Ryanair New Baggage Policy - Should be Interesting

[EuroTrotters]

Hi,

So usually, when I have to use Ryanair, I book us on the front row seats. With this came Priority Boarding, though we rarely bother. Its a pain to get to the front often and then, people have usually filled the overhead lockers. Very crafty too, even though front row seats came with Priority at an extra £22, the crafty little Leprechauns at Ryanair programmed the web to ask "Would you like Priority Boarding for only £5 more".

Now, Ryanair have changed the rules. Front Row will Still cost us £22 extra. BUT! if we want Priority and be Guaranteed a Space in the Overhead locker, you have to pay an extra £6.

Now Here is the Interesting scenario.

I have booked to take our GrandChildren with us at the weekend. Two of us are front row, two behind. I have only added 2 x Priority / Cabin Bags for me and Mrs TM. So, what will they do when we rock up with a 6 and 9 year old who are none priority. We only needed to put two bags in the cabin so not paid for the Infants.

 

[Yorick]

Now Here is the Interesting scenario.

I have booked to take our GrandChildren with us at the weekend. Two of us are front row, two behind. I have only added 2 x Priority / Cabin Bags for me and Mrs TM. So, what will they do when we rock up with a 6 and 9 year old who are none priority. We only needed to put two bags in the cabin so not paid for the Infants.

I've read that 6 times, and making no sense. Or am I missing something ?

 

[ivorantony]

I have been told by my daughter that when she flew with her 7 year old they split them up, she wasn’t best pleased!
my wife flys regularly to Dublin from Gatwick and just takes a small backpack, she isn’t bothered we’re she sits and the last 5 flights she done booked in advance came to only £29.50 return inclusive,
play them at there own game and take minimal luggage, paying extra for window/ priority boarding/hold luggage is IMO a waste of money,
you all arrive at the same time ( hopefully )so why give O ‘leary some extra money,

 

[tonka]

As I flew back only 1 day ago via Ryanair from Alicante I assume you mean about the new cabin bag policy. ?
If so you now carry your hand baggage down as far as the plane steps where you leave it and it goes in the plane hold. They tag it either in the airport lounge, while in the queue or as you start to board.
My understanding is you must book adult priority when travelling with children so you are seated together but the cost of the kids seats are free. I suspect they let you take the kids cases on.

For me it was a no brained, I walked on the plane as the very last passenger, my bag was taken and put in the hold so all I had to do was walk on sit down,. Take off mins later. Much better than the priority people who had actually been standing in the line and then sat waiting on the plane for around 40 mins in total...

 

[EuroTrotters]

I've read that 6 times, and making no sense. Or am I missing something ?

Okay, skip the first Paragraph.

In order for you to take Hand luggage type Suitcases (50cmx40cmx20cm) into the Cabin, you now have to pay an additional £6 per passenger. This then entitles you to Priority Boarding (first on).

However, we have only Purchased Priority and Two Cabin Bags for us, the two adults. So, if we do turn up to the front of the Queue accompanying one (none Priority boarding or two bags) Children what will the Staff do?.

Does that make sense?

God alone will know what will happen if we all book "Priority and 2 Cabin Bags" Or have the Leprechauns limited that?, I doubt it where money is involved.

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[EuroTrotters]

My understanding is you must book adult priority when travelling with children so you are seated together but the cost of the kids seats are free. I suspect they let you take the kids cases on.

No, if you book a Child on an allowable Premium seats, you pay the same £22, £17 or whatever it is.

And no, you have to pay for the kids cases too.

 

[EuroTrotters]

I have been told by my daughter that when she flew with her 7 year old they split them up, she wasn’t best pleased!
my wife flys regularly to Dublin from Gatwick and just takes a small backpack, she isn’t bothered we’re she sits and the last 5 flights she done booked in advance came to only £29.50 return inclusive,
play them at there own game and take minimal luggage, paying extra for window/ priority boarding/hold luggage is IMO a waste of money,
you all arrive at the same time ( hopefully )so why give O ‘leary some extra money,

Thank you for the reply.

Slightly contradicts your opening sentence?.

Yes, I take on-board your opinion. We are not all one size fits all. If I had more time, I would always drive and probably in the motorhome.

I used to love flying, I could get on an Aeroplane and fly anywhere anytime and I did it for many years. Then one day, out of the blue I had an incident that saw me not flying (in a an Airplane) for more than 10 years. It took me some time to get back on one again and it was not easy and I am not a nervous or nimby person. I Usually just get on with things.

But I have to sit next to my Grandson as, I may have to administer his medications.

And in the whole grand scheme of things. Considering what We spend on travel alone every year. A few £22's are nothing.

