New Iveco based motorhome for £32k?

Jez1966 · Apr 9, 2023

Am I missing something here?
Ignoring taxes, etc, I'm just try to understand.
Is this an advert for an Iveco/Fiat chassis motorhome for £32-50k?
Alibaba is a Chinese commercail "Amazon" site so not an obvious scam site.
There are many other adverts for shells to be fitted chassis and complete vehicles etc.

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gpat · Apr 9, 2023

Its Chinese. If you got one you would like it but then you would feel like you needed another 2 hours later.

Jez1966 · Apr 9, 2023

gpat said:
Its Chinese. If you got one you would like it but then you would feel like you needed another 2 hours later.

@32k I could afford 3.
But seriously looking at the mutliple adverts am I /we missing something?

The Coops · Apr 9, 2023

Import duty, VAT, type approval, emissions control, delivery costs, warranty issues?

Jez1966 · Apr 9, 2023

The Coops said:
Import duty, VAT, type approval, emissions control, delivery costs, warranty issues?

As per question "Ignoring taxes, etc, I'm just try to understand." is this a full motorhome for sale?
But as you ingnored the question, duty & VAT on £32k 35% or so, delivery £4k
As per question it's an Iveco or Fiat so what type approval, emissions and warranty issue do you foresee?

gpat · Apr 9, 2023

Jez1966 said:
As per question "Ignoring taxes, etc, I'm just try to understand." is this a full motorhome for sale?
But as you ingnored the question, duty & VAT on £32k 35% or so, delivery £4k
As per question it's an Iveco or Fiat so what type approval, emissions and warranty issue do you foresee?

Afaik. Vehicles sold outside the EU do not get a certificate of conformity so, even though they are obviously the same as the EU version, you have to get them certified.

PeterCarole29 · Apr 9, 2023

gpat said:
Afaik. Vehicles sold outside the EU do not get a certificate of conformity so, even though they are obviously the same as the EU version, you have to get them certified.

Would that be only for resale as a dealer as as a self build couldnt you have the best of both worlds. Cheap camper of hypothetically higher end build compared to most peoples self build standard

Guigsy · Apr 9, 2023

Apparently RV sales are booming in China.

Jez1966 · Apr 9, 2023

And Maxus vans are sold in UK..

gpat · Apr 9, 2023

PeterCarole29 said:
Would that be only for resale as a dealer as as a self build couldnt you have the best of both worlds. Cheap camper of hypothetically higher end build compared to most peoples self build standard

Doesn't matter whether resale or not. I think you need the type approval and certificate of conformity to import a vehicle to the UK. It's easy from the EU. If no certificate you need an inspection and certification.

Jez1966 said:
And Maxus vans are sold in UK..

I might be wrong but I don't think that makes much difference. We tried to import out T5 campervan to New Zealand. There were loads over there. Still needed inspection and testing before be imported.

It won't be impossible, it's just that it eats into the potential saving. On top of the cost of shipping and VAT. Import duty etc.

And goodness knows what you would do with it if you had serious issues. You couldn't really reject it.

Spriddler · Apr 9, 2023

One of my biker chums who imports blingy stuff from China and India ( I call it 'Trendy Tat') bought a new Royal Enfield m/bike (made in India) direct from a distributor in India for around half the cost of the same model bought from a U.K. distributor. He couldn't get a C of C so couldn't register it. He dismantled it and sold it as spares.

Jez1966 · Apr 9, 2023

Spriddler said:
One of my biker chums who imports blingy stuff from China and India ( I call it 'Trendy Tat') bought a new Royal Enfield m/bike (made in India) direct from a distributor in India for around half the cost of the same model bought from a U.K. distributor. He couldn't get a C of C so couldn't register it. He dismantled it and sold it as spares.

Not sure what your chums issue was, C of C is provided by the manufacturer as part to sale, not post purchase application and for inter EU, that we are no longer part of.

Certificate of conformity for new vehicles

The certificate of conformity ensures the free movement of goods and must be supplied to the buyer of a new vehicle when the vehicle is delivered.

www.gov.uk

A certificate of conformity (CoC) is a paper document issued by the manufacturer of a vehicle. Its purpose is to ensure the free movement of goods between EU countries. It can also help when importing and registering a vehicle in a non-EU country such as the UK.
The certificate must be provided free of charge to the buyer of a new vehicle when the vehicle is delivered. There is a legal requirement for the supplying dealer to do this.
The document contains information about the vehicle and certifies that it has been manufactured in conformity with type approval standards.
This means that the vehicle complies with the relevant safety and environmental regulations and can be registered.

Purchased outside EU CofC not applicable.

Not saying importing from Asia simple just not CofC relevant.

Steve and Denise · Apr 9, 2023

The Coops said:
Import duty, VAT, type approval, emissions control, delivery costs, warranty issues?

Warranty issues would be no different to a UK bought van

Jez1966 · Apr 9, 2023

gpat said:
Doesn't matter whether resale or not. I think you need the type approval and certificate of conformity to import a vehicle to the UK. It's easy from the EU. If no certificate you need an inspection and certification.

