More MOT Madness!

[Geo]

Our '59 zephyr has an engine diaper and gearbox blanket but dont need an mot anymore, never had a problem when it did though
Unless he is your friend I find it odd he removed the part before he mot'd it, should have just refused to test

He cant unless it fits a reason to refuse tick box

 

[Otter Spotter]

Our garage removes the dash cam from the w/screen before they start the MOT

Is that so you don’t have footage of him sitting around having a fag instead of doing his job?

 

[mpdcymru]

Our garage removes the dash cam from the w/screen before they start the MOT

Yes, I have had this done on one of my cars and I can accept the reason that it was done.

 

[34127]

I'm not a qualified engineer. But vehicles will need to comply with construction and use regulations amongst other stuff. Components, even for the more customised vehicles, will usually have been subjected to a comprehensive design and testing regime to establish suitability. Your garage will have seen the modification and in the absence of documentation that shows compliance (H&S type paperwork today runs the world), they won't have been able to permit the change. If you can show compliance, which no doubt is more than simply you saying it's OK, then you'd be permitted to keep it - but also be careful that your insurers don't see something as a modification that they also want to approve.

So are you saying that all self builds must be tested by competent engineer to confirm that all equipment fitted is correct and suitable and that it has all been fitted according to proven standards.
I have yet to hear of an insurance company requesting such a statement or an MOT being refused for that reason.

 

[Ivory55]

At the end of the day if you don’t like the way it’s done buy an mot station and do your own.

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[gus-lopez]

get a shiny smooth pad stuck to the dashboard and attach to that.

Can't do that on my transit as all the dash tops are either openable covers or the centre is a 180º flop over cup holder.

 

[Kannon Fodda]

So are you saying that all self builds must be tested by competent engineer to confirm that all equipment fitted is correct and suitable and that it has all been fitted according to proven standards.
I have yet to hear of an insurance company requesting such a statement or an MOT being refused for that reason.

Yes and No. Ultimately stuff will be governed by regulations and you will need to comply. You can undertake a lot of work yourself, but if someone asks you're going to have to be able to justify it. Some things you might not be allowed to do unless you are certified - for example in buildings (not sure if it does transfer to motorhomes) gas appliances can only be touched by a gas safe registered engineer.

Most MH converters provide certificates of conformity so the end user knows all is above board. If buying a self build how would you know it's of an appropriate standard? It's a regular question for insurers whether the vehicle has been modified if only as it might affect replacement cost, but if you change engine power and stuff could you be changing risks?

 

[Geo]

At the end of the day if you don’t like the way it’s done buy an mot station and do your own.

Thats exactly what I did Ivory, But along came a man from the Ministry and pointed out whilst I am MoT testing I work for and on behalf of the secretary of State via the dept for transport administered by what we now call the DVSA I even have a correspondence from the Secretary of state addressed tome as My dear Colleague
Cut short the Man from the ministry said you might think you own the premises but when Testing we own you.
and so it is

 

[Ivory55]

Early lock down we had a puncture. The tyres were worn so brought 2 new for the back of the car. The tyres place went on about rusty discs and you must replace it’s dangerous and not working properly. About a couple of months later it goes in for mot and service etc. The garage said yes there is some rust on inner discs but the braking efficiency is ok so can not fail. Said wait till then and replace discs pads etc all in one go. There are experts and there are experts.

 

[teddybear]

Once had the M/H fail the MOT because they stated the spaces on the number plate were incorrect. The fact that the same garage had passed it the previous year without any comments was irrelevant

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[34127]

Yes and No. Ultimately stuff will be governed by regulations and you will need to comply. You can undertake a lot of work yourself, but if someone asks you're going to have to be able to justify it. Some things you might not be allowed to do unless you are certified - for example in buildings (not sure if it does transfer to motorhomes) gas appliances can only be touched by a gas safe registered engineer.

Most MH converters provide certificates of conformity so the end user knows all is above board. If buying a self build how would you know it's of an appropriate standard? It's a regular question for insurers whether the vehicle has been modified if only as it might affect replacement cost, but if you change engine power and stuff could you be changing risks?

The point I am making is that there must be ten of thousands of self builds and there is no requirement to have any conversion checked and tested by a competent engineer. Some insurance companies may require photographs and or evidence of value when a self build is insured on a guaranteed value basis but they don't ask for proof of standard of conversion or compliance with any safety standard.

 

[Littlewheels]

Check the engine number and VIN plate match the documentation, I imagine. Or condition of suspension strut top mounts, engine mounts - lots of things worth looking at under the hood.

Since the year dot always has been a requirement

Always done it for mine. The emissions machine won't allow the test to start if the engine isn't up to temperature. The emissions test itself obviously uses an exhaust probe.

l had a Test done at 3.00pm Friday and they never raised the Bonnet l can only comment on my own observations.

 

[bigwood]

Management has just reminded me that her father used to put a blanket over the engine on his Reliant Regal, the duck.
At one point he set off to the shops without removing it. He called the AA out because there was a strange smell. He was lucky to still have a car, plastic melts quickly in a fire.

 

[Geo]

"l had a Test done at 3.00pm Friday and they never raised the Bonnet l can only comment on my own observations. "


Then you have been cheated, and recieved a very poor MoT examination, you can not under any circumstances carry out an MoT test without lifting the Bonnet. If spotted by DVLA secret shoppers or reported the guy would loose his licence to test and the Station its authority to test

 

[Peter & Elaine]

AEC 760
Great engine

And leyland 680
both built to last with a good driver

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[Peter & Elaine]

Mot testers think they know everything.

computer says NO