Especially at the moment as the cost of Direct flights from Manchester have rocketed due to the loss of Monarch. That and Norwegian and Vueling quit Many Manchester routes after raining on Monarchs parade. Now we are down to Just three budget airlines and limited services from Thomas Cook and Tui.

 

[mikebeaches]

Must say, I'm slightly miffed by Ryanair's new hand luggage policy. Generally I'm quite a fan of the airline, likewise easyJet too. They both offer an excellent network of routes from our local airport, three miles from home.

In recent times we have paid Ryanair an extra £20 per person, per sector, for the privilege of increased legroom in the overwing emergency exit seats in the middle of the plane. So an additional £80 return for the two of us. But with the inclusion of speedy-boarding, at least it guaranteed our hand luggage could be stowed in the cabin, which is important to us. We travel with hand luggage only for convenience - no waiting at the belt, no risk of losing stuff and just less luggage to mess around with on arrival - it works for us.

BUT, with the new policy, the airline now wants an extra £6 each, per sector, to guarantee the hand luggage can be transported in the cabin - so another £24, on top of the £80 for the legroom seats.

However, looking at the big picture - both airlines do offer reasonably good value overall, and allow customers to pick-and-mix the services they want to buy. Twenty-five years ago I used to fly regularly to Scotland on business - circa £350 a time with BA on a little turbo-prop plane (only option available then). Guess that would probably equate to £500-£600 in today's money? And it was a totally unreliable service too - always being cancelled or delayed.

How things have improved - Happy Days!

 

[EuroTrotters]

Must say, I'm slightly miffed by Ryanair's new hand luggage policy. Generally I'm quite a fan of the airline, likewise easyJet too. They both offer an excellent network of routes from our local airport, three miles from home.

In recent times we have paid Ryanair an extra £20 per person, per sector, for the privilege of increased legroom in the overwing emergency exit seats in the middle of the plane. So an additional £80 return for the two of us. But with the inclusion of speedy-boarding, at least it guaranteed our hand luggage could be stowed in the cabin, which is important to us. We travel with hand luggage only for convenience - no waiting at the belt, no risk of losing stuff and just less luggage to mess around with on arrival - it works for us.

BUT, with the new policy, the airline now wants an extra £6 each, per sector, to guarantee the hand luggage can be transported in the cabin - so another £24, on top of the £80 for the legroom seats.

However, looking at the big picture - both airlines do offer reasonably good value overall, and allow customers to pick-and-mix the services they want to buy. Twenty-five years ago I used to fly regularly to Scotland on business - circa £350 a time with BA on a little turbo-prop plane (only option available then). Guess that would probably equate to £500-£600 in today's money? And it was a totally unreliable service too - always being cancelled or delayed.

How things have improved - Happy Days!

Thanks Mike.

Its just mad is it not?.

I was talking with some Pilots and Crew who are Friends who worked for Monarch. One has just left to work for Qatar Airlines, the other two lost their jobs. One still looking, the other, with 40 years in the air now works for a Civilian bolt on to the RAF.

We were comparing how last year, Manchester - Spain/Portugal flights could be easily booked for anything from £9 to £49 each way. Now, prices are more £100 and up. With Jet2 benefitting enormously from Monarchs Demise. Even Easyjets fares vastly increased. Many days this month, you could not even get a direct flight from Manchester due to reduced capacity.

The word is. It will take up-to two years for the "others" to expand and newcomers to make plans and maybe bases.

I noticed in the news, Primera Air, the Nordic Budget Airline is starting a Manchester - Malaga route.

TM

 

[Minxy]

I've never flown ... ever ... the closes I've come to a plane is when looking round an aircraft museum! Doesn't sound like I'm missing anything!

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[mikebeaches]

Thanks Mike.

Its just mad is it not?.

I was talking with some Pilots and Crew who are Friends who worked for Monarch. One has just left to work for Qatar Airlines, the other two lost their jobs. One still looking, the other, with 40 years in the air now works for a Civilian bolt on to the RAF.

We were comparing how last year, Manchester - Spain/Portugal flights could be easily booked for anything from £9 to £49 each way. Now, prices are more £100 and up. With Jet2 benefitting enormously from Monarchs Demise. Even Easyjets fares vastly increased. Many days this month, you could not even get a direct flight from Manchester due to reduced capacity.

The word is. It will take up-to two years for the "others" to expand and newcomers to make plans and maybe bases.

I noticed in the news, Primera Air, the Nordic Budget Airline is starting a Manchester - Malaga route.

TM

Interesting, and yes prices have certainly increased in the last year. But we haven't been so badly affected by the Monarch collapse, because they didn't fly from Bristol.

We're going to Pisa on Easter Saturday (this weekend) and the flights are costing £100 each return, with extra legroom, on easyJet - which for the peak holiday date, thought wasn't bad. Mind I did book them the moment they were released.

