New automatic autoroute payments by phone?

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We have just returned from Switzerland by car as I do not have suitable tyres for the van.
We left Metz by the motorway on the north east side to travel south to Nancy to avoid the Payage but we missed the exit so we took the next exit to avoid it Payage but it was to late.
So we left at the next exit and stopped next to a payment machine, the first question was enter your vehicle country so as I had selected English I entered England no luck, then Great Britain no luck, then Royaume Uni no luck so after talking to the operator I found out that it had to be United Kingdom. I do not know why it did not accept the French spelling.
So first step overcome now to enter the cars registration I checked as it was my wife's car, I entered it correctly but no success, again speaking to the operator she said that the number on the car did not accord with their photo!
As I refused to enter a false registration that she gave me from their photo, she entered it and I had then to pay €1.90 to escape.
The photo they had with their camera did not register the 2 of our registration the number was missing completely!
Such is progress.
Perhaps it is easier with a dongle system on the windscreen.
 
We have just returned from Switzerland by car as I do not have suitable tyres for the van.
We left Metz by the motorway on the north east side to travel south to Nancy to avoid the Payage but we missed the exit so we took the next exit to avoid it Payage but it was to late.
So we left at the next exit and stopped next to a payment machine, the first question was enter your vehicle country so as I had selected English I entered England no luck, then Great Britain no luck, then Royaume Uni no luck so after talking to the operator I found out that it had to be United Kingdom. I do not know why it did not accept the French spelling.
So first step overcome now to enter the cars registration I checked as it was my wife's car, I entered it correctly but no success, again speaking to the operator she said that the number on the car did not accord with their photo!
As I refused to enter a false registration that she gave me from their photo, she entered it and I had then to pay €1.90 to escape.
The photo they had with their camera did not register the 2 of our registration the number was missing completely!
Such is progress.
Perhaps it is easier with a dongle system on the windscreen.
Pretty much every country has a typeface on their numberplates that has been designed to be unambiguous and easy for ANPR cameras to read. When the UK updated their plate design in 2001, the technical recommendation was to do something similar. But it was overruled by government because they liked the traditional font.

So even with specific UK cameras, the accuracy is pretty poor. The industry standard system for a long time meant lots of characters such as 2 and Z, 5 and S are treated as the same to improve matches. With the acknowledgement that images have to be human checked if used for enforcement. That encoding is still used for journey time monitoring. Which causes fun when you're trying to get data along a stretch that covers a car dealership and you find an Astra, a Corsa and a Zafira all have plates that are similar enough that they come back as the same number through the algorithm. Which then triggers the occasional apparent supersonic average speeds across Coventry.

I'm not surprised that a Swiss camera had poor accuracy for UK plates. The recognition configuration might not even know how to recognise UK fonts and layout rules.
 
We have just returned from Switzerland by car as I do not have suitable tyres for the van.
We left Metz by the motorway on the north east side to travel south to Nancy to avoid the Payage but we missed the exit so we took the next exit to avoid it Payage but it was to late.
So we left at the next exit and stopped next to a payment machine, the first question was enter your vehicle country so as I had selected English I entered England no luck, then Great Britain no luck, then Royaume Uni no luck so after talking to the operator I found out that it had to be United Kingdom. I do not know why it did not accept the French spelling.
So first step overcome now to enter the cars registration I checked as it was my wife's car, I entered it correctly but no success, again speaking to the operator she said that the number on the car did not accord with their photo!
As I refused to enter a false registration that she gave me from their photo, she entered it and I had then to pay €1.90 to escape.
The photo they had with their camera did not register the 2 of our registration the number was missing completely!
Such is progress.
Perhaps it is easier with a dongle system on the windscreen.
Errrr if you select English as the language it would seem unlikely that “Royaume Uni” would be acceptable……😊
 
Pretty much every country has a typeface on their numberplates that has been designed to be unambiguous and easy for ANPR cameras to read. When the UK updated their plate design in 2001, the technical recommendation was to do something similar. But it was overruled by government because they liked the traditional font.

So even with specific UK cameras, the accuracy is pretty poor. The industry standard system for a long time meant lots of characters such as 2 and Z, 5 and S are treated as the same to improve matches. With the acknowledgement that images have to be human checked if used for enforcement. That encoding is still used for journey time monitoring. Which causes fun when you're trying to get data along a stretch that covers a car dealership and you find an Astra, a Corsa and a Zafira all have plates that are similar enough that they come back as the same number through the algorithm. Which then triggers the occasional apparent supersonic average speeds across Coventry.

I'm not surprised that a Swiss camera had poor accuracy for UK plates. The recognition configuration might not even know how to recognise UK fonts and layout rules.

I wonder what an ANPR or other camera would make of my Polish Vintage plate which includes an image of a 1920s style car. :LOL:

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