Motorhome Tyres

[Moss]

I know this has been spoken about many times, but I still find it a complete minefield. Like many others I have inherited MIchelin Agilis camper tyres that feel like your running on square wheels. They are due to be replaced and I want to get an set of reliable good value for money tyres that don't have to be inflated to 80 psi. My MH is a Swift plated 3750 kg with axle weights of 1850 front and 2000 rear. I have been considering Continental VanContact A/S Ultra 225/75 R16 10PR my current tyres are 225/75 R16 CP 116 are these a suitable replacement? Im just worried about the axle weights.

225/75 R16C 121/120R 10PR​

 

[Jofang]

I have had both Michelin and Continental tyres on different motorhomes and presently run Conti's that were fitted new by the Hymer dealer. I found the Michelins to be a softer ride but others on the forum will tell you the opposite. I've found the Conti's to be more stable on corners where the Michelins tended to wallow and needed reduced speed.

 

[Moss]

I have had both Michelin and Continental tyres on different motorhomes and presently run Conti's that were fitted new by the Hymer dealer. I found the Michelins to be a softer ride but others on the forum will tell you the opposite. I've found the Conti's to be more stable on corners where the Michelins tended to wallow and needed reduced speed.

Thanks for your response, the Michelins are horrendous on ours but its not helped by the tyre pressure being 80psi

 

[RM_Marine]

I've been running these for 3mths and they are alright but not great when in a field at the Oliver Mount in Scarborough but nor where anyone's else's tyres

 

[Otter Spotter]

Conti Vancontact 4 season tyres, great in the wet and snow and not bad on wet grass.

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[Hettie's Crew]

Check what tyre pressures you could have using this chart from Continental, nothing available from Michelin.
Are those axle weights actual weighed or just the quoted weights on the plate.
My front is plated 1850 but actual 1650ish and rear plated 2000 but often 2100.

https://blobs.continental-tires.com/www8/servlet/blob/85806/71c96d7b7f5265e7fdacae088b19f8e6/download-technical-databook-data.pdf

 

[Silver-Fox]

They are due to be replaced and I want to get an set of reliable good value for money tyres that don't have to be inflated to 80 psi.

Why running at 80psi seems a tad high?

 

[dash300]

Why running at 80psi seems a tad high?

It's what is specified for the Michelin Camper tyres. On a hot day those running pressures are going to be even higher!!
I've just reduced mine to 65psi and that has made a significant difference to comfort. I could always increase them if the van was going to be static for a long period.

 

[Emmit]

Mantra,

Look at any vehicles spec.
I absolutely guarantee that in EVERY case, (except vans shod with Michelin camping tyres) it will state a different tyre pressure according to the load being carried.
ie. Our Passat says 38psi when there are 2 on board but 42psi when carrying five peeps.

Regardless of manufacturer, I would go with a pressure commensurate with the load.

 

[Hettie's Crew]

My view on the Michelin CP tyres is run them at the recommended by Michelin high psi figures, then get rid asap.
They are designed to run with the very stiff side walls, hence they are not designed to flex a great deal. Running them at lower pressures will cause the side walls to flex beyond their designed parameters, followed by cracking and possible blow out.
I changed to Continental Vancontact 4Season, a size up, recommend by Continental technical dept and run at much lower more comfortable pressures.

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[Moss]

Why running at 80psi seems a tad high?

That's what Michelin and Alco state I think its ridiculous but, tyres are the only thing keeping me on the road and upright hence why I'm very wary about the whole thing

 

[kev54]

That's what Michelin and Alco state I think its ridiculous but, tyres are the only thing keeping me on the road and upright hence why I'm very wary about the whole thing

Totally agree with your concerns Moss Many forum replies to me say that’s way too high - but I can’t ignore the (supposedly) professional advice from the manufacturers…

 

[Hettie's Crew]

Totally agree with your concerns Moss Many forum replies to me say that’s way too high - but I can’t ignore the (supposedly) professional advice from the manufacturers…

I share those concerns which is why I switched to Continental who are by far more helpful.

 

[dunnah01]

My front is plated 1850 but actual 1650ish and rear plated 2000 but often 2100.

Are you sure you want to fess up to being overweight on a public forum

 

[Hettie's Crew]

Are you sure you want to fess up to being overweight on a public forum

I should have explained I’ve uprated since those plates and now at 1950/2240 with rear air assist and uprated tyres.

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[enark]

I know this has been spoken about many times, but I still find it a complete minefield. Like many others I have inherited MIchelin Agilis camper tyres that feel like your running on square wheels. They are due to be replaced and I want to get an set of reliable good value for money tyres that don't have to be inflated to 80 psi. My MH is a Swift plated 3750 kg with axle weights of 1850 front and 2000 rear. I have been considering Continental VanContact A/S Ultra 225/75 R16 10PR my current tyres are 225/75 R16 CP 116 are these a suitable replacement? Im just worried about the axle weights.

