Spanish gas bottle regulator help

[lovingliving]

Hi we have a repsol quick release bottle and have now tried two different regulators each releases far too much gas or none. Can anyone explain what we are doing wrong thanks

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

How is it connected to your van?,your showing the repsol adaptor plus an in line regulator.
Have you got this connected to your van regulator by any chance. If so you don't really need the inline regulator.

 

[lovingliving]

No we have tried with or without the inline regulator still no joy!

 

[lovingliving]

No we have tried with or without the inline regulator still no joy!

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

You don't need the inline regulator if its connected to your van regulator.
Daft question,..have you opened the adaptor valve ( red knob on top of adaptor)…?

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[lovingliving]

We don’t have a van regulatorYes we have opened the red knob could it be we need a different inline regulator the one we have is what we use on our French bottle?

 

[tonka]

The first pic is an adapter. It takes a standard butane pigtail and will connect straight to your bulkhead regulator fitted in the van, remember to turn the red knob to allow gas to flow.
Pic 2 is just wrong ...don't use it.
Pic 3 is a Spanish regulator, this can be used but it depends where you are connecting to. You can't run this into your bulkhead regulator most people connect this into the gas line after the bulkhead often via the BBQ point.
Is that white hose a proper one for use with gas ?? Never seen a white one.

 

[lovingliving]

Thank you. We realised pic 3 was the wrong one so bought the one with the red knob which we presumed was a regulator but when connected directly the flow is much too strong. Our van is old and we do not have an onboard regulator which has never beena problem. When we turn the red knob it seems to be all or nothing and does not ´regulate’

 

[bobandjanie]

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[Orion]

What pressure is the appliance(s) in the van rated for? If an older vehicle they may be expecting 37mb (or even 50mb with some manufacturers).

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[Emmit]

Pic 1 is a bottle with an Adaptor fitted. If you are certain that you do not have a Built in Reg on the van. This is wrong.
Pic 2 is a bottle with an Adaptor fitted (Wrong) but has a ???? fitted between that and the van. Now, if the connection
to Pic 1 is the same but with that ???? fitted and you are getting nothing, then it follows that the ??? (I can't read what
is the inscription on ???? therefore I cannot stand on a stack of Bibles and say what it is.
Pic 3 is a Regulator. If you do not have a Reg. built in then that should be the correct fitment. However, I cannot tell you
from looking at a photo as to whether or not that Reg in your? hand is working..

The only way you can 'prove' that is by fitting a Reg. that is known to work.

I hope this helps.

 

[Emmit]

What pressure is the appliance(s) in the van rated for? If an older vehicle they may be expecting 37mb (or even 50mb with some manufacturers).

When built in Regs were first fitted to Motorhomes and Caravans about 20 yrs ago. it was stated that the 'New' accepted pressure of 30mb coming out of a Built in Reg. would make an insignificant difference as to whether you were previously using a Butane Reg (wasn't it at 28mb?) or a Propane Reg. at ???35mb

 

[lovingliving]

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We have one see picture 3 but it is definitely wrong as it comes through like a flame thrower!

 

[Lenny HB]

Built in Reg. would make an insignificant difference as to whether you were previously using a Butane Reg (wasn't it at 28mb?) or a Propane Reg. at ???35mb

It's was 37mb for propane apart from German ones pre 2002 were 50 mb
The big difference is grills are now naff & ovens not as good so much for "it won't make any difference".

 

[Emmit]

We have one see picture 3 but it is definitely wrong as it comes through like a flame thrower!

It isn't wrong as it is a Regulator but if it is imitating a flame thrower (where?) then it is malfunctioning.

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[Emmit]

It's was 37mb for propane apart from German ones pre 2002 were 50 mb
The big difference is grills are now naff & ovens not as good so much for "it won't make any difference".

Lenny,

Can the jets on the elderly German vans be changed to a suitable pressure (I note that the OP has a Hobby of pre 2002 vintage.)

 

[gus-lopez]

Thank you. We realised pic 3 was the wrong one so bought the one with the red knob which we presumed was a regulator but when connected directly the flow is much too strong. Our van is old and we do not have an onboard regulator which has never beena problem. When we turn the red knob it seems to be all or nothing and does not ´regulate’

This is a "full output" regulator. The silver adaptor with the red knob isn't a regulator and allows far too much pressure & flow in to the system & should only be used with a built in onboard regulator. we only use them for oxypropane or butane welding torches. It will blow the seals on most gas rings . The correct regulator is the one shown with the over centre on/off supply as per post #9, If still not right their is something wrong with the regulator.

 

[lovingliving]

It isn't wrong as it is a Regulator but if it is imitating a flame thrower (where?) then it is malfunctioning.

 

[Richard n Ann]

Big yellow flames are when there is liquid in the pipe

 

[lovingliving]

Ok I’m referring to the gas hob. The flame is much too strong when we try either of the fitments. It was fine with our french bottle and regulator. The hobby manual says it should be 30mb. Both the fitments were sold to us as ‘regulators’ We purchased the on/off one first which let through too much gas so we were then told it was wrong and we needed the one with the red knob but that is just the same. They can’t both be faulty can they?

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[bobandjanie]

Hi, the red top fitting is an adjustable valve, so fitting the red regulator would be the same as your French gas bottle, so that would be fine.
Whatever you do don't use that valve unless you have a high pressure hose and bulkhead regulator fitted.

The other one with the flip over to turn it On, is a regulator suitable for Spanish propano and butane gas bottles.

Why your gas is doing what it's doing, I don't know but it could have been overfilled, maybe try and get it weighed, or go to one of the Repsol depot's and get them to check the bottle. Bob.

 

[Itsmcb]

If your still not sorted it might be useful to show the set up you use for your french bottle.

 

[Gypsyblood]

Hi. This is a strange set up. I lived in my camper in Spain for years and obviously used Spanish (Repsol) gas bottles. The collar fitting for these bottles is the same shape as yours but has a gas pipe fitting on the side, not a threaded one. I have never seen one of these before.
I would suggest that the fitting you need will have one like the regulator in the second picture but attached to a pipe that feeds straight to your cooker.
Please don't take this as gospel. It's only supposition from my experience of Spanish gas bottles but it may be worth checking.
Also it is illegal in Spain to have a gas pipe (orange) that is over 3 years old because they perish, especially in the Spanish heat.
The date of manufacture is in the white writing on the gas pipe