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SWMBO won't go anywhere without her Dyson Air-wrap which I believe is about 1300-1600W, not a problem when we are on EHU. However I would like to try wandering through Europe parking in places where EHU will not be available. I was looking into buying a power bank and noticed VTOMAN have a Jump2200 standalone for 569.00 and with a 220w solar panel for 779.00 of our English pounds. An ECOFlow Delta2 similar setup is 948.00
Anyone have experience of either and how long I am likely to get running the Dyson on it? (I will of course be running other stuff off it but as far as swmbo is concerned it's to dry her hair) :tounge:
 
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Stephen180 said:
SWMBO won't go anywhere without her Dyson Air-wrap which I believe is about 1300-1600W, not a problem when we are on EHU. However I would like to try wandering through Europe parking in places where EHU will not be available. I was looking into buying a power bank and noticed VTOMAN have a Jump2200 standalone for 569.00 and with a 220w solar panel for 779.00 of our English pounds. An ECOFlow Delta2 similar setup is 948.00
Anyone have experience of either and how long I am likely to get running the Dyson on it? (I will of course be running other stuff off it but as far as swmbo is concerned it's to dry her hair) :tounge:
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If you join ACSI the listed sites are cheap and EHU is included 👍

Seems a better way than spending hundreds to power 1 thing 😊
 
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Hi, I have not long come back from a 6 week tour of France & Spain with my new Ecoflow delta 2. I charge it up whilst driving using the cigarette lighter switch or via portable solar panel .
I use my Dyson hairdryer , 1000 watt air fryer , kettle (saves gas) and best of all my electric blanket as it was cold of an evening .
Never used ECu the whole time despite staying on a lovely campsite in Fortuna as ECu was extra.
I experimented using the equipment in the house and it also powered by 800 watt Microwave and my Miele hoover in the van!

I bought it from Costco (Black Friday deal) and portable solar panels from eco worthy on Amazon.
yes i could have bought a lithium battery but at present this suits my needs as I am not electrical minded and can use it in my garden as a portable power pack.
If you search you will find a few threads on the subject

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Stephen180 said:
SWMBO won't go anywhere without her Dyson Air-wrap which I believe is about 1300-1600W, not a problem when we are on EHU. However I would like to try wandering through Europe parking in places where EHU will not be available. I was looking into buying a power bank and noticed VTOMAN have a Jump2200 standalone for 569.00 and with a 220w solar panel for 779.00 of our English pounds. An ECOFlow Delta2 similar setup is 948.00
Anyone have experience of either and how long I am likely to get running the Dyson on it? (I will of course be running other stuff off it but as far as swmbo is concerned it's to dry her hair) :tounge:
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You are about to go into the dark side, hang on your grey matter is about to be fried.
 
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" ... An ECOFlow Delta 2 similar setup is £948.00 ..."

No way you need to spend that sort of money for the Delta 2 combo. They are readily available from Delta direct via Ebay and elsewhere described as reconditioned for £549 + there is a 220 watt panel on Ebay going for £280 (and another one even cheaper.)

You may want to think carefully about the 220 watt. I have the 160 watt which is, I think, a tad smaller. Just imagine handling the thing in a high wind!. Also you are paying a premium for a bifacial panel but if propped up against the van only one face will work and the rate of reflection off e.g. grass will be nothing like as good as gleaming white concrete! You will pay something like £160 for the 160 watt.

P.S. Ignore the reconditioned bit. They are all brand new. It is just EcoFlows way of keeping their retail price high. You are simply paying the extra for the extended warranty.

Hope that helps!
 
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You can get a lithium set up sorted for less.
Of course u need the skills to set it up.

If not power banks are handy especially if they can be recharged when driving
 
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You're looking at 200w solar, B2B and 200/300ah of lithium for that sort of money, I know which I'd prefer
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But that would be without an inverter. A decent inverter will set you back circa £500 installed (OP says he has no skills) and the whole point, the OP says, is to have 240 volt electrics when off grid.
 
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Long term, a lithium battery and inverter are in my opinion a much better option. We have a Renogy 3000 inverter for over three years, it's been absolutely fine and SWMS also uses a Dyson air wrap ...
 
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Bill-H said:
You're looking at 200w solar, B2B and 200/300ah of lithium for that sort of money, I know which I'd prefer
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I would not want 200/300 Ah of lithium without upgrading solar charger plus mains charger as well as a decent B2B. And then there is installation of an inverter on top. True you could install in stages but without DIY skills the total cost will soon mount up.

My longer term plan with one solar panel on the roof is 100 Ah of lithium plus B2B and keep the Delta 2 and 160 watt panel for off grid mains use.

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But that would be without an inverter. A decent inverter will set you back circa £500 installed (OP says he has no skills) and the whole point, the OP says, is to have 240 volt electrics when off grid.
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Does the OP's £580 first suggestion contain £500
worth of 'decent inverter'? He wants to run a hair drier
 
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Bill-H said:
Does the OP's £580 first suggestion contain £500
worth of 'decent inverter'? He wants to run a hair drier
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The Delta 2 contains a decent inverter - from memory 1200 watt and will cope with 1800 watt peaks and the installation cost is zero. And it has a bank of 4 x 240V three pin sockets plus some USBs.
As we both know a basic inverter installation has several add-ons that can bump up the price. At its simplest it is wired to one or two dedicated sockets which will be separate from the existing 240 volt mains sockets. Facilities so that all existing sockets run from the inverter and other "bells and whistles" will add to the cost.

