New Sat Nav - Tom Tom Campervan and Caravan Sat Nav Go Camper Tour

[MickandHelen]

Hi all, We are looking to upgrade our Sat Nav. We currently have a Garmin 770 which we have had for a few years. We had a Tom Tom before that and liked the features around POIs that were pre-loaded which the Garmin doesn't seem to have, you have to put your own on. Does anyone have any views on these Tom Toms, or any other they would recommend.

Thanks all.

 

[LesW]

Stick with what you know.

 

[cyberyacht]

I have the TomTom camper. It does seem a bit idiosyncratic on routes sometimes compared with the very old TomTom Go 700 that it replaced. I haven't really got to grips with stuff like waypoints. Perhaps a training session over the winter with the manual.

 

[MickandHelen]

I have the TomTom camper. It does seem a bit idiosyncratic on routes sometimes compared with the very old TomTom Go 700 that it replaced. I haven't really got to grips with stuff like waypoints. Perhaps a training session over the winter with the manual.

Thanks for this

 

[Ninjabob]

Get a TomTom Camper but turn off Online Routing in Services

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[MickandHelen]

Get a TomTom Camper but turn off Online Routing in Services

Why is that?

 

[InvictaMoto]

I have a TomTom Rider 410 that I use on the bikes and although it's good it has no concept of low bridges or other large vehicle hazards. I use MyRouteApp to plan routes in advance and the wired interface is great for transferring ITN routes (it will do GPX as well) but can the car/moho oriented TomTom units do the same?

Argos currently have the TomTom Go Camper on sale.Broken Link Removed

Anyone know it routes cab be sent to it?

Sorry to hijack the link but this might enhance the original question....

 

[scotzsue]

Can't help with whether routes can be sent to the TT we have old tom toms including the tomtom rider, I have a CMC camper, it is not intuitive like the tomtom and you can't have speed you are doing and route on it at the same time. It doesn't always take a sensible route, in fact getting from storage to the main road it has 3 errors, it's a farm road, has got so bad one of the horsey places has put a sign up at the end of their road saying no through road, sat nav error.

 

[bigtwin]

Stick with what you know.

They are only contemplating those they know and have used before.

I have a TomTom Rider 410 that I use on the bikes and although it's good it has no concept of low bridges or other large vehicle hazards. I use MyRouteApp to plan routes in advance and the wired interface is great for transferring ITN routes (it will do GPX as well) but can the car/moho oriented TomTom units do the same?

Argos currently have the TomTom Go Camper on sale.Broken Link Removed

Anyone know it routes cab be sent to it?

Sorry to hijack the link but this might enhance the original question....

TT Rider and TT Camper Go have entirely different features. For example, the Camper does not have a Twisty Route option and the TT Rider does not allow axle weights to be added. Horses for courses; I have both.

All current TT devices can have routes sent to the device via the TT MyDrive App.

Ian

 

[Ninjabob]

Why is that?

Because I have found the Online Routing hopeless. Just turn it off and sensible routes will become the norm. Camper will offer you alternative routes around traffic as yo proceed.

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[Guigsy]

I think the latest TomTom dedicated devices use the exact same software as the iPhone/Android app. So try that first and see if you like the interface before you shell out.

 

[Ninjabob]

I think the latest TomTom dedicated devices use the exact same software as the iPhone/Android app. So try that first and see if you like the interface before you shell out.

Agreed I have and use both and they are both consistent in their routing. The truck version of TT Go for Android is as good if not better than their standalone units. The Truck/Car version of the Go App is too expensive at the moment but often goes on offer at sensible prices. The TT Go App at £19:99 per year with traffic & speed cameras is excellent value. Map Updates can be as often as fortnightly.

 

[Guigsy]

Agreed I have and use both and they are both consistent in their routing. The truck version of TT Go for Android is as good if not better than their standalone units. The Truck/Car version of the Go App is too expensive at the moment but often goes on offer at sensible prices. The TT Go App at £19:99 per year with traffic & speed cameras is excellent value. Map Updates can be as often as fortnightly.

