Peugeot/Fiat sliding door midway stop

[Deck]

Hi, Has anyone managed to stop the sliding door on a Peugeot/Fiat panel van conversion in the midway position, I have read several threads relating to this on this and another forum, ranging from sticking a cork in the appropriate place.using velcro tape plus a few other suggestions, but I would like to do something a bit more permanent if poss. I have made an aluminium wedge similar to the one used at the end of the doors travel and this works fine in stopping the door from travelling forward but even with a second fitted about 20mm apart but in the opposite direction the part that is retracted by the door handle just rides over the top. I have seen on amazon a part available by EuroCarry advertised as a door stopper for Ducato from 2006 this would be an easy enough part to make however I can't see that it would be in any way different to the part that I have already made ie ... would only stop the door from sliding forward and not stop the door from sliding back. It is important for me to be able to have the option of stopping the door midway as well as allowing the door to be fully open.
Any advice would be very much appreciated.
Regards Deck

 

[Mikeco]

It’s quite easy to do, just screw a plastic modesty block in the appropriate place on the bottom track, you will have to drill a hole and use a self tapping screw To go past it you lift the door handle up and it will then bump against it on the way back.
I will try to find a picture I took of it last year or you may find the thread if you search.

 

[Mikeco]

 

[Deck]

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Thanks for your reply and apologies for the double thread, will try and delete one of them if poss.
I have tried something very similar to your mod but this would only stop the door sliding forward so if the van is slightly front high the door continues slides back to the fully open position because the part at the other end of the door handle cable automatically retracts and rides other to the new " door stop " . This is the case with my 2012 Autosleeper soon to be replaced with a 2018 Auto-trail V Line, which of course may be different but I am assuming it would be the same.
Deck

 

[Mikeco]

Thanks for your reply and apologies for the double thread, will try and delete one of them if poss.
I have tried something very similar to your mod but this would only stop the door sliding forward so if the van is slightly front high the door continues slides back to the fully open position because the part at the other end of the door handle cable automatically retracts and rides other to the new " door stop " . This is the case with my 2012 Autosleeper soon to be replaced with a 2018 Auto-trail V Line, which of course may be different but I am assuming it would be the same.
Deck

You put another stop further down to prevent the door opening fully, you can see it in the photo, this all works for me.

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[Deck]

You put another stop further down to prevent the door opening fully, you can see it in the photo, this all works for me.

Thanks again, hoping that this will work on the new van -- picking up ( hopefully ) at the end of April.

 

[Minxy]

You put another stop further down to prevent the door opening fully, you can see it in the photo, this all works for me.

How does that stop the door 'riding over' the block though if the front is higher than the back? I had a block on ours and found the same as the OP - it stops the sliding door from sliding forward but not sliding back ...

 

[gerry mcg]

You need a stopsy
From Germany and not cheap but works. I've got one fitted

http://wohnmobil-caravan-zubehoer-s...y-Tuerstopper-Kastenwagen-Schiebetuer::1.html

 

[Mikeco]

How does that stop the door 'riding over' the block though if the front is higher than the back? I had a block on ours and found the same as the OP - it stops the sliding door from sliding forward but not sliding back ...

Once you have opened the door by lifting up the handle let it go before it reaches the block, I did have double blocks in that position originally but one broke up but now works on the one.

 

[Minxy]

Once you have opened the door by lifting up the handle let it go before it reaches the block, I did have double blocks in that position originally but one broke up but now works on the one.

That's what I do with ours - I wonder if I need a 'deeper' block ... this is my version:

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[Deneb]

An American company make a very nice aluminium wedge sliding door stop for various vans including the Dodge Promaster (Sevel Ducato/Relay/Boxer equivalent).

http://www.nortonfab.com/?product=sprinter-van-door-stop

Unfortunately it works out at near £50 with shipping and import duty. A tennis ball is just the right size to fit in the lower track either in front or behind of the guide bracket depending on which way the ground is sloping, allows an infinite variation on door positions and is considerably cheaper!

 

[Deck]

I have tried the plastic blocks and packed one of them to the max but still will not stop the door sliding back. I like the idea of the German Stopsy and the American aluminium wedge but not to keen on spending that amount of money on it, but it might be possible to make something similar, will look at it again when I've got the new van. If not it will be the trusty old tennis ball ..... .

 

[Minxy]

We've used a tennis ball before but they can get quite dirty and/or the dog nicks them! Trying to stick it in is a pain too so might have to see if I can devise one that I can put on the end of a piece of L-shaped pipe so I can just pop it in/take it out easier ... might also discourage the dog if she gets a mush full of metal!

 

[Mikeco]

What are you both doing wrong, my call out fee is £100 plus the price of the block.

 

[Minxy]

What are you both doing wrong, my call out fee is £100 plus the price of the block.

Okay clever knickers ... tell us how you stop it going 'over' the block in BOTH directions!

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[vin0114]

I always sleep badly if the van is not level but when unable to get it level I use a stop for the sliding door with a bunjie strap to keep the door against the stop.

 

[Mikeco]

Okay clever knickers ... tell us how you stop it going 'over' the block in BOTH directions!

