Motorcycle Trailer et al

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Hi all

I'm considering buying a motorcycle trailer so that I can bring my adventure motorcycle away with us when we take our camper van away.

My first question is about rear facing cameras. I have a built in rear camera on the van which only activates when reverse gear is engaged. I'm not sure but I did think there was a way in which this can be converted such that it can be activated on demand rather than only for reversing. Appreciate any advice on that point.

At this early stage (pre-purchase), I'm thinking that I ideally do need a rear facing camera so that I can keep an eye on my bike and trailer rather than only when reversing. Open to thoughts on this from anyone that currently tows a bike trailer.

I have spent a lot of time investigating which type of trailer might be best suited to my requirements and have concluded that a rigid trailer is probably going to be best. There are folding trailers on the market but one which is stable enough to safely load a 250kg motorcycle are very expensive. The folding aspect offers much more flexibility in terms of storage and therefore security, particularly when stored at home. A folding trailer could theoretically fit in our garage whereas a rigid trailer would need to be stored on our driveway.

I am as concerned about security as I am about the safety of my motorcycle when loading/travelling. The volume of trailer theft is extremely worrying and disheartening. I'm less concerned about security whilst away in the van because I would typically only stay on recognised large official sites that have secure entry and exit and I also have a wire loop that could integrate the trailer into the van's alarm system. I know that this doesn't offer any guarantees but it is likely to be more secure than most alternatives.

I have cctv covering our drive so hopefully this would offer some deterrent but this would depend on how time-consuming a theft might be. I would therefore need a pretty decent chain and ground anchor in order to avoid the proverbial 20 second angle grinder attack. My potential supplier of the new trailer agrees about the security risk and says that some of his customers have taken to removing their trailer's wheels whilst parked up on the drive!

So, I'm still weighing up the positive aspects of being able to tour with both camper and bike - and they are significant - versus the negatives. I would therefore be interested in the views and advice of others who may have relevant experience of doing this. Suggestions of effective security measures / equipment would also be appreciated.
 
I don't tow a bike trailer. I tow a car and find permament rear cameras dead handy, in fact i have 3 cameras and two displays,(centre mirror positioned and dual Din). I dont mess about with the reverse sensor but the din setup alows the camera on all time but then switches of and back on when reverse selected.
Trailer selection. To me the foldaway is the only option in your position. Look at alternatives, even buying a specific bike for touring. If Money is an issue rob a Bank or marry a rich person. The only real problem with money is coming to terms with spending so much on so little.
Having a second vehicle is always an advantage, having any any Bike will have a better grinnability factor than a car.
 
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I ideally do need a rear facing camera so that I can keep an eye on my bike and trailer rather than only when reversing.
I've towed my m/bike thousands miles around Europe and don't have a camera but I have fitted a vertical bamboo stick with a flag at the top to the rear of the bike. I can see the flag in my rear view and wing mirrors at all times, otherwise I only see that the bike's still secure when going around a roundabout.
 
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These are excellent trailers, tow really well but sadly only rated for 240kg bike.

 
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If you have a Garmin satnav you can pair it wirelessly with the Garmin rear view camera, works for me.
 
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These are excellent trailers, tow really well but sadly only rated for 240kg bike.

Thanks for the link. I've looked at these and discounted them for anything other than a lightweight bike due to the loading risk. A rigid trailer offers 'infill plates' and a ramp which allows you to put your feet down when riding the bike up onto the trailer. I decided that it would be dangerous and risky trying to walk a heavy bike onto a trailer like this. I do have a much lighter dual sport bike which I want to use for trail riding so it would be suitable for that but if I buy a trailer, I ideally want to be free to take whichever bike. As I mentioned, there are one or two foldaway trailers that do offer the payload and loading stability that I want but they are so expensive, it's hard to justify to myself, never mind my better half! I'm just working my way through the alternatives but I suspect I know what the outcome might be.
 
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I use one of these, reversing is no problem as the wheels swivel
Wow. I thought I'd completed my research into this. I looked at tail racks and believed that the weight limit was around 150kg which was just shy of the weight of my dual sport bike. This seems to open up a new possibility without the hassle of a trailer. My adventure bike might be just over 250kg when fuelled but I would imagine there's a certain tolerance built in for safety. I will definitely be investigating this further so thank you for that.
 
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Motolug trailer. Can be dismantled on site or for storage.
I could see my top box in my rear view camera.
Thanks for the link. I looked at these and felt that it would be too unstable/risky for loading my adventure bike. Fine for my dual sport. I think I watched a 'Lamb Chop' you tube video (a well known biker/video blogger) of him and a mate trying to put one of these together and I pretty much ran for cover!