But we've also got easyJet flights to Mallorca in mid-May (ie outside peak holidays) and they're costing about £230 each, and again, booked as soon as they went on sale. Weird?

Guess some routes are more popular than others...

 

[mikebeaches]

I've never flown ... ever ... the closes I've come to a plane is when looking round an aircraft museum! Doesn't sound like I'm missing anything!

Oh I don't know...

And I thought I was late to flying - first time was at the ripe old age of 20. My then girlfriend, now mrs mikebeaches, had been loads of times a s teenager.

Presume you've never fancied it?

For us it's just cheap, quick and convenient (up to a point). Yes, you need to be mentally prepared to go through the airport experience, but we have various strategies to make it as pain-free as possible.

 

[tonyidle]

I've never flown ... ever ... the closes I've come to a plane is when looking round an aircraft museum! Doesn't sound like I'm missing anything!

You're not alone. I have flown twice: once from Blackpool to IoM & back in 1965 and once to Cyprus for daughters wedding (no choice really). Even for the simple Cyprus flight the airports 'cattle herding' annoyed the Hell out of me. I would not willingly do it again. (by the way the table has gone ).

 

[Minxy]

... by the way the table has gone

Ha! Didn't last long then! What did you put in it's place?

 

[Minxy]

Oh I don't know...

And I thought I was late to flying - first time was at the ripe old age of 20. My then girlfriend, now mrs mikebeaches, had been loads of times a s teenager.

Presume you've never fancied it?

With 5 dogs to look after for many years going abroad for a holiday wasn't possible as we didn't want to leave them or put them in kennels as they were rescues ... in fact we did try putting 2 in kennels once and had to come home the following day due to a problem with the camper (clutch bearing went) and found that one of them had had a stroke which the kennels hadn't noticed!

Even getting away for a weekend meant getting in a dog sitter, it wasn't until we got an old camper, then converted an ambulance, that we really managed to get any holidays ... we're trying to make up for it now though!

So flying ... doesn't interest me at all ... I'd much rather be away in my camper.

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[jongood]

We must have more posts moaning about Ryanair than any other airline, and then the succession of tips from people trying to make it all a little less crappy mostly because its the only choice because they drive other companies out by their disgraceful tactics.

I have had no alternative than to book a ryanair flight for my wife this summer and I hate giving them money. Horrible horrible company!

 

[stewartwebr]

It seems most people are now paying for priority boarding. Therefore, little has changed with regard to overhead locker capacity, just as many bags.
Priority boarding in terms of getting on the plane first is a joke in both Edinburgh and Las Palmas. The only priority is getting you onto the bus which takes you to the aircraft.
With regard to seat allocation, we book extra legroom seats on row 16 or 17 as row 1 means you are constantly disturbed by the people waiting to access the toilet. After take off its a complete joke with most of the passangers moving seats. It annoys me when someone moves next to me when they have not paid for extra leg room.
I now book the middle seat and mark it as extra space seat and show the ticket for it to anyone looking to sit on it.

 

[funflair]

We must have more posts moaning about Ryanair than any other airline, and then the succession of tips from people trying to make it all a little less crappy mostly because its the only choice because they drive other companies out by their disgraceful tactics.

I have had no alternative than to book a ryanair flight for my wife this summer and I hate giving them money. Horrible horrible company!

Are you booking her a "one way" Jon.

Martin

 

[Ivory55]

With all the extras for boarding etc is it still cheaper then other airlines to fly with them ? I have no idea as never use a plane.

 

[mikebeaches]

With 5 dogs to look after for many years going abroad for a holiday wasn't possible as we didn't want to leave them or put them in kennels as they were rescues ... in fact we did try putting 2 in kennels once and had to come home the following day due to a problem with the camper (clutch bearing went) and found that one of them had had a stroke which the kennels hadn't noticed!

Even getting away for a weekend meant getting in a dog sitter, it wasn't until we got an old camper, then converted an ambulance, that we really managed to get any holidays ... we're trying to make up for it now though!

So flying ... doesn't interest me at all ... I'd much rather be away in my camper.

Ah, of course the dogs - I'd forgotten, but that does of course make complete sense.

We love travelling in the camper too, but occasionally also like doing other things and sometimes travelling to places it's less practical to go in the van.

New plan for us, we're intending to leave the van garaged in Spain next winter and fly down to use it whenever we can. Have sussed out suitable secure indoor storage a couple of miles from Alicante airport and were impressed when we visited last month. So I feel a few more Ryanair and easyJet trips coming on. Between them, they do three flights a day to Alicante from our local airport.