It will cost you £100 as you already have your own block.
Okay then, on mine the mechanism at the end of the lift up handle hits the block and stays there, the only way to go past the block is to move it out of the way by lifting the handle.
By the way if you make a booking after October 1 the call out fee increases to £1000 as I will have to travel from Spain.

 

[Minxy]

It will cost you £100 as you already have your own block.
Okay then, on mine the mechanism at the end of the lift up handle hits the block and stays there, the only way to go past the block is to move it out of the way by lifting the handle.
By the way if you make a booking after October 1 the call out fee increases to £1000 as I will have to travel from Spain.

But is that BOTH ways, or only forwards when partially closing the door? We want a way of stopping the door opening more than we want to ... does yours do that?

 

[Mikeco]

But is that BOTH ways, or only forwards when partially closing the door? We want a way of stopping the door opening more than we want to ... does yours do that?

Yes by adding a second block further along which you can see on the photo. You can stop the door wherever you want to.

 

[Minxy]

Yes by adding a second block further along which you can see on the photo. You can stop the door wherever you want to.

No, I'm not on about different distances .. can it stop it moving on it's own backwards over the block, or just forwards ... if we're on a bit of a slope backwards the block will not prevent the door sliding 'down-hill' backwards over it, only if we are on a slope forwards will it stop it sliding forward.

I can't believe how difficult it is to explain ...

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[Mikeco]

No, I'm not on about different distances .. can it stop it moving on it's own backwards over the block, or just forwards ... if we're on a bit of a slope backwards the block will not prevent the door sliding 'down-hill' backwards over it, only if we are on a slope forwards will it stop it sliding forward.

I can't believe how difficult it is to explain ...

On mine yes in both circumstances, it will not go past the block until the door handle is lifted. Are you sure you would not like to take up my call out offer which has now increased to £200 due to the complexity of the situation.

 

[Minxy]

On mine yes in both circumstances, it will not go past the block until the door handle is lifted. Are you sure you would not like to take up my call out offer which has now increased to £200 due to the complexity of the situation.

Nah ... I want proof first ... a YouTube video will suffice ...

 

[Mikeco]

Nah ... I want proof first ... a YouTube video will suffice ...

I will check it out tomorrow to see how it works as I will be working on the van due to having to replace some of the ceiling lining due to damp caused by a leaking roof light.

 

[Deck]

No, I'm not on about different distances .. can it stop it moving on it's own backwards over the block, or just forwards ... if we're on a bit of a slope backwards the block will not prevent the door sliding 'down-hill' backwards over it, only if we are on a slope forwards will it stop it sliding forward.

I can't believe how difficult it is to explain ...

Like you, no matter how big the block or what ever else you decide on using it will not stop the bit at the end of the cable automatically retracting and sliding over it, the part that I made out of aluminium albeit slightly deeper than the size shown worked perfectly well to prevent the door sliding forward as did the block but not sliding back. The one thing that I have not tried is to minimise the block so it is only the thickness of the black piece of plastic at the end of the cable and maximise the depth so that it only just clears the part that the cable goes through. As Minxy Girl said it is not easy to explain .
I can't imagine that Mikeco's van would be any different to mine or anybody else's for that matter so it can only be a matter of getting the size and positioning correct. Will have another play with it when time permits.

 

[Mikeco]

Still looking at this but been busy today renewing the ceiling that I put in 6 years ago that got damp through a leaking roof light.
I did look and also remembered that the block I had in place broke in two while in Spain over the winter so it is only half a block at the moment.
Will report back and hopefully get two jobs on commission, I can taste the money already.

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[Minxy]

Will report back and hopefully get two jobs on commission, I can taste the money already.

... but only if it can be done both ways .... otherwise you have to pay us!

 

[RogerThat]

Has anyone managed to stop the sliding door on a Peugeot/Fiat panel van conversion in the midway position

I don't know the correct word for it, but the bit of metal (clip?) at the end of the track that currently holds the door in the fully open position, and keeps it open, why don't you just buy another identical one of those from Fiat Spares / Pug Spares and attach it further up the track where you need it?

 

[Minxy]

I don't know the correct word for it, but the bit of metal (clip?) at the end of the track that currently holds the door in the fully open position, and keeps it open, why don't you just buy another identical one of those from Fiat Spares / Pug Spares and attach it further up the track where you need it?

That's a possibility but the blocks do work for a fraction of the cost, it's the backwards motion of the door we are trying to stop and even a Fiat part won't prevent that.

 

[RogerThat]

Hmm...

it's the backwards motion of the door we are trying to stop and even a Fiat part won't prevent that

Would it not?

It stops the door currently, albeit at it's further point backwards / fully open? Or is there something else that also stops the door opening past its max point? I've not examined it fully and it's a bit dark out there now

I'm sure that clip would only cost a few quid too.

 

[Minxy]

Hmm...

It stops the door currently, albeit at it's further point backwards / fully open? Or is there something else that also stops the door opening past its max point? I've not examined it fully and it's a bit dark out there now

I'm sure that clip would only cost a few quid too.

From memory I think the door runner end turns inwards or finishes so it can't go any further back ... its cold outside so I'm not gonna go out and have a shuftie now.

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