New tyres (again!) (1 Viewer)

[Basa]

Looking to replace 4 tyres as they are 7 years old but loads of tread left, no cracking etc
Tried Blackcircle , good price and are available but they have told me that as they source from many places they could not give me an idea of year of manufacture
Said some could be 5 years old but perfectly ok
Does this sound correct?
Are there any suppliers that give manufacturers year made data?

 

[Lenny HB]

Said some could be 5 years old but perfectly ok

Tyre industry generally accepts up to 2 years old as new but for low mileage users 2 years would be too old.

 

[Cockers]

What’s the point for spending all that money on tyres that might only be 2 years newer that the ones you have. No cracks loads of tread I’d hang on to them for a couple more years.

 

[bigtree]

Looking to replace 4 tyres as they are 7 years old but loads of tread left, no cracking etc
Tried Blackcircle , good price and are available but they have told me that as they source from many places they could not give me an idea of year of manufacture
Said some could be 5 years old but perfectly ok
Does this sound correct?
Are there any suppliers that give manufacturers year made data?

There's cheaper places than Black Circles.

 

[EuroTrotters]

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[DJIT]

Looking to replace 4 tyres as they are 7 years old but loads of tread left, no cracking etc
Tried Blackcircle , good price and are available but they have told me that as they source from many places they could not give me an idea of year of manufacture
Said some could be 5 years old but perfectly ok
Does this sound correct?
Are there any suppliers that give manufacturers year made data?

Manufacturers bring out new versions or models of tyre every so often, so can you mitigate this by selecting a newer model of tyre?

 

[starquake]

There's cheaper places than Black Circles.

Indeed, ringing my local tyre place (it's an independant in my hometown) they have usually beat BlackCircles usually by at least a tenner a corner. I've been going there for 20 years, and am always amazed at friends using BlackCircle over them.

I popped in at Chrismas when my compressor died trying to pump the motorhome tyres to 5.5bar (have now replaced with a more suited pump!)., and they even filled the motorhome tyres for me free as they recognised me. They also gave me on spot advice of likely 2-3 years in my motohome tyres left, so to wait, but they'll order new when I need.

 

[Richard n Ann]

I've got a new 2014 tyre in the loft, that's going on soon along with the spare then the front 2 will be new again

 

[Rapido925M]

I'm looking to replace 4 tyres (225/70/15) and National are offering Rotalla Setula 4 Seasons at £92.99 then 20% discount.

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Any thoughts on their suitability please?

Gordon

 

[Lenny HB]

Chinese tyres I can't find any independent reviews on them. Everyone appears to be selling them Camskill £63.
I don't think I would want to go that cheap I prefer a known brand.

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[BouncyBoatFolk]

Chinese tyres I can't find any independent reviews on them. Everyone appears to be selling them Camskill £63.
I don't think I would want to go that cheap I prefer a known brand.

Go on, be a trail blazer, even the best brands today were once new to the market, and your opinion is well respected.
Mike.

 

[Nirvanauk]

Indeed, ringing my local tyre place (it's an independant in my hometown) they have usually beat BlackCircles usually by at least a tenner a corner. I've been going there for 20 years, and am always amazed at friends using BlackCircle over them.

I popped in at Chrismas when my compressor died trying to pump the motorhome tyres to 5.5bar (have now replaced with a more suited pump!)., and they even filled the motorhome tyres for me free as they recognised me. They also gave me on spot advice of likely 2-3 years in my motohome tyres left, so to wait, but they'll order new when I need.

5.5 bar, that’d shake my fillings out!

 

[scotjimland]

Chinese tyres

I think they may have the spying chips fitted ....

 

[starquake]

5.5 bar, that’d shake my fillings out!

Rear tyres on our motorhome thats the reccomended pressure.

 

[Nirvanauk]

Rear tyres on our motorhome thats the reccomended pressure.

Are you sure that’s not the maximum permitted pressure?

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[BouncyBoatFolk]

Are you sure that’s not the maximum permitted pressure?

Quite often one and the same, if your inclined to be guided by the vans manufacturer's plate advice, or your dentist
Mike.

 

[DDJC]

I'm looking to replace 4 tyres (225/70/15) and National are offering Rotalla Setula 4 Seasons at £92.99 then 20% discount.

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Any thoughts on their suitability please?

Gordon

I am also going to get four new 225/R15 70 this year.

I like all-season, 8 ply, A grade for rain and C graded for economy. I'm with Lenny, on name, but it isn't relevant for me as only Bridgestone, Continental, Michelin, Pirelli and Uniroyal have 225/15/70, tyres, rated A & C.
Of these, the Uniroyal Allseason Max is cheaper by about thirty quid a tyre.

However, if you add in one final deciding factor, that of speed, you have the choice of R and S, with S being slightly faster which translates in being slightly better for weight. The Uniroyal and Continental are R. Only the Bridgestone Duravis All Season, Michelin Agilis Climate and the Pirelli Carrier 4 Season. Watch it though, as the Michelin Agilis Cross Climate comes in both R and S.

I am going for Bridgestone. The price fluctates seemingly daily. I am expecting between £140 - £148 per tyre. Current best is National at £140.99 plus disposal.

 

[FrankNicklin]

Rear tyres on our motorhome thats the reccomended pressure.

Thats nearly 80psi, tyre wall probably says 65psi max. My MH label says 5.5psi for both back and front, its like driving on rocks. I run 65psi front and 70psi rear but thinking of dropping to 65psi all round as still way to hard at the back.

By the way Blackcircles is owned by Michelin so not surprised they can be undercut.