We've often considered going, as many Funsters do, for the whole winter, but for various reasons it's not really practical for us to be away more than about four or five weeks at a time. And generally the van just sits in the cold and rain at home, which isn't particularly healthy for it, so it seemed like a good idea worth trying.

Motor insurance was an issue we needed to resolve, because some companies won't provide cover. But that's in hand now.

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[tonyidle]

Ha! Didn't last long then! What did you put in it's place?

This:

 

[mikebeaches]

We must have more posts moaning about Ryanair than any other airline, and then the succession of tips from people trying to make it all a little less crappy mostly because its the only choice because they drive other companies out by their disgraceful tactics.

I have had no alternative than to book a ryanair flight for my wife this summer and I hate giving them money. Horrible horrible company!

Obviously, everybody is entitled to their own view.

Our first ever Ryanair flight was in the year 2000, from Stansted to Carcasonne, France - and they screwed up in both directions. In fact the flight back was cancelled and we had to wait four days to get seats home! And of course, at the time, we said "Never again". And they weren't too impressed when I rang the office and said I wouldn't be back at work until the end of the week because I was stuck in the South of France.

But times change, and the airline set up a large base at our local airport. Over the years we've had some amazing travels facilitated by them at knock down prices. Yes, you need to keep up with the periodic adjustments they make to their 'rules', but their flights tend to be prompt and the service OK.

Back in 2009 we had a week's holiday on the Costa del Sol with flights to Malaga a penny each way, including taxes and charges - so the princely sum of 4 pence for two returns all in! We did the same for a day trip to Dublin too - 4p. Obviously, those days have long gone, though it's still occasionally possible to fly for under a tenner each way.

As a company they've had a major c$$ck-up in the last twelve months, with thousands of flights cancelled because of their pilot rosters - thankfully we dodged that bullet. But provided they've learned their lesson on that, then we'll keep using them when it suits.

 

[buttons]

Thank you for the reply.

Slightly contradicts your opening sentence?.

Yes, I take on-board your opinion. We are not all one size fits all. If I had more time, I would always drive and probably in the motorhome.

I used to love flying, I could get on an Aeroplane and fly anywhere anytime and I did it for many years. Then one day, out of the blue I had an incident that saw me not flying (in a an Airplane) for more than 10 years. It took me some time to get back on one again and it was not easy and I am not a nervous or nimby person. I Usually just get on with things.

But I have to sit next to my Grandson as, I may have to administer his medications.

And in the whole grand scheme of things. Considering what We spend on travel alone every year. A few £22's are nothing.

Especially at the moment as the cost of Direct flights from Manchester have rocketed due to the loss of Monarch. That and Norwegian and Vueling quit Many Manchester routes after raining on Monarchs parade. Now we are down to Just three budget airlines and limited services from Thomas Cook and Tui.

We used Tui recently, I don't remember any of the complex booking arrangements you are referring too with Ryanair. Booked tickets and seats together, I think there was a small charge for booking the seats early. Included 20kg hold luggage plus normal overhead bag. Booking my flight late the extra legroom seats had already gone but the Tui service was excellent...

 

[buttons]

This:

We all have them but not really appropriate for a week or two in the sun..

 

[EuroTrotters]

With all the extras for boarding etc is it still cheaper then other airlines to fly with them ? I have no idea as never use a plane.

Not really, these days its about dates and availability. I used to get 10% Discount with Monarch and always paid extra to fly with them.

I can still get 5% with Thomas Cook but could not fly on the dates they do (Well we could of, at £25pp one way but our Daughter and Son-In-Law did not want our 6 and 9 year olds to take 2 days off school. Then after we booked it with Ryanair at £130pp one way, the School closed for 3 days for a bit of bloody snow).

We are even flying to Valencia and getting our car transferred as we could not get to Alicante .

As I said, many days, Manchester-Alicante is SOLD Out way in advance. Stag and Hens I am told will still pay high Prices.

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[tonyidle]

We all have them but not really appropriate for a week or two in the sun..

Sorry it was a thread hi-jack and aimed at @Minxy Girl. Not intended as an aeroplane replacement .

 

[EuroTrotters]

Well I have spent the last 3 hours trying to sort an online check in.

After trying endlessly to get through on the telephone, I did but the person on the other ends command of english was very poor.

So, I have carried out an online chat. Apparently due to a another glitch in Ryanairs software, the Leprechauns have made an error. We cannot book the little ones in online for the return leg. We have to do this at the airport and that it will be free and not the standard £110 charges. So I asked for a transcript of the chat to prove this.

 

[EuroTrotters]

We all have them but not really appropriate for a week or two in the sun..

`Looks like our old frankia

 

[tonyidle]

`Looks like our old frankia

2012 Le Voyageur.

 

[EuroTrotters]

Very Nice! V6?

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