Seized screen door hinge

[fred flintstone]

My door opens and closes easily, not sticking at all.
Problem is with the fly screen that sits on the same hinges. It will not budge, not even a bit.
I've tried plusgas, WD40, 3in1 oil etc but it is still stuck.
Don't want to force it, obviously
I read somewhere that the only fix is to take the door off and ream the hinge pin holes.
Has anybody done this or found a different solution?
Thanks

 

[Lenny HB]

WD40 will have made it worse looks like that hinge has nylon inserts WD40 will make them swell. You should only use silicone or Ptfe.

 

[fred flintstone]

cheers

 

[oldiesontour]

You could try detatching them one at a time from either the fram or the door warming with a hair drier to see if you can move them( it may only be one or two that are seized

 

[fred flintstone]

Good idea, I'll give it a go tomorrow. If I have any success do you think should I lube them with 3 in 1 oil? Do you know if the pins just knock out?

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[pappajohn]

If I have any success do you think should I lube them with 3 in 1 oil?

As already said ..... Silicon spray or PTFE.
Once free maybe graphite powder worked into the hinge.

Regular oil and maintenance sprays will make the nylon bushings swell

 

[Richard n Ann]

should I lube them with 3 in 1 o

Fully synthetic engine oil is amazing, much better than mineral oil.

I fixed a fan a few years ago that had seized up, it's still working today normally they only last 2 more weeks with normal oil.

 

[oldiesontour]

People refering to nylon bushes..they should be from an engineering point of view but are fairly likely to be a cheaper plastic alternative in my experience

 

[B+W vanman]

Can I ask: how old is the van? And is it new to you?
Lastly, is there a catch that holds the two panels together?
I must say I’m confused by this!

 

[fred flintstone]

Can I ask: how old is the van? And is it new to you?
Lastly, is there a catch that holds the two panels together?
I must say I’m confused by this!

The van is 2012 Elddis Sunseeker 140. I got it one week ago. The fly screen is attached to the door with a push in catch. I'm confused as well haha. It's in for vehicle service today but I will take more pictures when it is back home. Thanks.

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[fred flintstone]

3 Pictures. 1 is screen door closed and clipped to door. 2 is clip that fastens fly screen to door (when it is not seized). 3 is screen unclipped from door and open.

 

[jockaneezer]

I'm not quite following this, in the first pic with the door open, the hinges for the fly screen must work or you wouldn't be able to open the door, you sure there isn't a catch hidden away somewhere ?
In your picture, hinge X is for the screen and hinge Y is for the door, but they both appear to pivot on the same pin which makes me think there has to be a hidden catch or snag ?

Hopefully the dealer can sort it out without having to dismantle everything and drilling out those rivets ?

 

[headlight]

3 Pictures. 1 is screen door closed and clipped to door. 2 is clip that fastens fly screen to door (when it is not seized). 3 is screen unclipped from door and open.



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My sister had the same problem when she bought her, funnily enough 2012 Elddis, motorhome last year.
She managed to snap one of the hinges trying to get the fly screen open as the pin was seized.
I replaced all the hinges for her with new.
Easy enough job.
Cost about £90 for a set of hinges iirc and there is only one place you can get them from.

 

[fred flintstone]

I'm not quite following this, in the first pic with the door open, the hinges for the fly screen must work or you wouldn't be able to open the door, you sure there isn't a catch hidden away somewhere ?
In your picture, hinge X is for the screen and hinge Y is for the door, but they both appear to pivot on the same pin which makes me think there has to be a hidden catch or snag ?
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Hopefully the dealer can sort it out without having to dismantle everything and drilling out those rivets ?

I released the catch holding them together. I think X is the one that is seized and will not rotate on its own. I'll keep you informed of my progress, is any haha

 

[fred flintstone]

My sister had the same problem when she bought her, funnily enough 2012 Elddis, motorhome last year.
She managed to snap one of the hinges trying to get the fly screen open as the pin was seized.
I replaced all the hinges for her with new.
Easy enough job.
Cost about £90 for a set of hinges iirc and there is only one place you can get them from.

Thanks. Can you remember where you bought the hinges? My Google search can't find them.

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[jockaneezer]

Thanks. Can you remember where you bought the hinges? My Google search can't find them.

Quick search came up with these...

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[B+W vanman]

I released the catch holding them together. I think X is the one that is seized and will not rotate on its own. I'll keep you informed of my progress, is any haha

If X is seized, why will the complete door open?

 

[headlight]

Thanks. Can you remember where you bought the hinges? My Google search can't find them.

 

[David M]

If X is seized, why will the complete door open?

At a guess: The pin turns within the outer parts of the hinge, but X and Y are both stuck to that same pin?

 

[headlight]

Thanks. Can you remember where you bought the hinges? My Google search can't find them.

Remembering back it was only the one hinge I replaced, which was about £90, as the other hinges were fine.
You do need a reasonable quality rivet gun for the job which luckily I have as my sisters partners rivet gun wasn't up to the job.
I lubricated the new hinge, as well as the existing hinges, liberally with silicone spray.

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[fred flintstone]

If X is seized, why will the complete door open?

I haven't got a clue to be honest. My thoughts are that X is zeized to the pin

Quick search came up with these...

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Billsunhinged59@outlook.com sells them £90 each, like you said

 

[headlight]

I haven't got a clue to be honest. My thoughts are that X is zeized to the pin

Billsunhinged59@outlook.com sells them £90 each, like you said

The pin moves in the 3 hinges that are attached to the door but is seized in the 2 hinges attached to the fly screen.
So instead of the door and screen hinges being able to move independently of each other they move as one allowing the door to open and close freely but the screen is seized against the door.
It's just caused by lack of use of the screen.

 

[fred flintstone]

The pin moves in the 3 hinges that are attached to the door but is seized in the 2 hinges attached to the fly screen.
So instead of the door and screen hinges being able to move independently of each other they move as one allowing the door to open and close freely but the screen is seized against the door.
It's just caused by lack of use of the screen.

Hit the nail on the head. Thanks