 

[Nirvanauk]

Thats nearly 80psi, tyre wall probably says 65psi max. My MH label says 5.5psi for both back and front, its like driving on rocks. I run 65psi front and 70psi rear but thinking of dropping to 65psi all round as still way to hard at the back.

That’s the same for me.

 

[starquake]

Thats nearly 80psi, tyre wall probably says 65psi max. My MH label says 5.5psi for both back and front, its like driving on rocks. I run 65psi front and 70psi rear but thinking of dropping to 65psi all round as still way to hard at the back.

I'm not disagreeing its crazy high - but the Michelin tyres are rated for that pressure on CP tyres. I will be reducing the pressure in summer with the heat on the road contributing to it, but we had some seriously under-pressure tyres when I checked on our last trip out (2 bar when should have been 5 at least).

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[BouncyBoatFolk]

I'm now running 60F and 65 rear. Drives pretty good on those pressures, pot holes are still pot holes, but not bone shakingly so.
Air bags set 35psi [ 2.5 bar ].
Mike.

 

[FrankNicklin]

I'm now running 60F and 65 rear. Drives pretty good on those pressures, pot holes are still pot holes, but not bone shakingly so.
Air bags set 35psi [ 2.5 bar ].
Mike.

Do you notice any difference in MPG. Just curious if it makes much difference. I reckon I get 25/28mpg from our 1.9JTD on the current pressures of 65F 70R. Softer equals more rubber on the road, but probably not enough to make much of a difference.

 

[BouncyBoatFolk]

My average fuel consumption is 25mpg, everywhere, it barely alters from that. We,re 4 ton when rolling. 2.3. 130 Fiat.
Average speed 33mph. Motorways/ dual & single carriageways.
Mike.

 

[Rapido925M]

I am also going to get four new 225/R15 70 this year.

I like all-season, 8 ply, A grade for rain and C graded for economy. I'm with Lenny, on name, but it isn't relevant for me as only Bridgestone, Continental, Michelin, Pirelli and Uniroyal have 225/15/70, tyres, rated A & C.
Of these, the Uniroyal Allseason Max is cheaper by about thirty quid a tyre.

However, if you add in one final deciding factor, that of speed, you have the choice of R and S, with S being slightly faster which translates in being slightly better for weight. The Uniroyal and Continental are R. Only the Bridgestone Duravis All Season, Michelin Agilis Climate and the Pirelli Carrier 4 Season. Watch it though, as the Michelin Agilis Cross Climate comes in both R and S.

I am going for Bridgestone. The price fluctates seemingly daily. I am expecting between £140 - £148 per tyre. Current best is National at £140.99 plus disposal.

Have you looked here?

2023 Tyre Reviews All Season Tyre Test - Tyre reviews and ratings

For the 2023/24 season, Tyre Reviews has tested ten of the very best all season tyres available. Following on from last years test in 17

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Goodyear Vector4 sounds good but Hankook Kinergy 4S2 seems good in dry and wet, which are the major factors. Whether they are available in van tyres I don't know.

Gordon

 

[eurajohn]

If you look at Michelin camper tyres (215-70-15) it says 109 load rating at 80 psi, so maybe lower pressure will reduce the load rating.

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[DDJC]

Have you looked here?

2023 Tyre Reviews All Season Tyre Test - Tyre reviews and ratings

For the 2023/24 season, Tyre Reviews has tested ten of the very best all season tyres available. Following on from last years test in 17

www.tyrereviews.com

Goodyear Vector4 sounds good but Hankook Kinergy 4S2 seems good in dry and wet, which are the major factors. Whether they are available in van tyres I don't know.

Gordon

Cheers for this. Both the Hankook and Goodyear scores B in the wet.

According to my local garage, Bridgestone are acknowledged as one of the best, if not the best in the rain. I don't mind paying more for that extra tiny bit of security.
I put Bridgestone on my car, The difference in the rain, even on sheet water, is amazing.

 

[cyberyacht]

If you look at Michelin camper tyres (215-70-15) it says 109 load rating at 80 psi, so maybe lower pressure will reduce the load rating.

All tyre load ratings are based on maximum pressure. The received wisdom is that there should always be a 10% margin between actual weight and the rated weight. Typical load ratings for moho tyres are something between 116(1250Kg) and 121 (1450Kg) so both have a safety margin for a 2000Kg axle. The higher rating obviously allows you to run at a lower pressure than the lower one and still maintain a margin.

 

[Geistguy]

Last couple of times I've needed tyres for our cars I've found the best deals on-line at Asda, local fitters and a good choice of brands. Prices include everything including disposal.

 

[scotjimland]

Last couple of times I've needed tyres for our cars I've found the best deals on-line at Asda, local fitters and a good choice of brands. Prices include everything including disposal.

never knew they sold tyres.. just checked and yes, very good prices.. cheers

 

[Lenny HB]

All tyre load ratings are based on maximum pressure. The received wisdom is that there should always be a 10% margin between actual weight and the rated weight. Typical load ratings for moho tyres are something between 116(1250Kg) and 121 (1450Kg) so both have a safety margin for a 2000Kg axle. The higher rating obviously allows you to run at a lower pressure than the lower one and still maintain a margin.

Agree with you about the 10% but manufacturers don't.

Most 3.5t motorhomes have a rear axle loading of 2000kg and are fitted with 15" wheels as standard (16" are an option). The standard CP tyre that is fitted is a 215/70/15 which has a load rating of 109, 1030 kg.
With a 4.25t or 4.5t motorhome with a rear axle loading of 2500kg the standard CP tyre is 225/75/16 which has a load rating of 116, 1250kg.

If you want a 10% margin you would need to fit standard van tyres as CP tyres are not available with higher load ratings than the ones I have referred to.