Reversing camera on my 2020 Swift Kon-Tiki suddenly stopped working while I was driving. When parked up I took out the fuse and inspected it visually and that seems AOK. It is fuse 51 according to the FIAT handbook. That said I don't know if the reversing camera/mirror was a FIAT fit or a Swift fit. Any ideas on how to fix welcome.
Reversing Camera Failure - Any Ideas why?
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Daft question but will ask.
Is it a reversing camera activated ONLY when reverse gear engaged, or can it be used as a rear view mirror when travelling, as mine is, but it's a non specific retro fit.
If it only functions when in reverse gear mode, I would check the electrical connection to the rear reversing lights, which is where mine was taking its power feed from.
I have subsequently modified mine to operate as a constant rear view camera but it now takes a power scource from my cigarette socket.
Hope it helps.
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It is as reversing camera when reversing and the rest of the time a rear view camera which switches to reversing camera automatically when reverse is engaged.
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The rear view monitor isn't Fiat factory. The camera won't be either because it's a coachbuild. It's possible that the wiring (and hence fuses) are patched into the Fiat loom, but they would have had to extend it. It's more likely that the camera and screen are completely independent of the Fiat gubbins.
Cameras often fail due to water ingress, so check that first. Fuses might be blown, but I'm not sure where you'll find the fuse box. It used to be the case that reversing cameras were fine for reversing, but they quickly overheated if they were used as a permanent rear view.
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The moniter has its own fuse and the power for the camera may, or may not come from that, and they may have fitted a fuse where they have taken the power from, plus a fuse on the reverse system. So potentially you have up to four fuses on the camera system.
Do you get any light/noises from the monitor at all?
Do you get any light/noises from the monitor at all?
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We have the same reversing camera display as you, though our Swift is a lot older!
Don‘t know if this helps but I uploaded to the resources section a Swift wiring diagram from 2006 which does show the reversing camera wiring. Don‘t know if it’s any help to you but might give you an idea of where the wires from the camera and display go and ‘hook’ in to the 12v/fuse location.
Had a quick look at my display and the wiring disappears behind the dashboard and I assume the fuse box as I can’t see any wires at the front.
Good luck - if you find the fault would be nice to know what it is just in case it happens to us.
Don‘t know if this helps but I uploaded to the resources section a Swift wiring diagram from 2006 which does show the reversing camera wiring. Don‘t know if it’s any help to you but might give you an idea of where the wires from the camera and display go and ‘hook’ in to the 12v/fuse location.
Had a quick look at my display and the wiring disappears behind the dashboard and I assume the fuse box as I can’t see any wires at the front.
Good luck - if you find the fault would be nice to know what it is just in case it happens to us.
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Not sure it applies, but we had a similar thing happening to us when our reversing cam died some time ago and the nearby garage folks told us they could see power to the wiring going from the radio going up the rear wall, but as the wiring was built into the wall from there and required some serious dismantling, they recommended us taking it to our dealer as it would imply some serious work - as well as cost - and as it's a one year old MH it's under warranty.
As we are a little too far away from our dealer we opted to get a Garmin sat nav combined with a BC40 wireless cam, fitted to the bike rack it works pretty well, not as well as the original cam but well enough until we can get the MH to the dealer for repairs.
As we are a little too far away from our dealer we opted to get a Garmin sat nav combined with a BC40 wireless cam, fitted to the bike rack it works pretty well, not as well as the original cam but well enough until we can get the MH to the dealer for repairs.
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It's possible Swift are using that circuit for the power source. But it's clearly not blown or you'd have lost powered steering.
There's either additional fuses they've added further downstream, or they've linked into a completely different circuit.
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I had a dealer fitted reversing camera ( works automatically when reverse selected) for rear view I have to press a button on the actual mirror.
It went wrong driving in horrendous weather last March, the image flickered between the two.
When I got to warmth I sealed the feeds going in with insulating tape that worked OK.
When I got back to the UK I had to take the Mo Ho back to the dealer about something else but asked them just to have a look at it, they told me no evidence of water ingress but it could have been condensation.They resealed the entry points with sealant. Not had the problem since.
I would have thought the entry points for the cables would have been self sealing with the grommets but who knows?
Worth a look. By the way, mines the same system
It went wrong driving in horrendous weather last March, the image flickered between the two.
When I got to warmth I sealed the feeds going in with insulating tape that worked OK.
When I got back to the UK I had to take the Mo Ho back to the dealer about something else but asked them just to have a look at it, they told me no evidence of water ingress but it could have been condensation.They resealed the entry points with sealant. Not had the problem since.
I would have thought the entry points for the cables would have been self sealing with the grommets but who knows?
Worth a look. By the way, mines the same system
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Have you checked that the fuses on the Sargent PSU are all ok and is there a fuse shown for the camera in the Swift handbook ? . (I believe that fuse 51 in the Fiat cab fuse box shown would only be involved if the camera was a Fiat factory fit item )
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The monitor has its own fuse on the wire loom that comes attached to it. Mine is in the B pillar of the vehicle, so about 1 meter away, and from memory is a very low amp one.
The reverse fuse would only stop it switching which camera it was using.
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Our identical unit keeps conking out and it’s due to a loose cable going into the unit . I fix it by pushing the cable hard back into the unit, then when I restart the engine it is ok again for both the driving camera and reversing one. However after a while and a few bumps it cuts out again. I need to get someone to refit the cable or have the courage to try and fix it ourselves. We have the van in storage and never seem to find the time to investigate it properly. We are pretty useless with anything mechanical or electrical!
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We had the same problem on our 2017 Apache. We traced the power supply back to the fuse box located at the drivers side and found that the live connection wasn‘t connected properly.