I tried it. The 'truck' features that allowed you to put in height/width/weight were free during the beta period. I was unimpressed on two counts. I found several issues with the mapping. And the guidance was frequently odd. E.g. when you're going up the M6 northbound and you have to turn off to avoid going going on the M6 Toll, why does it tell you to head towards Litchfield? It doesn't even appear on the signs. I keep trying lots of the apps and I consistently go back to Google Maps every time.

 

[Ninjabob]

I tried it. The 'truck' features that allowed you to put in height/width/weight were free during the beta period. I was unimpressed on two counts. I found several issues with the mapping. And the guidance was frequently odd. E.g. when you're going up the M6 northbound and you have to turn off to avoid going going on the M6 Toll, why does it tell you to head towards Litchfield? It doesn't even appear on the signs. I keep trying lots of the apps and I consistently go back to Google Maps every time.

Once again turn off Online Routing and that nonsense will stop.

 

[Ninjabob]

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[Guigsy]

Once again turn off Online Routing and that nonsense will stop.

The route was fine. It was how it was describing the directions that was stupid.

Google Maps normally gives you the exact same naming as what is says on the road signs. Far less confusion.

 

[Stealaway]

We have always had TomTom so quite used it and wouldn't change.
Loads of free download and POI's but unfortunately Camper Contact has now stopped supporting it on the satnav.
We will have to struggle on with our existing version

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[eurajohn]

Hi all, We are looking to upgrade our Sat Nav. We currently have a Garmin 770 which we have had for a few years. We had a Tom Tom before that and liked the features around POIs that were pre-loaded which the Garmin doesn't seem to have, you have to put your own on. Does anyone have any views on these Tom Toms, or any other they would recommend.

Thanks all.

For many years we were very happy with our various TomTom units until an update of the maps killed our then current camper unit, but that's another story.
Have tried the latest TomTom units and don't particularly get on with some of the now missing features I appreciated on the older ones.
Got a Garmin camper and now on our second Garmin camper check out the features of the camper unit Here they come with a lot of camper related features including a database of searchable places and sites etc.
I'm not suggesting the routing is any better than any of the others available but certainly no worse.

 

[Clive Beeza]

Hi all, We are looking to upgrade our Sat Nav. We currently have a Garmin 770 which we have had for a few years. We had a Tom Tom before that and liked the features around POIs that were pre-loaded which the Garmin doesn't seem to have, you have to put your own on. Does anyone have any views on these Tom Toms, or any other they would recommend.

Thanks all.

Have a TomTom Trucker
allows input of vehicle, height width, length, weight etc
does not always send us on the shortest route
but does not send us down narrow roads, low bridges etc
always found it accurate
and free map updates too,

 

[wfdTamar]

TomTom Camper (used in Europe & UK). I've used TomTom's in my cars for quite a few years. Tried a Garmin (standard car one) once and it was hopeless at routing, but that was here in Australia and could have been due to the map source they use here.

The TomTom Camper model is just a truck one with Camping POI's thrown in. The routing options in the Satnav aren't great (not particularly what you'd want in a camper model). Just shortest, or fastest, or eco-friendly (the latter two usually give you boring motorways). There's no 'scenic' option which would be good. You can get around that omission by using their web site MyDrive, which does show scenic routes, then transfer your chosen route to the TomTom (over the cloud). Requires a bit of work, but works ok.

Although the dimensions thing works, it's not perfect. I've been sent up some pretty narrow roads. Still better than a standard satnav which doesn't have it. The guidance and mapping is very good. One very annoying thing is they do provide maps for each country (so you can only load and update the countries you want, BUT importantly only the ones that have 'Camper' in the name have the dimensions function (which you want for a motorhome). This means you have to load the 8Gb Europe Camper map and it's an 8Gb download if it's updated. Ok if you do short trips, but a pain if you do longer ones and want to get it on a low data sim while away.

I'd be investigating phone app options first (though they will make you phone that up).

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[PG]

I found searching my favourites in Tom Tom go awful. Results did not show in distance order and TomTom said it was a fault. The truck version was really expensive. The only reason I wanted an android version was to play music and navigate with the music cutting off when directions are spoken. So I emergency switched to magic earth on my phone which did the job for now

 

[MickandHelen]

Thanks everyone for your comments, positives and negatives to all of them it seems. Perhaps we may stay with the one we have and upgrade that one. Regards

 

[Purrfecttune]

Bought the Gamin Motorhome 780 a year ago and been very happy with it (we have a Swift Escape 674, 7.3m long).

