such as removing the floor covering and battery tray cover first, then get inside the vehicle, shut all the doors etc. and after waiting the requisite time, disconnect the battery. The negative terminal often has a clip type clamp, rather than a bolt. which makes things easier.

Note My Battery has extra fuses and gubbins for towing Electrics.
Now remove the terminal cover at the Positive end.
Remove these two screws and the red plastic retainer.
Now slacken the Positive clamp nut using a 10mm ring spanner and lift the lot clear.

Once the battery has been disconnected, wait at least 5 minutes before reconnecting it.
Again we can now access the electrolyte caps or remove the battery.

For removal
Check if vent pipe fitted and if so disconnect.
Shield the cable clamps to prevent them electrically contacting the battery or any metalwork whilst removing and refitting. Remove the old battery.

If you find it easier you can, of course, open the passenger door to swap the batteries once the cables have been removed, but
ensure you close all the doors again and you're back in the cab before refitting the power cables.
Clean the inside faces of the battery clamps.
Clean the terminal posts on the new battery.
Present the new battery.
Be sure to remove both transit plugs

Many thanks Figaro, used your method "A" plus other info re change out. Job went smoothly and new battery installed. Found that having an additional person, as help, is a good idea.

 

[scotjimland]

If it's anything like mine.... a pig to access and a heavy left..

Bought mine at a tyre depot that sold and fitted batteries.

I just let them fit it .. no extra charge (no pun intended) He connected an OBD reader before disconnecting the old battery.