I might be wrong but I don't think that makes much difference. We tried to import out T5 campervan to New Zealand. There were loads over there. Still needed inspection and testing before be imported.

It won't be impossible, it's just that it eats into the potential saving. On top of the cost of shipping and VAT. Import duty etc.

And goodness knows what you would do with it if you had serious issues. You couldn't really reject it.

We're not in EU..

Bustup15 · Apr 9, 2023

It looks like a generic advert, various lengths and base manufacturers quoted

IVECO/BENZ/FORD/FOTON/DONGFENG/JINBEI

My experience of dealing with Chinese manufacturers is they will reply yes to anything and quality control can be a major issue! However if you find a good one they can be very good.

Must be worth a follow up?

Steve and Denise · Apr 9, 2023

Bustup15 said:
It looks like a generic advert, various lengths and base manufacturers quoted

IVECO/BENZ/FORD/FOTON/DONGFENG/JINBEI

My experience of dealing with Chinese manufacturers is they will reply yes to anything and quality control can be a major issue! However if you find a good one they can be very good.

Must be worth a follow up?

How is your black tank progressing?

gpat · Apr 9, 2023

Jez1966 said:
We're not in EU..

You don't say?

Afaik we use the same system of type approval. I might be wrong.

Bustup15 · Apr 9, 2023

Steve and Denise said:
How is your black tank progressing?

It's not at the minute, lack of time and no real urgency as original system works. One day though!

The Coops · Apr 10, 2023

Jez1966 said:
As per question "Ignoring taxes, etc, I'm just try to understand." is this a full motorhome for sale?
But as you ingnored the question, duty & VAT on £32k 35% or so, delivery £4k
As per question it's an Iveco or Fiat so what type approval, emissions and warranty issue do you foresee?

You would have to pay a duty in China, on top of the purchase price, that's what I thought you were ignoring, will put my glasses on! I would imagine unless you were setting a dealership up with factory backing and spares back up as many hurdles as possible would be put in your way with bureaucracy. As for the base vehicles are you sure they are European models, the Chinese have a habit of ignoring copyright issues and borrowing trademarks, Good luck in your endeavour's

Nanniemate · Apr 10, 2023

Jez1966 said:
@32k I could afford 3.
But seriously looking at the mutliple adverts am I /we missing something?

It's priced in US$ and if your not there to take delivery they will leave it with a neighbour

Roby2008 · Apr 10, 2023

Jez1966 said:
Am I missing something here?
Ignoring taxes, etc, I'm just try to understand.
Is this an advert for an Iveco/Fiat chassis motorhome for £32-50k?
Alibaba is a Chinese commercail "Amazon" site so not an obvious scam site.
There are many other adverts for shells to be fitted chassis and complete vehicles etc.

This product is no longer available.

This product is no longer available.

www.alibaba.com

Alibaba.com

Alibaba.com

www.alibaba.com

Thanks for that

, I have just spent a happy hour going through the Alibaba site looking at all the camper/truck options and letting my imagination run riot with the possibilities

irnbru · Apr 10, 2023

I like the idea of the slideouts at both the side and rear. I'd love a nosey in one before I risked buying one though. Does that look like a washing machine in the video at 12 secs?

Jez1966 · Apr 10, 2023

irnbru said:
I like the idea of the slideouts at both the side and rear. I'd love a nosey in one before I risked buying one though. Does that look like a washing machine in the video at 12 secs?

Yes, many have washing machine listed, usually 4kg for the "techie".

Beer O'clock · Apr 10, 2023

Jez1966 said:
Am I missing something here?
Ignoring taxes, etc, I'm just try to understand.
Is this an advert for an Iveco/Fiat chassis motorhome for £32-50k?
Alibaba is a Chinese commercail "Amazon" site so not an obvious scam site.
There are many other adverts for shells to be fitted chassis and complete vehicles etc.

This product is no longer available.

This product is no longer available.

www.alibaba.com

Alibaba.com

Alibaba.com

www.alibaba.com

Hi, l can confirm this is cabin only. I tested the water with an enquiry recently. Best advice stay away. As others have said cost plus taxes shipping not forgetting IVA. They do have a strange way of working regarding your enquiry the pole opposite of how we do things here. The majority of Australian and American off road type products cabins, trailers etc are manufactured there. Not breaking news as we all know China is the factory of the world.

berni109 · Apr 10, 2023

Why not go to China to have a look and then drive it home, certainly test the durability of your purchase.
It's a very interesting place to visit or at least it was a few years ago.
Avoiding Russia of course on the drive home.

gus-lopez · Apr 10, 2023

Guigsy said:
Apparently RV sales are booming in China.

Isn't that the old LDV?

Jez1966 said:
And Maxus vans are sold in UK..

Yes I looked at some in Brighton. panel vans 68k + vat
a chassis cab,electric, swbase was 40k + vat & it looked worse than the welding i do

Nanniemate said:
It's priced in US$

makes it even cheaper.

berni109 said:
Why not go to China to have a look and then drive it home, certainly test the durability of your purchase.

I was thinking that.

New Iveco based motorhome for £32k?

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