Selfish/Ignorant Dog Owners

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Mattyjwr said:
It isn't necessarily a new breed of owners. I nearly had fisty cuffs with a crumpy gunt who upset when i used my knee to push his dog away from me and my petrified son. The dog had walked out of a lake, stood next to us, shook itself dry and tried to lick my lad who was cowering behind me (this was within a month or two of a dog bite event). The owner refused to call his dog off so I pushed it away. The elderly owner stormed up to me and threatened to deck me if I touched his dog again.
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That’s exactly my point a dog is a dog,,it’s the owner that was at fault,the owner should have noticed the situation but was obviously a complete knob.
 
Wabs said:
Personally, I would have lobbed the owner into the lake,, (y)
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I was tempted but any f****r willing to threaten someone half his age holding a crying child with a load of other family types around as witnesses is likely to have been unhinged in many ways. I had my lad with me who would have been distraught had a fight broken out.
 
Mattyjwr said:
My son trusted the owners who said their dogs were really gentle etc. they also encouraged him to say hello to the dogs. The last occasion he was ignoring the dog, just trying to walk past it and the dog bit him.
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The owners were idiots! Our dogs don't have an issue with people or kids but I wouldn't encourage them to say hello to our dogs unless the kids/people wanted to and even then I would ensure that our dogs were okay (ie not under the weather as our Lily has been) so not in a grumpy mood, our Tazzy loves people, the more the merrier, but some just don't know how to treat a dog and can grab at and startle them (not saying that your son did) and can make them wary of the next encounter.

I find it hard to believe that the owners of these 'gentle dogs' haven't had a similar thing happen previously but have chosen to ignore/deny it which is totally irresponsible. Our dogs have never bitten anyone, ever, and if they so much as curled a lip at another person they'd never get the opportunity to do so again.
 
More than one way of skinning the proverbial cat (y) (y) But I admire your restraint,,(y)

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Wabs said:
Personally, I would have lobbed the owner into the lake,, (y)
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Tell you what when I’m on site next and if you bump into me and my dog does his business on the grass, try and lob me into the lake.

Go on please…… 🤬
 
Minxy Girl said:
The owners were idiots! Our dogs don't have an issue with people or kids but I wouldn't encourage them to say hello to our dogs unless the kids/people wanted to and even then I would ensure that our dogs were okay (ie not under the weather as our Lily has been) so not in a grumpy mood, our Tazzy loves people, the more the merrier, but some just don't know how to treat a dog and can grab at and startle them (not saying that your son did) and can make them wary of the next encounter.

I find it hard to believe that the owners of these 'gentle dogs' haven't had a similar thing happen previously but have chosen to ignore/deny it which is totally irresponsible. Our dogs have never bitten anyone, ever, and if they so much as curled a lip at another person they'd never get the opportunity to do so again.
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The dogs were a shitzu type, a collie and an Irish wolfhound... The latter's top jaw clamping on the top of my son’s head and the lower jaw on my son’s jaw. I suspect that the dogs saw my young son as being welcomed into the pack by the owners and they wanted to assert their position in the hierarchy. I could be wrong however I've seen many examples of when peeps have misread animal psychology and tried to apply their own judgments or values.
 
Mattyjwr said:
It isn't necessarily a new breed of owners. I nearly had fisty cuffs with a crumpy gunt who upset when i used my knee to push his dog away from me and my petrified son. The dog had walked out of a lake, stood next to us, shook itself dry and tried to lick my lad who was cowering behind me (this was within a month or two of a dog bite event). The owner refused to call his dog off so I pushed it away. The elderly owner stormed up to me and threatened to deck me if I touched his dog again.
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We haven't got kids but I empathise with you as we've had similar situations with our dogs being 'frightened' by other dogs due to them being aggressive/lively/too inquisitive etc, and the owners who didn't seem to get it that when you say for them to take their dog away you are doing so for a good reason, not just being awkward. The last time it happened was in Wales in May when one dog, although not nasty, was constantly trying to sniff our Tazzy's rear end, seeing as she had in the past been picked up by a dog and thrown through no fault of her own she is wary even now of strange dogs approaching her back/rear so was getting quite fretful as it was very, very persistent. The own just wouldn't call or take it away so hubby told him in no uncertain terms that if he didn't he would ensure it got a swift kick up its arse to ensure it did so! Fortunately the owner called it away otherwise it would've ended up in orbit!