So we thought that was it, but no the camera won’t then normally fail when put into revers so traced the reversing wire back from the unit all okay, then decided to trace the camera cables and eventually found the problem with ours. However installed it put two camera connection joints just under the plastic footwell as you step in the van so over time the joint had come loose luckily there was enough cable length to move the joint away from the footwell area and the camera has been perfect since then.
Hope you get your camera fixed.
So we thought that was it, but no the camera won’t then normally fail when put into revers so traced the reversing wire back from the unit all okay, then decided to trace the camera cables and eventually found the problem with ours. However installed it put two camera connection joints just under the plastic footwell as you step in the van so over time the joint had come loose luckily there was enough cable length to move the joint away from the footwell area and the camera has been perfect since then.
Hope you get your camera fixed.
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I have exactly the same mirror, which works in reverse gear and as a rear view while driving. It was wired that way in the factory. Recently it suddenly stopped working as a rear view while driving. I went through the whole procedure of checking wiring and fuses with no luck. Then pressed one of the buttons on the right of the mirror and, hey presto, all working. It seems that the display is switched by selecting reverse gear, as expected, but the switch on the mirror puts it in constant rear view mode. Why it switched itself off mid-trip I don't know.
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Had the same issue on the same device.... There's a plug and socket behind the roof trim and pulling the front blinds closed unplugs it when it hits the cable where it passes through the blind cut-out for the mirror. Pull some spare cable into the space above and just plug back in.
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You can program the action from within the setup menu I think (from memory)
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We’ve had camera issue on our current and previous van. Both times under warranty and both times the dealer just switched out the camera. The mechanic said they don’t bother messing about anymore and just switch them because 99% of the time it’s a camera fault rather than wiring or fuses etc. I guess a camera replacement also solves any sealant issues too when they seal in the new one.
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I have a camera issue different from that discussed so far. Mine is an after-market Camos Jewel V2 with 7 inch mirror monitor.
So one camera lens which shows one angle view for the rear view and then a different angle for the reverse. Had it fitted 5 years ago however only been used for 4k of driving in that 5 years. recently on the last 3 drips it is like the screen will not boot up regardless of rear or reverse view. the screen comes on for a second then goes of for 5 or 6 seconds and then repeats this continuously. I also hear a faint whirring noise as the image comes on for that second only that the image is displayed. so I get an image and whirr for 1 second then nothing for 5 seconds and this repeats continuously. This was the pattern on the first journey that the fault presented of about 1 hour with the symptom. On the second journey the fault presented then it corrected itself after a few minutes. Then oddly the next time it was all fine for about 2 hours then the next and last time we used the motorhome it repeated the flickering sequence with whirring noise for the whole 2 hour trip. then just after we parked up in the storage the view came good again just before I turned the camera off.
Checked terminals and wiring, all connections pushed home really well and I don't think there is any compromise in the power feed which is from the vehicle battery, fused, in the foot well.
Is there a little servo or starter in the monitor/mirror that could be stalling, a bit like a starter for a fluorescent tube? or a bit like TVs used to be years ago when they were in square boxes and had tubes?
So one camera lens which shows one angle view for the rear view and then a different angle for the reverse. Had it fitted 5 years ago however only been used for 4k of driving in that 5 years. recently on the last 3 drips it is like the screen will not boot up regardless of rear or reverse view. the screen comes on for a second then goes of for 5 or 6 seconds and then repeats this continuously. I also hear a faint whirring noise as the image comes on for that second only that the image is displayed. so I get an image and whirr for 1 second then nothing for 5 seconds and this repeats continuously. This was the pattern on the first journey that the fault presented of about 1 hour with the symptom. On the second journey the fault presented then it corrected itself after a few minutes. Then oddly the next time it was all fine for about 2 hours then the next and last time we used the motorhome it repeated the flickering sequence with whirring noise for the whole 2 hour trip. then just after we parked up in the storage the view came good again just before I turned the camera off.
Checked terminals and wiring, all connections pushed home really well and I don't think there is any compromise in the power feed which is from the vehicle battery, fused, in the foot well.
Is there a little servo or starter in the monitor/mirror that could be stalling, a bit like a starter for a fluorescent tube? or a bit like TVs used to be years ago when they were in square boxes and had tubes?
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We have the same system and it kept failing. On our 'van the power and camera connections are under the top dashboard cover on the passenger side. Be extra careful here because the passenger air bag is also situated here. I traced the power connections to the fuse box, drivers side. On mine someone??? had removed the spade connector and taped it up??? When did that happen! Anyway discovered power here so to the top of the dash. On mine a thinnish green wire is the reverse trigger. So, I cut this and used a 3 way wiring "thingy" that joins the power to the reversing trigger. I can now see to reverse and use a different camera to use as a rear view mirror. I found before all this that the screen would show reversing but not long view and pressing the button would do but not always!!
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We have the same system and it keeps failing. On our 'van the power and camera connections are under the top dashboard cover on the passenger side. Be extra careful here because the passenger air bag is also situated here. I traced the power connections
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That only applies if Fiat fitted the camera. Given you have a C class that will not be the case. Was it fitted by Swift or the dealer who sold it or was it an after market fit?
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It is possible you have a www.sargentltd.co.uk camera system fitted , along with their other electrical systems , and you may have their duel camera interface ( EM5.6 ) fitted somewhere linking their RV207 camera and mirror monitor. If so , they should be able to help if you contact them (they are normally very helpful and may be able to suggest a possible cause of the problem)
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In that case it will be Swift who fitted it so you should be looking at the Swift manual, not the Fiat one, to see where they have put the fuse.
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