So you look out your front (house) window ...

[CWH]

... which is lovely to see, but these boys really should be up in the hills by now, population pressure is just too great, I fear there will be a lot of culling soon

 

[Shango]

WOW!!! What a wonderful sight to see, lucky you

 

[CWH]

WOW!!! What a wonderful sight to see, lucky you

I know, feel so privileged

 

[Garfields]

All great till they munch the garden
They do that here they will end up on my menu.

 

[pappajohn]

We have similar from our kitchen window most days.
Not like those but the smaller red deer
It varies between one and five deer.
Every year we see 2 or 3 babies but the total is never more than 5 deer.
We do get poachers during the night

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[Langtoftlad]

I fear there will be a lot of culling soon

Venison burgers - yum

Sorry Wendy but if they're being culled, waste not...

Philosophically, would the herds even exist if not for the hunting etc?

 

[CWH]

All great till they munch the garden
They do that here they will end up on my menu.

They're doing a lot of browsing of new growth on shrubs & stuff, and they're digging up (but not eating) daffodil bulbs, and eating tulips and lilies. They usually visit at twilight or overnight and mostly they're just passing through. A lot of my neighbours are getting a bit fed up of them but personally, I don't mind them at all. I'd be more worried of they were looking underfed but they're really quite healthy. My main issue is that they're bringing extra ticks into the gardens, as if we didn't have enough with sheep, rabbit etc

 

[CWH]

Venison burgers - yum

Sorry Wendy but if they're being culled, waste not...

Philosophically, would the herds even exist if not for the hunting etc?

Totally agree Stephen, if they're going to be killed anyway. My objection is to the killing, when it's because of a belief that humans have more right to life than other creatures.
As to your philosophical question - well without human intervention, most species adapt, develop and find their own balance and have done for millennia before this little pocket of time when humans are shaping the world - and doubtless will continue to do so long after we're gone.

 

[nicholsong]

Venison burgers - yum

Sorry Wendy but if they're being culled, waste not...

Philosophically, would the herds even exist if not for the hunting etc?

They do in Richmond Park, London, both Red and Fallow herds.

Their ancestors were originally there for the King'a hunting parties.

There is limited space so those herds are culled.

 

[CAB96]

If there is no natural predator, then culling is really the only option.

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[Howard B]

Just two workmens vans outside our front. New oak doors being fitted internally.

 

[Nanniemate]

Someone parked a bl@@dy big van with windows outside of mine

 

[999RAR]

There are a lot more deer these days. When I started going to the Highlands over 50 years ago you usually had to go well away from human habitiation to see them.
With no natural predators they do need culling at a greater number as they do a lot of damage and prevent re-growth of trees. A lot of the large shooting estates prefer the higher numbers as they have more happy customers who don't have to do as much stalking to get there kill.

 

[KNWH]

Already posted elsewhere before, but my avatar:
Mrs KNWH got up 5.30 to take a picture of the sunrise and these three strolled into view just after she’d opened the front door

 

[pappajohn]

Our deer come into the front garden regularly.
One day we had one staring into the lounge window......but not for long.
The dogs love em. They stand in the field maybe 100 yards from the garden fence and take no notice of the dogs going mental trying to get at them.

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[dunnah01]

All I could see out of the front window was a bloke throwing milk and cheese at our house - I just thought 'how dairy'

Old uns are the best

 

[Derbyshire wanderer]

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... which is lovely to see, but these boys really should be up in the hills by now, population pressure is just too great, I fear there will be a lot of culling soon

Whilst I have no issues with culling deer to keep a healthy population it is unfortunate that the Scottish government are becoming obsessed with wiping them out.
They are an excellent top quality food choice but are almost worthless to the game dealers. This makes culling expensive and undesirable so numbers are increasing and making them a target of government intervention due to tree damage and road casualties.

 

[Nanniemate]

Whilst I have no issues with culling deer to keep a healthy population it is unfortunate that the Scottish government are becoming obsessed with wiping them out.
They are an excellent top quality food choice but are almost worthless to the game dealers. This makes culling expensive and undesirable so numbers are increasing and making them a target of government intervention due to tree damage and road casualties.

Local deer farm to me is excellent but during the hunting season they have great deals on pheasant they prepare and pack all you need to do is pop in oven

 

[CazPaul]

Wolves are the answer a natural predator

 

[CaptainPaul]

(Side window) No deer but lots of dolphins & the occasional whale

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[Lenny HB]

We only get sheep or cows in the field by our house.

 

[Scotch mist]

This is the view out my bedroom windows

First picture , it’s having mushroom breakfast

Roe dear , we see them all round us

 

[Derbyshire wanderer]

Local deer farm to me is excellent but during the hunting season they have great deals on pheasant they prepare and pack all you need to do is pop in oven

Pheasant is another brilliant meal but like the venison is almost worthless. Some of the larger shoots have been known to bury them as the game dealers offering 50p a brace is a joke. Farm shops are becoming the only places to find wild game.
Being shot makes the supermarkets not want to be involved but it isn’t ever going to stop the need to shoot deer as there are no natural predators and introducing suitable predators would have undesirable outcomes for other wildlife and humans.

 

[jumartoo]

We only get golfers. Sometimes

 

[cyberyacht]

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... which is lovely to see, but these boys really should be up in the hills by now, population pressure is just too great, I fear there will be a lot of culling soon

Herds of Wildebeest. Must be Torquay

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[L' Hobo]

Totally agree Stephen, if they're going to be killed anyway. My objection is to the killing, when it's because of a belief that humans have more right to life than other creatures.
As to your philosophical question - well without human intervention, most species adapt, develop and find their own balance and have done for millennia before this little pocket of time when humans are shaping the world - and doubtless will continue to do so long after we're gone.

I wonder what the Dinosaurs and Mammoth would say about a finding a balance?

They didn't do too well before man's intervention.

 

[DuxDeluxe]

Local deer farm to me is excellent but during the hunting season they have great deals on pheasant they prepare and pack all you need to do is pop in oven

Nothing like prepared peasants…..

 

[DuxDeluxe]

We only get golfers. Sometimes

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Good telescopic sight and 0.338 round….. Easy.

 

[Nirvanauk]

Pheasant is another brilliant meal but like the venison is almost worthless. Some of the larger shoots have been known to bury them as the game dealers offering 50p a brace is a joke. Farm shops are becoming the only places to find wild game.
Being shot makes the supermarkets not want to be involved but it isn’t ever going to stop the need to shoot deer as there are no natural predators and introducing suitable predators would have undesirable outcomes for other wildlife and humans.

I live on the North Yorkshire moors and in the shooting season they have a JCB following the shoot and just bury them. Sad innit..

 

[Derbyshire wanderer]

I live on the North Yorkshire moors and in the shooting season they have a JCB following the shoot and just bury them. Sad innit..

Yes, it’s indefensible to shoot them just to bury them.

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