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We stayed on a CL recently and the last person to occupy the pitch must have had a hairy moulting dog as the grass was covered with clumps of damp dog hair and several doggy deposits in the hedge.
Not very pleasant.
 
Mattyjwr said:
The dogs were a shitzu type, a collie and an Irish wolfhound... The latter's top jaw clamping on the top of my son’s head and the lower jaw on my son’s jaw. I suspect that the dogs saw my young son as being welcomed into the pack by the owners and they wanted to assert their position in the hierarchy. I could be wrong however I've seen many examples of when peeps have misread animal psychology and tried to apply their own judgments or values.
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No matter how well we think we know dogs we can only make a 'best guess' at what our dogs are thinking/going to do etc, based on our observation and knowledge of their past behaviour, traits etc. All owners should know this and never lose sight of the fact that there are no guarantees about a dog's behaviour, just as there isn't with a human, but at least with the latter we can usually get more of a clue as we can talk with them.

I love my dogs dearly but despite calling them silly names and cuddling them I know full well they are not human 'babies' and I can't make them comply with 100% certainty with anything, no-one can ... well maybe one thing ... when they want their dinner they'll just about do anything I tell them too!
 
Vanderek said:
I am on a site and next door is a caravan with two dogs and two parrots... so this scores, the dogs don't bark but follow me with a ball, owners keeps shouting come back you should be on a lead, ....well put them on a lead this time....anyway the parrots are out side in cages, have not stopped, the Macdonalds tune and answer phone noises for the last two days, the owner is vaping, grandad is smoking a pipe, and the bbq is lit all about a metre from the parrots , I think they are coughing, hello , hello .. :X3:
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Are you free loading2🙄
 
Minxy Girl said:
No matter how well we think we know dogs we can only make a 'best guess' at what our dogs are thinking/going to do etc, based on our observation and knowledge of their past behaviour, traits etc. All owners should know this and never lose sight of the fact that there are no guarantees about a dog's behaviour, just as there isn't with a human, but at least with the latter we can usually get more of a clue as we can talk with them.
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The most sensible thing I have read in this entire post. I feel that I know my dog (Booth) better than any other person, but I wouldn't even try to pretend that I know what he'll do without fail. Some of that is his past as a rescue dog is a little murky...as I said previously we know he was physically abused and abandoned, but God knows what else happened to the poor thing in his early life. He's also got his own personality just like any other living thing. He has his off-days, mood swings etc etc. I can make a good guess about how he will react to certain situations and then try to pre-empt anything else.
I know he gets incredibly jealous if we stroke other dogs, so we adjust our behaviour to reassure him when this is going to happen (i.e friends bring their dog round)
I know he is very protective of our son, so we make sure again to look out for certain things happening.
There's very rarely a bad dog, there's far too many bad dog owners.
 
I’ve had dogs all my life and yes it’s bad owners that give good dogs a bad name and it’s how they are brought up and treated.

I have a 6 month old Springer spaniel and he’s still learning every Tom dock and Harry wants to stroke him and he loves it, he’s not nasty, loves everybody and gets on with everything and everyone and that’s how I’ve started to train him.

But……. When he’s out and about some sites have specific areas for dogs but you cannot tell a dog as he’s walking past a patch of grass NOOOOOOOOOOO DONT DO IT THEIR but he will and yes no gravel, grass or dirt is damaged in collecting his natural deposit from the ground.

Now, some people don’t like dogs for valid reasons but PLEASE, PLEASE stop moaning, groaning about dogs, owners it’s getting to me and my head can’t take it any more.

If you don’t like dogs fair enough but don’t tar every dog owner with the same brush and if anyone has a go at me when I’m with my dog god help you.

Wishes.
 
Realist said:
I’ve had dogs all my life and yes it’s bad owners that give good dogs a bad name and it’s how they are brought up and treated.

I have a 6 month old Springer spaniel and he’s still learning every Tom dock and Harry wants to stroke him and he loves it, he’s not nasty, loves everybody and gets on with everything and everyone and that’s how I’ve started to train him.

