New conservatory

[Jimbohorlicks]

I would also have the roof downpipe moved further over to the outside of the box gutter area as all the main house roof water currently flows down the box gutter. If they now cannot reach the roof gutter I would add another down pipe at the end of the roof gutter run to take off some rain water.

 

[Terry]

I say again a little holding water won't hurt ! The box could be slightly out of level for all sorts of reasons.Example, Your house may not be level and setting it level made it look pissed...better to look level out of level than be level and looking pissed All sorts of reasons, let the builder do his job and seal it up / stop it leaking. Once it's done give it a good hose test.We / some on here are slaughtering the builder before he's found the leak. I don't think he made it leak on purpose
Edit he may find where he thinks it leaking and fix that and it could be leaking from elsewhere ...may have to come back

 

[deleted-member02]

Terrible workmanship from what I can see.
Pic 1. Looks like untreated timber - why would you?
Pic 3. Terrible lap on the felt (see the gap).
So many different materials cobbled together it’s bound to cause issues. Ideally you want a seamless gutter and upstands. Gutter (with correct fall) constructed from osb, Code 4 or 5 lead, grp, epdm or single-ply membrane to waterproof.
Pic 4. Some sort of acrylic coating, Acrypol or similar. That’s a bodge and unlikely to last long.

Now that the construction is almost finished, it’s a horrible job for a roofer to fix (access is bad).
A liquid applied polyurethane membrane might solve this issues and last a good few years but it’s still a bodge.
My first call would be to a surveyor to establish suitable remedial action. It’ll be money well spent.
Even if the firm stop leaks today, you’ve likely got problems in the foreseeable future. Good luck with it...

 

[Minxy]

I say again a little holding water won't hurt ! The box could be slightly out of level for all sorts of reasons.Example, Your house may not be level and setting it level made it look pissed...better to look level out of level than be level and looking pissed All sorts of reasons, let the builder do his job and seal it up / stop it leaking. Once it's done give it a good hose test.We / some on here are slaughtering the builder before he's found the leak. I don't think he made it leak on purpose

Totally agree about the 'visual' level rather than 'genuine' level on some stuff ... but what the builder seems to be doing is trying to bodge it with 'gunk' etc.

 

[PhilMary]

I hope you paid part by credit card. Is so let the card company know and they will stop payments and it does wonders to focus the minds of builders.
Phil

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[Minxy]

I would also have the roof downpipe moved further over to the outside of the box gutter area as all the main house roof water currently flows down the box gutter. If they now cannot reach the roof gutter I would add another down pipe at the end of the roof gutter run to take off some rain water.

Agree, I can see no reason why it has to discharge into that channel at all, this will significantly reduce the amount of water in the channel thus won't inundate it as the amount of rain that would get into it normally will be a lot less than having half of the house roof going into it too!

 

[Terry]

Totally agree about the 'visual' level rather than 'genuine' level on some stuff ... but what the builder seems to be doing is trying to bodge it with 'gunk' etc.

The builder should become a van converter Bodgeing becomes Modifications

 

[Jimbohorlicks]

The builder should become a van converter Bodgeing becomes Modifications

Difficult to put levellers under a conservatory.

 

[Clipgate]

The reality is they are not responsible, it's the customer if land owner who is responsible, even for builders immission or errors.
I.E if built in the wrong place or size, landowner is in the cross airs. They in turn need to prove the builder was not acting in accordance with instructions. For example none compliance with the contract (Breach of contract) I am not a lawyer my brother is, my education on this subject came from hard knocks.
Easy to be wise after the subject however a schedule of works, included in a contract is absolutely required.
Then as my brother's says Do not bother taking action against men of straw.
Many companies seem to have wealth, few really have.

 

[Clipgate]

Someone mentioned credit card payment. Section 75 is most useful, check it out.

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[Terry]

Agree, I can see no reason why it has to discharge into that channel at all, this will significantly reduce the amount of water in the channel thus won't inundate it as the amount of rain that would get into it normally will be a lot less than having half of the house roof going into it too!

The box should easy cope with the water Builder may have limited options as to where the water goes? Without seeing the job we are all guessing Other options are he drops another fall pipe down exiting where ? Plus he may charge more to do this ? I can see it now he breaks into old gutters that are plastic and brittle ends up replacing all roof gutters

 

[Terry]

Difficult to put levellers under a conservatory.

Gone straight over your head Jim Wonder if he used butal tape on the joint's

 

[gus-lopez]

That's were it's leaking.
First they put some fiberglass type gob on the joints then came back and put something that they warmed up like flashing.

Why are there any joints in the box gutter between hip roof & main house? You can get ali gutters made thses days in infinite lengths straight off the roll out the back of a van. You cab get any length galvanised sheet bent up in 6m lengths & sometimes 8m.That doesn't appear to be more than 4m in width?

Building?

sorry building control as you said it come under there rules.

Very interesting legal perspective Clipgate, does this mean that building control is essentially a toothless tiger and can effectively be ignored? I really do hope not!

What do you think?

Cheers!

Russ

How can you have something making rules that when wrong & questioned aren't held to be liable?

 

[Simon Meadwell]

Conservatory gutters dont have any fall .At least not with the conservatory you have. The Aliminium box gutter comes supplied with a joint tape not the best option but if applied properly ie when dry works and perimeter upvc gutters clip into the wallplate so again cant have fall as the wallplate should be level. Firstly divert the rainwater pipe from the house roof out of the box gutter. Then clean off the joints in the box gutter and reseal i have used rubber roof jointing strip successfully in the past.

 

[Terry]

Why are there any joints in the box gutter between hip roof & main house? You can get ali gutters made thses days in infinite lengths straight off the roll out the back of a van. You cab get any length galvanised sheet bent up in 6m lengths & sometimes 8m.That doesn't appear to be more than 4m in width?

Hi Gus the box gutter is load bearing so cannot be extruded on site.
I always used one piece welded box gutters and any joints to plastic gutters were outside so did not leak inside

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[Campervan_man]

When My in law wanted a quote one company was going to build a wooden trough lined with lead and the other company quoted for an aluminium trough. The 2nd company got the job.
If your trough is holding water now once algae and moss start forming your trough will soon clog up and will drain even less.
I would be looking to have the trough replaced with a seamless one piece aluminium version ?
I'm not a builder.
I don't think it is helping having a rain gutter above pouring water in to a conservatory roof trough either.
I would re-route the higher guttering to the other end if possible.

 

[Simon Meadwell]

Hi just had another look at the photos and the one showing the edge of the new roof the tiles do not overhanging far enough into the gutter and given the rounded edge on the tiles water will be capillaring back under the tiles.
Not blowing my own trumpet ive been Roofing 40 years so have some knowledge