Undoubtedly a full LiFEPo4 system is superior and with a modern new van should be planned from the start and, ideally, added soon after purchase (Usually much cheaper than adding it to the manufacture or dealer's spec) but for older vans the cost/benefit analysis is not so clear cut. Total install cost for a full system especially if you have no DIY skills can be disproportionate and if you might end up selling the van and buying something superior you will lose out as you will not recover the full cost on sale (though it will likely make the van a more attractive proposition to buyers) But then you have to start again on a new van with a new install.

So it is horses for courses.

P.S. The OP's principle reason for going down this route is to run a hair dryer but as his original post makes clear it will have other uses.
 
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PlacidoD said:
The Delta 2 contains a decent inverter - from memory 1200 watt and will cope with 1800 watt peaks and the installation cost is zero. And it has a bank of 4 x 240V three pin sockets plus some USBs.
As we both know a basic inverter installation has several add-ons that can bump up the price. At its simplest it is wired to one or two dedicated sockets which will be separate from the existing 240 volt mains sockets. Facilities so that all existing sockets run from the inverter and other "bells and whistles" will add to the cost.

Undoubtedly a full LiFEPo4 system is superior and with a modern new van should be planned from the start and, ideally, added soon after purchase (Usually much cheaper than adding it to the manufacture or dealer's spec) but for older vans the cost/benefit analysis is not so clear cut. Total install cost for a full system especially if you have no DIY skills can be disproportionate and if you might end up selling the van and buying something superior you will lose out as you will not recover the full cost on sale (though it will likely make the van a more attractive proposition to buyers) But then you have to start again on a new van with a new install.

So it is horses for courses.

P.S. The OP's principle reason for going down this route is to run a hair dryer but as his original post makes clear it will have other uses.
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A 1200 watt continuous 1800 watt peak inverter will not cope with running a continuous 1300-1600 watt drain hairdryer.
 
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And any decent hairdryer will have various heat settings as will any microwave. So put it on 80% or similar. And if it only has one heat setting you can buy a new one for £15.00 or less!
Next to nobody uses a 3kw kettle in their MoHo. You cough up for something with more modest power consumption. The same can apply to hairdryers.

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PlacidoD said:
And any decent hairdryer will have various heat settings as will any microwave. So put it on 80% or similar. And if it only has one heat setting you can buy a new one for £15.00 or less!
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Best practice with inverters is to not run them for any length of time at more than about 75% of their continuous rating.
So for a 1200 watt max inverter that is about 900 watts.
What is the point of having an inverter that won't cope with what you want to run off it unless you turn the appliance right down.
 
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PlacidoD said:
And any decent hairdryer will have various heat settings as will any microwave. So put it on 80% or similar. And if it only has one heat setting you can buy a new one for £15.00 or less!
Next to nobody uses a 3kw kettle in their MoHo. You cough up for something with more modest power consumption. The same can apply to hairdryers.
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Don't know what the consumption of the Dyson the op referred to is but that particular one is the sole purpose of asking what he needs to power it
 
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From the OP

" ... (I will of course be running other stuff off it but as far as swmbo is concerned it's to dry her hair)"

Given the price of the darn thing I expect she is as wedded to it as she is to the OP! So she will just have to turn it down a notch when not on EHU (It will not be on very long?)

P.S. The prospect of marital disharmony if the darn thing completely drains the leisure battery means that a stand alone system makes sense!!!
 
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Power banks have their niche..those on a limited budget with limited needs. Kind of a half way house between old(la no solar) and new lithium.Forthose unable (and in today's world unwilling to learn..U tube various forums) to fit themselves

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There are 2 brand new 180w solar panels in the clasified for £120, a 60A B2B for £75 and 2 x 100 LiFePo4 batteries for another £150. Add (say) £250 for a reasonable quality inverter and the OP is left with £350 from from the price of his higher-priced powerpack (£948) to get it installed (half a day's work for a sparkie?) Won't need to keep finding a main supply to charge it back up and less time running the engine for the same reason. A much better option for the OP's off grid use I'd sugest.
 
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yorkiebar said:
Half a day to fit all that including solar? Don't think so 😅
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And you have got to find and trust the sparkie! I don't know one and maybe the OP is in a similar position.
Equally he may not have the skills to distinguish compatible components of quality from chancers selling rubbish.
 
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Burge said:
Refurbished though ??? Not as long Warranty I got 5yrs with the Bluetti
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Check the threads on here to see 'refurbished' from EcoFlow is just a way to undercut the likes of Amazon pricing... etc
Just think it's a better buy than VTOman

Full disclosure, I'm an Anker Powerbank owner

Never will self install Lithium system owners agree that a self contained powerbank could be a better buy.
 
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Stephen180 said:
An ECOFlow Delta2 similar setup is 948.00
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Wait until a sale, they are quite often £500 on Black Friday or at Costco for a LOT less, like £600 I think we tracked on here.
The knock off batteries are from experience not as good (except Anker who ARE good). Allpowers unit we got before the Ecoflow lasted 13 months (1 beyond warranty) and died. Ecoflow is used even more than the Allpowers was.

Allpowers/VTOman/random Aliexpres imports are not good quality typically.
 
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