Payloads

[Bailey 15]

Just out of curiosity
Why is it when watching u tubers or any sales of motorhomes they never ( or hardly ever) mention Payloads?

Last nite I was watching u tube couple go around vans at NEC and not once did they mention payloads
It’s really important do just wandered

 

[peterc10]

Just out of curiosity
Why is it when watching u tubers or any sales of motorhomes they never ( or hardly ever) mention Payloads?

Last nite I was watching u tube couple go around vans at NEC and not once did they mention payloads
It’s really important do just wandered

They don't want to ask because they know they will not like the answer. Called head in the sand.

 

[68c]

Perhaps ALL motorhomes should be required to have an external plate listing empty and max weight. Would concentrate all our minds particularly when buying, new or used.

 

[Jim]

The NCC could stipulate a minimum payload for a van to be approved. Rather, in effect they say "BUYER BEWARE" purchasers should ensure a motorhome has the payload they need. What a copout.

 

[nicholsong]

The NCC could stipulate a minimum payload for a van to be approved. Rather, in effect they say "BUYER BEWARE" purchasers should ensure a motorhome has the payload they need. What a copout.

Maybe buyers from dealers should stipulate the payload they want, so if a dealer sells them one which proves to have less they can reject it as not being fit for purpose.

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[KNWH]

I have always wanted to get our weight checked when we are setting out on a trip, when it is likely to be at a maximum. Unfortunately Mrs KNWH takes so long to load up that there is never time on the day.
The best I could manage was to weigh it after we had got back, weigh everything we’d already unloaded and then add that back in.
So, did a spreadsheet, estimated the rough front/rear bias for items removed, and added two sliders so I could vary the fuel and water loads between 0 and 100%
Setting both fuel and water to 100% the answer came out as…….

……exactly 3500kg!
How weird is that?

Now just need to persuade her that the items we have not used in the 6 years we’ve had the MH could, perhaps, be left behind?
If I never post again you can assume it didn’t go well.

 

[The Artilleryman]

The only way is to get the actual MH weighed and subtract from plated GVW. There are too many variables to be able to state an accurate payload for a given model.

 

[Puddleduck]

Now just need to persuade her that the items we have not used in the 6 years we’ve had the MH could, perhaps, be left behind?
If I never post again you can assume it didn’t go well.

Good luck with that.

 

[Happy Jack]

I have always wanted to get our weight checked when we are setting out on a trip, when it is likely to be at a maximum. Unfortunately Mrs KNWH takes so long to load up that there is never time on the day.
The best I could manage was to weigh it after we had got back, weigh everything we’d already unloaded and then add that back in.
So, did a spreadsheet, estimated the rough front/rear bias for items removed, and added two sliders so I could vary the fuel and water loads between 0 and 100%
Setting both fuel and water to 100% the answer came out as…….

……exactly 3500kg!
How weird is that?

Now just need to persuade her that the items we have not used in the 6 years we’ve had the MH could, perhaps, be left behind?
If I never post again you can assume it didn’t go well.

All based on an estimate that is not accurate but would take a lot longer than going to the weighbridge !
We loaded up and did a dedicated journey to get weighed, then went off on a trip the next day. Much easier.

 

[KNWH]

All based on an estimate that is not accurate but would take a lot longer than going to the weighbridge !
We loaded up and did a dedicated journey to get weighed, then went off on a trip the next day. Much easier.

Well yes, that would have been my preferred method, but it means getting Mrs KNWH to load everything in advance. That is a Utopian state I fear is impossible to achieve

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[68c]

The only way is to get the actual MH weighed and subtract from plated GVW. There are too many variables to be able to state an accurate payload for a given model.

A dated data plated could be fitted, any mods requiring a new plate. Once again this would mean a little thought before embodying the mod.

Of course all this would mean the authorities defining what is empty/unladen weight rather than the wooly DVLA idea. How on earth can you weigh a vehicle with no fuel in it, without knowing exactly how much fuel is onboard and it's specific gravity at that time. Do you know how much fuel your van actually holds? Is that when full on the gauge or when topped up to the filler neck? Is it a 65 or 90 litre tank etc.
How do we deal with older vans, no empty weight stated, manufacturer gone bust.

 

[dunnah01]

Axle weights are more difficult to manage compared to GVW so payload isn't really a good way to measure how much $h1t you can carry