 

[MickandHelen]

For many years we were very happy with our various TomTom units until an update of the maps killed our then current camper unit, but that's another story.
Have tried the latest TomTom units and don't particularly get on with some of the now missing features I appreciated on the older ones.
Got a Garmin camper and now on our second Garmin camper check out the features of the camper unit Here they come with a lot of camper related features including a database of searchable places and sites etc.
I'm not suggesting the routing is any better than any of the others available but certainly no worse.

Strangely I think that is what happened to our old Tom Tom, after an update nothing worked. What we liked about that one was that it showed icons for campsites or stopovers on the way that you could press on and then it would ask if you wanted to go there. That is how we found one of our favourite stopovers in Germany. However that was Campercontact which a preb=vious post seems to indicate is no longer available. Camper contact is on Garmin.

 

[pwilmo]

Hi all, I hve been using TomTom camper and have been very happy with it, however!!! returning via a different route other than the twisty road we had used to go to Malvern Show we headed straight up to get onto the M4 as quickly as possible.
We ran into the clean air zone/environmental of Bath, the approching signage was mimimal. The rate for my van would have been £125 .
Luckily there was an access gap along the dual carriageway just
before entering the zone, and I was able to make a naughty U-turn.
I investigated whether TomTom would be updating their software to include avoidance of clean air zones, as quite a few cities are following London's example now, Manchester, Birmingham, Bath, pity the poor motorhomers who live and park inside these zones.
Any way it seems that TomTom have no plans to include zone avoidance and they have even shut down TomTom forums mentioning the subject.
So sadly I've gone to a Garmin which has zone avoidance and updates the mapping as new cities adopt these restrictions.

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[MickandHelen]

Hi all, I hve been using TomTom camper and have been very happy with it, however!!! returning via a different route other than the twisty road we had used to go to Malvern Show we headed straight up to get onto the M4 as quickly as possible.
We ran into the clean air zone/environmental of Bath, the approching signage was mimimal. The rate for my van would have been £125 .
Luckily there was an access gap along the dual carriageway just
before entering the zone, and I was able to make a naughty U-turn.
I investigated whether TomTom would be updating their software to include avoidance of clean air zones, as quite a few cities are following London's example now, Manchester, Birmingham, Bath, pity the poor motorhomers who live and park inside these zones.
Any way it seems that TomTom have no plans to include zone avoidance and they have even shut down TomTom forums mentioning the subject.
So sadly I've gone to a Garmin which has zone avoidance and updates the mapping as new cities adopt these restrictions.

Good point, thank you.

 

[ronidog1]

Hi all, I hve been using TomTom camper and have been very happy with it, however!!! returning via a different route other than the twisty road we had used to go to Malvern Show we headed straight up to get onto the M4 as quickly as possible.
We ran into the clean air zone/environmental of Bath, the approching signage was mimimal. The rate for my van would have been £125 .
Luckily there was an access gap along the dual carriageway just
before entering the zone, and I was able to make a naughty U-turn.
I investigated whether TomTom would be updating their software to include avoidance of clean air zones, as quite a few cities are following London's example now, Manchester, Birmingham, Bath, pity the poor motorhomers who live and park inside these zones.
Any way it seems that TomTom have no plans to include zone avoidance and they have even shut down TomTom forums mentioning the subject.
So sadly I've gone to a Garmin which has zone avoidance and updates the mapping as new cities adopt these restrictions.

I checked my 5.5m panel van on the govt website and I will not be charged in Bradford, Bath etc. Is it different in other zones

 

[Pedro Pallent]

I have just bought Garmin Camper 795, so far I am happy with it, but could do with help in being able to import POi’s

 

[wfdTamar]

(though they will make you phone that up)

make YOUR phone HEAT up!

 

[MickandHelen]

I have just bought Garmin Camper 795, so far I am happy with it, but could do with help in being able to import POi’s

That's an issue we have with our current one which is the 770

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