N10 no overtaking weight limit.

[Casper46]

We dont usually use the N10, but due to the local road being closed we are going to join it at Ruffec and travel to Poitiers. Can anyone tell me the weight limit for no overtaking please.

 

[Sheddy]

South of Poitiers on the dual carriageway down to Angouleme it is 3.5 t.
Cheers
Ed

 

[tonka]

3.5 tonnes... AND thats any vehicle in areas where signs show the restriction. It's not all the way.
Look close at the sign as it shows a car and not a goods vehicle..
I have to admit we are 4250kg but look like many 3500kg vans so i have done it on many occassions.
You get the odd truck risk it but be aware of the police motorcycles..
Also the lower speed limits when you pass intersections.
Otherwise a great road as i went up and down it last month in the car..

 

[Madcaravanner]

Don't forget if you are 3.5T it also applies to you

as does the 80kph speed limit and it's strange to see the French Motorhomers sticking to it probably something to do with the number of Speed cameras which can be placed anywhere on the central divide and which can differentiate between HGV and cars

Done it in car and motorhome and watched HGV after HGV ignore the limit and get flashed because they overtook something then next trip the cameras were somewhere else

 

[Clarky]

Most boring road ever!
Good road, good surface, but why it needs a 80kph limit plus the 'no overtaking' rule I don't understand.
More accidents due to drivers dozing off than due to speed I would think.

Richard.

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[Nicepix]

3.5 tonnes... AND thats any vehicle in areas where signs show the restriction. It's not all the way.
Look close at the sign as it shows a car and not a goods vehicle..
I have to admit we are 4250kg but look like many 3500kg vans so i have done it on many occassions.
You get the odd truck risk it but be aware of the police motorcycles..
Also the lower speed limits when you pass intersections.
Otherwise a great road as i went up and down it last month in the car..

Last time I was on there I overtook a long line of HGVs travelling at 80kph. A Portuguese lorry pulled out in front of me to overtake the 5 or 6 in front only to find a police motorcyclist at the head of the queue. He would have been pulled at the next intersection or services to suffer his fate. There is no way to see the motorcycles until you get past the lead lorry.

It must be a tedious journey at 80kph

 

[tonka]

Agree with last 2 posts.. Only reason i can see for it is to trap vehicles and take the money
BUT a good road if your in a car as can save some cash it's a change from the boring toll road.
If your in a motorhome and no rush it's worth the slow speed, plus the big aire at Roullet with free water

 

[Lenny HB]

Hate that road, came down the A20 yesterday much nicer hardly any lorries.

 

[Nicepix]

Agree with last 2 posts.. Only reason i can see for it is to trap vehicles and take the money
BUT a good road if your in a car as can save some cash it's a change from the boring toll road.
If your in a motorhome and no rush it's worth the slow speed, plus the big aire at Roullet with free water

It might be that in the past problems were caused by HGVs doing the 6 mile overtake of a slightly slower HGV causing tailbacks of cars.

 

[gus-lopez]

There is no way to see the motorcycles until you get past the lead lorry.

It's entrapment ,either the lead or the second truck should double up & block both lanes at 80.

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[tonka]

It might be that in the past problems were caused by HGVs doing the 6 mile overtake of a slightly slower HGV causing tailbacks of cars.

I can agree on the uphill overtaking bit BUT if that was the concern then also dropping the speed to 80kph does not make any sense. Never mind at least we dont have to do it every day or week

 

[GWAYGWAY]

Elephant racing I call it, goes on all the time here 0.01mph faster and off they go to overtake and find it doesn't actually happen for 8 miles.

 

[TerryL]

IMO it's the French authorities trying to make heavy traffic use the autoroutes i.e. toll roads. They've tried in the past to force them to use a toll road if there is one nearby but that obviously failed- presumably the truckies found ways round that.
On our recent trip, using the N10, there did seem to be fewer trucks on the road but most were sticking to the 80kph limit. We did the same (3850kg) and, yes, it was a bit boring, but then we're never in a rush anywhere.

 

[Pilote87]

It might be that in the past problems were caused by HGVs doing the 6 mile overtake of a slightly slower HGV causing tailbacks of cars.

And it isn't just in France that the multi-mile overtake occurs. Once did virtually the complete length of the M26 behind a truck trying to overtake, not a line of other trucks, but just ONE other.

J

 

[mustaphapint]

The N10 has been our main route south on our last 3 trips and will be on the next. We're in no rush and still get there in the end.

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[Nicepix]

IMO it's the French authorities trying to make heavy traffic use the autoroutes i.e. toll roads. They've tried in the past to force them to use a toll road if there is one nearby but that obviously failed- presumably the truckies found ways round that.
On our recent trip, using the N10, there did seem to be fewer trucks on the road but most were sticking to the 80kph limit. We did the same (3850kg) and, yes, it was a bit boring, but then we're never in a rush anywhere.

After almost five years of trying to push the accelerator of our 3 tonne, 73bhp, 1986 Le Voyageur's pedal through the floor I'm still enjoying the novelty of cruising at 110kph in the new van

 

[jongood]

IMO it's the French authorities trying to make heavy traffic use the autoroutes i.e. toll roads. They've tried in the past to force them to use a toll road if there is one nearby but that obviously failed- presumably the truckies found ways round that.
On our recent trip, using the N10, there did seem to be fewer trucks on the road but most were sticking to the 80kph limit. We did the same (3850kg) and, yes, it was a bit boring, but then we're never in a rush anywhere.