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Wow. I thought I'd completed my research into this. I looked at tail racks and believed that the weight limit was around 150kg which was just shy of the weight of my dual sport bike. This seems to open up a new possibility without the hassle of a trailer. My adventure bike might be just over 250kg when fuelled but I would imagine there's a certain tolerance built in for safety. I will definitely be investigating this further so thank you for that.
I know a few funsters, Jaws have bad experiences with those type putting forces on the tow bar
 
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I use one of these, a Cochet, which seems to fit your needs. They also do cycle racks for it which mount either side of the loaded M/C.
 
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Hi.

We have had a BMW R1200GS and now a 1250RT that we tow in a trailer.

We started off with an open, flat bed-style trailer. The weight and size of the GS made getting it on and off the trailer always a bit tricky and stressful, as you have mentioned. From a security point of view, the bike was always on view and travelling with a bike cover over it wasn't ideal.

We then went for a Debon trailer and haven't looked back. Yes, they are very expensive but they do keep their value well so when you come to sell it, you should get a good return. Not only is the bike secure, easy to get in and out and out of view but all of our gear goes in there too. I do appreciate the security issue you have about parking it on your drive though.

We always have a rear camera view of our trailer when travelling and tend to detach, to make life easier, before too much reversing when at a campsite.

This is just our experience. Hope it helps you to make your decision.
 
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I use one of these, a Cochet, which seems to fit your needs. They also do cycle racks for it which mount either side of the loaded M/C.

Yep, thanks for the link. That's the expensive one I was alluding to. It looks like an extremely well made piece of kit. I emailed the company that makes these in France to see if they deal direct but I didn't receive a reply. There are a couple of companies in the UK that I'm aware of that import them and sell them. One company is based in Bristol and deals in many things motorhome related so I was inclined to pay them a visit. There is another company in the Birmingham area I think that imports a copy style trailer from Poland which is cheaper. One thing holding me back (aside from price) is that I had a lengthy discussion with a trailer builder who said that he tried to get a similar design approved for use by the DOT (or whichever dept it is) and they refused to license it. They allegedly said that the design relied on the user placing a locking bolt in the frame to stop the trailer from lowering whilst being towed and therefore would not entertain the design. He said that these trailers may well not be licensed for use in the UK as a result. I was going to look into this further but I wanted to explore the other options given the high price. I think there is an American design which is similar again but I'm not aware of anyone who imports them. I'd be very interested in your experience of this trailer and how happy you are with it and where you sourced it from. Please feel free to PM me any info if you would prefer. Thanks very much for the response.
 
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Hi.

We have had a BMW R1200GS and now a 1250RT that we tow in a trailer.

We started off with an open, flat bed-style trailer. The weight and size of the GS made getting it on and off the trailer always a bit tricky and stressful, as you have mentioned. From a security point of view, the bike was always on view and travelling with a bike cover over it wasn't ideal.

We then went for a Debon trailer and haven't looked back. Yes, they are very expensive but they do keep their value well so when you come to sell it, you should get a good return. Not only is the bike secure, easy to get in and out and out of view but all of our gear goes in there too. I do appreciate the security issue you have about parking it on your drive though.

We always have a rear camera view of our trailer when travelling and tend to detach, to make life easier, before too much reversing when at a campsite.

This is just our experience. Hope it helps you to make your decision.
Yep, this is very helpful to me as are all similar experiences. I was first interested in having a trailer whilst away on a bike tour. We met a guy who was transporting a moto bike in his (non camper) van and slept in it as well. We got chatting and he strongly advised against buying an open trailer where the bike would be on display due to the associated security risks. He was adamant that the bike needs to be out of sight otherwise it would likely only be a matter of time before someone targeted it and followed until an opportunity arose. He claimed it had happened to him. I looked at the Debon trailers and it was cost prohibitive at the time as I was only looking to transport my dual sport bike for trail riding. A great looking trailer. I did consider buying one for two larger bikes so that a mate could travel with if I wanted to go further afield for touring but I seem to recall that the width was too restrictive for two bikes at the lower end of the range. It is looking like I will just have to accept a high price tag if I want the best stability/security as a previous poster mentioned. Your point about the value retention is well made. Would need to think about storage when not in use.

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Wow. I thought I'd completed my research into this. I looked at tail racks and believed that the weight limit was around 150kg which was just shy of the weight of my dual sport bike. This seems to open up a new possibility without the hassle of a trailer. My adventure bike might be just over 250kg when fuelled but I would imagine there's a certain tolerance built in for safety. I will definitely be investigating this further so thank you for that.
I strongly suggest that you search on here for threads on the Hydratrail.
 
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