% OVERWEIGHT ALLOWANCE ? (1 Viewer)

[mojo]

Is there a unspoken rule that you get a allowance if overweight before a fine /prosecution. With all our stuff we are 1 % over =35kg.
This could easily be used up with fuel burn and water usage but at some times we would be full up and overweight. I know manufacturers state a 5% under or over on their brochures and some speed limits have a tolerance before prosecution.What about my 1% ?

 

[DanielFord]

I think it is 5% before you get fined, but you will get a warning. You could dump the water, that is roughly 100KG

 

[Ivory55]

They would have to be a bit over the top to nick you for 1% over weight. Mind I have had a weigh Bridge bloke refuse to let me leave because I was 20kg over 44 ton .

 

[gus-lopez]

GRADUATION OF FIXED PENALTY NOTICES
£100 FP -- 5% to 10% or over 1 tonne on axle, gross or train if less than 5%
£200 FP -- Over 10% and up to 15%
£300 FP -- Over 15% and up to 30%
Prosecute over 30% or over 5 tonnes on axle, gross or train if under 30%

NON COMMERCIAL DRIVERS
In genuine cases of ignorance e.g. moving house, and where the offence is unlikely to be
repeated, a prohibition should be issued and an overloading guidance leaflet handed to
the driver. To take into account the Public Interest Test no Fixed Penalty Notice should
be issued in these circumstances.

LINK; https://www.gov.uk/roadside-vehicle-checks-for-commercial-drivers/fixed-penalties

as long as your axle weights are under the plated weights vosa can't touch you.
they wont prosecute on gross weight overloading.

 

[Gellyneck]

You'll need to confirm MIRO is correct if you are just weighing \ estimating the consumables and contents.
Have you taken the loaded vehicle over a weighbridge to confirm you are 1% over or is it a calculated figure?

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[mojo]

Weighbridge a few days ago

 

[WillH]

As above, why have a full water tank? We manage with around 20 - 40 litres plus a few litres for drinking.

 

[Floydster]

Would this help?

how-it-works

 

[mojo]

Yeh ! That helps.Sorted

 

[Tea Bag]

They would have to be a bit over the top to nick you for 1% over weight. Mind I have had a weigh Bridge bloke refuse to let me leave because I was 20kg over 44 ton .

Hi.
Washed coal from Wales '60's,you had to go out 3cwt less than Gross,by the time you got to Lancs/Yorks,you where well under.
Tea Bag

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[Ivory55]

Hi.
Washed coal from Wales '60's,you had to go out 3cwt less than Gross,by the time you got to Lancs/Yorks,you where well under.
Tea Bag

You must of had plenty of customers then, haha

 

[Tea Bag]

You must of had plenty of customers then, haha

Hi.
If you knew where you were tipping out did not have a wieghbridge......... The old ladies in the village never went short of coal in the winter,two or three of us saw to that.
Oh,and there was a hosepipe in the yard...if you were passing loaded.
Tea Bag

 

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[AXO66]

‘as long as your axle weights are under the plated weights vosa can't touch you.
they wont prosecute on gross weight overloading.

thats really interesting.

our axle weights are 1850 front and 2250 rear (4100 kgs, total) yet van is 3500kg so in uk can be a little bit over?

but are the brakes up to it? ( tyres are) cos seem to recall that's an issue the up-platers consider

( most we have been on a weigh-bridge is 3280kgs)

 

[busby]

They would have to be a bit over the top to nick you for 1% over weight. Mind I have had a weigh Bridge bloke refuse to let me leave because I was 20kg over 44 ton .

I had a pal who had an altercation with an NCB weighbridge attendant over a couple of cwt years ago.He pulled tallboard pin and tipped 20 tonne of coal on the weighbridge.Got banned obviously but said it felt great.??
BUSBY.

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[busby]

GRADUATION OF FIXED PENALTY NOTICES
£100 FP -- 5% to 10% or over 1 tonne on axle, gross or train if less than 5%
£200 FP -- Over 10% and up to 15%
£300 FP -- Over 15% and up to 30%
Prosecute over 30% or over 5 tonnes on axle, gross or train if under 30%

NON COMMERCIAL DRIVERS
In genuine cases of ignorance e.g. moving house, and where the offence is unlikely to be
repeated, a prohibition should be issued and an overloading guidance leaflet handed to
the driver. To take into account the Public Interest Test no Fixed Penalty Notice should
be issued in these circumstances.

LINK; https://www.gov.uk/roadside-vehicle-checks-for-commercial-drivers/fixed-penalties

as long as your axle weights are under the plated weights vosa can't touch you.
they wont prosecute on gross weight overloading.

Would not like to risk that..BUSBY.

 

[KUSKUS]

My mate worked for trading standards for 40 years and in conjunction with VOSA he stopped thousands of vehicle during his career but never stopped a single motorhome.
Might be a different story abroad though.

 

[mpdcymru]

My mate worked for trading standards for 40 years and in conjunction with VOSA he stopped thousands of vehicle during his career but never stopped a single motorhome.
Might be a different story abroad though.

I also worked for VOSA for many years and I never weighed amotorhome either - but, I did know a couple of policemen (both caravanners) who weighed caravans and motorhomes. They generally gave advice rather than prosecute though. The VOSA/DVSA guideline is that up to 5% or a tonne is a verbal warning.

Bear in mind that other authorities e.g. Trading Standards or an "authorised" police officer can weigh a vehicle and that they are not bound by the DVSA guidelines.

Go outside the UK and you are in another country!

 

[GWAYGWAY]

They would have to be a bit over the top to nick you for 1% over weight. Mind I have had a weigh Bridge bloke refuse to let me leave because I was 20kg over 44 ton .

Yes, but it was a 38 tonner.
Back off drive on and say do it again, maestro.

 

[Brains]

Many years ago we got pulled on the M1

We were driving a Merc Sprinter splitter bus, which is essentially a 9 seater race van type of layout, so very similar to a motorhome.

The police overtook up, held up a sign saying 'follow me', which we did for the next 20 miles, and they took us to a weighbridge.
By the time we arrived we were 1kg under the weight!

We recon that we had burned more than 1kg in fuel by the time we had driven to the weighbridge!

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[Emmit]

From memory, (which is admittedly rusty after 19yrs of retirement) , should a police constable take you to a weigh bridge which is more than a mile away and you are underweight, you can claim costs.

Anybody still in 'The Job' care to comment?

 

[Geo]

Go outside the UK and you are in another country!

Forgive me, but i noticed that too

 

[TinaLes]

Weighbridges seem to be fast disappearing down here in the Surrey region, more cut backs I guess.
I used one in Wellington Somerset a proper VOSA one, its always empty when we drive past, I wonder if its the £10 per axle, plus £10 for overall weight charge cert that puts people off? It certainly put me off, once bitten, twice shy
PS: we dont even have any flour mills, or cement works, the weigh bridges we did have were outside recycling places.
LES

 

[Brains]

The reason weigh bridges are at recycle places/council rubbish dumps is because they make money there.

If you drive in with anything bigger than a car they weigh you on the way in and then way you on the way out and charge you £X amount per KG for the difference.

Last time we went with a trailer, we 'accidentally' had one wheel off the bridge, and the wife got out of the car 'to check', we made sure we were properly weighed on the way out with both of us in the car so only got charged for 400kg when I recon it was well over 700 KG