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225/75 R16C 121/120R 10PR​

Mine too on Michelins, dropping the front tps to 65 made a massive difference.

 

[BikerGraham]

I have just changed to cross climate campers from the original Agilis campers. I run them at the recommended pressures of 69 & 80.

The cross climates give a far better ride in terms often comfort.

So a great deal of effort must have been put into designing them by Michelin to make them less hard a ride.

No doubt spurred on by comments from forums like this. Obviously as well as others.

 

[Jimuck]

The plate on the door jam of our 2020 bailey says 50 at front and 70 rears. Michelin cp tyres fitted. Tpms also set for this.( by bailey I assume)

 

[EuroTrotters]

as I keep saying, Michelin cross climates are a very poor tyre in my opinion. A lot like them on here and I am sure they are a better tyre than many others. But not for me.

I do run Michelin and Toyo winters.

 

[Lenny HB]

Got rid of the crap Michelin camper hard ride and sod all grip not fit for purpose.
Now have Toyo Observe Van, nice ride good grip and handling.
Front 1930kg, 56psi, Rear 2300kg, 69psi.

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[ManTheVan]

Michelin cross climates for us. 3.5bar in front. 4.5bar at rear. Superb ride and v quiet. Brilliant grip too, in the wet or mud.

 

[Lagotto]

I reckon Tyres are a bit like snake oil. The big manufacturers dont make bad tyres, years of R+D and testing. Motorhomes are big heavy lumps that lumber along usually at moderate speeds, not in a hurry. For years ive heard people talk about their car tyres, this is best, that is best, when quite frankly they probably couldnt tell the difference in a blind test. Years ago the main topic was all about mileage, and that was real, some tyres were recognised as giving better mileage (generaly Michelin). This tended to be attributed to more flexible side walls, higher mileage at the expense of perhaps easier damage to the sides (kerbing etc). Now if we are talking Racing, then we are in a whole different area, where every second on a lap is crucial, where a wet/dry surface can mean win or lose. But we dont race motorhomes (I hope) so there is a compromise between load rating, road surfaces, mileage (not talking about specialist snow tyres). I think the advice is to make sure they are circular, black rubber and at least one on each corner

 

[MichaelT]

Thanks for your response, the Michelins are horrendous on ours but its not helped by the tyre pressure being 80psi

No need for 80 psi. Michelin say 65 on front and 80 on rear but we run out 4.5t plated on 72 rear and 62 front.

 

[Pulteney]

Just parted company with my 5 year old Michelin Agilis tyres which had started to crack. Michelin had advised me to run them at 80 (rear) and 65 (front) psi. Hard unforgiving and noisy ride!
Now fitted Pirelli Carrier Camper which Pirelli tell me to go for 65 and 56.
What a difference - quieter, smoother and altogether better drive.
I got the CP rated tyres that I was advised to use and at reasonable price as Halfords had a 15% discount offer on 4 tyres!

 

[MichaelT]

Just parted company with my 5 year old Michelin Agilis tyres which had started to crack. Michelin had advised me to run them at 80 (rear) and 65 (front) psi. Hard unforgiving and noisy ride!
Now fitted Pirelli Carrier Camper which Pirelli tell me to go for 65 and 56.
What a difference - quieter, smoother and altogether better drive.
I got the CP rated tyres that I was advised to use and at reasonable price as Halfords had a 15% discount offer on 4 tyres!

Do they have 3 peaks symbols

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[Pulteney]

No, they’re not M+S or three peaks. These are primarily summer tyres - A rated for wet weather.

 

[Howard B]

Michelin cross climates for us. 3.5bar in front. 4.5bar at rear. Superb ride and v quiet. Brilliant grip too, in the wet or mud.

Where did you get those pressure settings from?
Thanks

 

[VMax Martin]

I have just changed to cross climate campers from the original Agilis campers. I run them at the recommended pressures of 69 & 80.

The cross climates give a far better ride in terms often comfort.

So a great deal of effort must have been put into designing them by Michelin to make them less hard a ride.

No doubt spurred on by comments from forums like this. Obviously as well as others.

I have just done the same, the new cross climate is way better.

 

[Swamp]

My view on the Michelin CP tyres is run them at the recommended by Michelin high psi figures, then get rid asap.
They are designed to run with the very stiff side walls, hence they are not designed to flex a great deal. Running them at lower pressures will cause the side walls to flex beyond their designed parameters, followed by cracking and possible blow out.
I changed to Continental Vancontact 4Season, a size up, recommend by Continental technical dept and run at much lower more comfortable pressures.

Hi,
What was the reason for changing to tyres “a size up”?
Is there a benefit I’m not aware of?
Thanks

 

[treblid]

I have just done the same, the new cross climate is way better.

Is that Crossclimate Camping tyres or Agilis CrossClimate normal van tyres. They are different things.