I agree entirely, I cant see any other reason for it. I think its likely that we will find it being 'improved ' in the near future with toll booths to pay for it. But even having said that its still a damn site easier than UK roads.

 

[Top Hat]

Don't forget if you are 3.5T it also applies to you

as does the 80kph speed limit and it's strange to see the French Motorhomers sticking to it probably something to do with the number of Speed cameras which can be placed anywhere on the central divide and which can differentiate between HGV and cars

Done it in car and motorhome and watched HGV after HGV ignore the limit and get flashed because they overtook something then next trip the cameras were somewhere else

I'm a little confused, is it any vehicle 3.5t or under ? or is it only car's 3.5t or under that can over take

 

[JJ]

80 kph is plenty fast enough for me... any faster and I risk the washing up water spilling out of the sink...

JJ (Superior and Smug)

 

[tonka]

I'm a little confused, is it any vehicle 3.5t or under ? or is it only car's 3.5t or under that can over take

You will see 2 types of the no overtaking sign... One shows a truck in red on the left and usually have the 3.5t stated below.. So no overtaking by trucks / goods vehicles over 3.5t. Motorhomes will be allowed to overtake as they are not goods vehicles.
There is also another where there is a car in red on the left and again the 3.5t below.. This means no overtaking by any vehicle over 3.5t and that includes motorhomes..

Thats my understanding of the rules..

http://www.ukmotorists.com/french-road-signs.pdf

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[JockandRita]

Thats my understanding of the rules..

That's my understanding of the rules, and signage on that particular route too. Unfortunately, it is mind numbing in our MH.

Cheers,

Jock.

 

[bigtree]

I agree entirely, I cant see any other reason for it. I think its likely that we will find it being 'improved ' in the near future with toll booths to pay for it. But even having said that its still a damn site easier than UK roads.

They are building another road and can be seen running parallel to the N10 in places.

 

[Sheddy]

As a tag axle and clearly over 3.5t, we try to do the section from Poitiers, Angouleme, around Bordeaux and down to the Spanish border on a Sunday, which generally avoids the majority of trucks and the overtaking problems.
Cheers
Ed

 

[tonka]

They are building another road and can be seen running parallel to the N10 in places.

Corect that's at the south end. Part was / is single track and where it is dual carriageway they have the old crossroads in place. The new section of road will do away with all the single roads and better junctions from what I have seen.

 

[Madcaravanner]

You will see 2 types of the no overtaking sign... One shows a truck in red on the left and usually have the 3.5t stated below.. So no overtaking by trucks / goods vehicles over 3.5t. Motorhomes will be allowed to overtake as they are not goods vehicles.
There is also another where there is a car in red on the left and again the 3.5t below.. This means no overtaking by any vehicle over 3.5t and that includes motorhomes..

Thats my understanding of the rules..

http://www.ukmotorists.com/french-road-signs.pdf

There is the 80kph with 3.5t underneath with no vehicle identifier meaning any vehicle 3.5t (gross weight) or over is limited to 80

there a truck no overtaking sign with 3.5t or 7.5t meaning anything over those GROSS weights cannot overtake

there is a no overtaking sign with a car symbol with 3.5t sign meaning any vehicle over 3.5t gross cannot overtake

plus the new speed cameras are linked to pressure sensors in the road that can accurately weight

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[ludo]

Don't forget if you are 3.5T it also applies to you

as does the 80kph speed limit and it's strange to see the French Motorhomers sticking to it probably something to do with the number of Speed cameras which can be placed anywhere on the central divide and which can differentiate between HGV and cars

Done it in car and motorhome and watched HGV after HGV ignore the limit and get flashed because they overtook something then next trip the cameras were somewhere else

Sorry, but I think that you might find that the 3.5t sign actually means vehicles exceeding 3.5t and not those that weigh 3.5t.

See,

http://www.ukmotorists.com/french-road-signs.pdf

page 9 and 32, for example.

 

[mustaphapint]

80 kph is plenty fast enough for me... any faster and I risk the washing up water spilling out of the sink...

JJ (Superior and Smug)

Totally agree, any faster and we risk the kettle coming off the stove while the co-pilot is making the coffee.

 

[Dorwyn]

meaning any vehicle over 3.5t gross cannot overtake

plus the new speed cameras are linked to pressure sensors in the road that can accurately weight

So-o-o. I was flashed having just overtaken a HGV in our 3.3 ton van. So I must have been overweight. It's all that wine I bought back!

 

[Nicepix]

So-o-o. I was flashed having just overtaken a HGV in our 3.3 ton van. So I must have been overweight. It's all that wine I bought back!

Being flashed is one thing. Getting a fine and points deduction is another thing entirely. It is a regular occurrence to activate a weight restricted speed camera in our sub 3,5t vehicle on the N10, but we do not receive notification of speeding. Those weight sensors built into the road are not as accurate as you might have thought.

 

[The Dotties]

I spent a large part of my working life behind the wheel of lorries or coach/buses, but I’m of the opinion now that large sections of our motorways and dual carriageway roads would benefit from an overtaking ban being placed on 7.5t and above. Certainly on two and three lane sections. No need to restrict their speed, they’re governed to 56 anyway. The roads have become far more busy in recent years.
I used to be as guilty as the next driver for spending far too much time trying to overtake another truck with barely any difference in our speed, and I’d be buggered if I was going to give way to somebody overtaking me

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