But……. When he’s out and about some sites have specific areas for dogs but you cannot tell a dog as he’s walking past a patch of grass NOOOOOOOOOOO DONT DO IT THEIR but he will and yes no gravel, grass or dirt is damaged in collecting his natural deposit from the ground.

Now, some people don’t like dogs for valid reasons but PLEASE, PLEASE stop moaning, groaning about dogs, owners it’s getting to me and my head can’t take it any more.

If you don’t like dogs fair enough but don’t tar every dog owner with the same brush and if anyone has a go at me when I’m with my dog god help you.

Wishes.
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i think you have the wrong end of the stick here,everyone has agreed with what you have said,,,it’s the minority of owners which are responsible, not the dogs,,,but before you go into defence/attack mode read all the posts,,bit like catchphrase,if you only see a part you don’t get the whole picture, (y)
 
Hence why I said don’t tar every dog owner with the same brush.
 
Realist said:
but you cannot tell a dog as he’s walking past a patch of grass NOOOOOOOOOOO DONT DO IT THEIR but he will and yes no gravel, grass or dirt is damaged in collecting his natural deposit from the ground.
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Can't you? I've had two labradors. I trained both to only go on grass, and when on a lead to only go when given the appropriate command. When on a lead, they walked to heel. No sniffing, marking lamp posts, bushes or doing anything else until in a suitable location to be off lead when they were free to exercise and do what they wanted. None of these ridiculous spooling leads (although I had one for training purposes, but never walking in public areas). Not rocket science to train dogs, but every time I walk up our high street these days, I have to negotiate dogs on extending leads running right across the footpath and owners totally oblivious to the lack of consideration for other people because they are too busy being led by their dogs rather than the other way round.

I love dogs, but not people who can't or won't control them. I've been bitten several times by dogs who were "just playing" according to owners who have no control over them when I've met them on walks in the countryside, and I'm well over £1K down in damage and repairs to sometimes expensive outdoor clothing that has been ripped by "only playing" dogs which the owners have no recall over (begging the question why they are off a lead at all in a public place).
 
Come on guys get your dog's trained
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As the originator of this subject can I just point out to Realist the majority of post on this matter agree it’s the very few dog owners who act this way. But your responses below show the typical attitude of those few
Realist said:
But……. When he’s out and about some sites have specific areas for dogs but you cannot tell a dog as he’s walking past a patch of grass NOOOOOOOOOOO DONT DO IT THEIR but he will and yes no gravel, grass or dirt is damaged in collecting his natural deposit from the ground.
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Realist said:
“and if anyone has a go at me when I’m with my dog god help you.”
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Aggressive owners, aggressive dogs,,is there a link? ;)

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As i maintain about anything that gets people wound up, it is the minority who are responsible for the problems and get noticed, because those who are caring respectful people do not bring attention to themselves.
Don't let it wind you up, remember that most people are not like this.
When did you last see a post / comment anywhere about good behaviour of any sort!!
 
As someone who is a nervous cyclist and very nervous around dogs I would like to shoot the inventor of extendable leads. They are a terrifying combination in the hands of some stupid dog owners, they suddenly realise they don’t know how to retract it and their dog doesn’t come to heel when ordered. I’m lucky as I’m so slow on my bike but I’ve seen a few nasty accidents when dogs shoot out attached.

I’d have to say motorhoming has helped me overcome my fear of dogs quite a bit and I was determined my children wouldn’t be like me and they’re not. It was a real pain when I was a GP, I was notorious!
 
carolyn said:
As someone who is a nervous cyclist and very nervous around dogs I would like to shoot the inventor of extendable leads. They are a terrifying combination in the hands of some stupid dog owners, they suddenly realise they don’t know how to retract it and their dog doesn’t come to heel when ordered. I’m lucky as I’m so slow on my bike but I’ve seen a few nasty accidents when dogs shoot out attached.

I’d have to say motorhoming has helped me overcome my fear of dogs quite a bit and I was determined my children wouldn’t be like me and they’re not. It was a real pain when I was a GP, I was notorious!
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My daughter has a fear of people’s feet, that why she is a vet! :ROFLMAO:
 
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