Migrant issues near Gravelines

[Minxy]

Be careful around Gravelines etc as there are clashes between the Gendarmes and migrants

The French town caught up in ‘war’ between police and migrants

For years, residents of Grand-Fort-Philippe in the north of France lived a life largely undisturbed by migrants who attempted crossings from their local beaches. Relations were cordial, even.

uk.news.yahoo.com

 

[stewartwebr]

We were parked up there about 7 weeks ago and hundreds of what looked like migrants were walking from I assumed the bus station towards the beach. No idea where they were going and caused no issues and were being monitored by Police vans. Some of them looked very down trodden and tired. We were saying today perhaps some of them were the ones who tragically died today, pregnant woman and children, so very very sad. It’s a tragic situation and unfortunately I can see no solution.

 

[The Wino]

France sees Channel migrant deaths as a problem of Britain's making

Many in France deeply resent the way their own lives have been transformed by a crisis they see as British-made.

www.bbc.co.uk

Interesting article on how they see the migrant issue in the channel in France. I'd never thought of it being easier to work in the UK without documents than in other countries.

 

[gus-lopez]

France sees Channel migrant deaths as a problem of Britain's making

Many in France deeply resent the way their own lives have been transformed by a crisis they see as British-made.

www.bbc.co.uk

Interesting article on how they see the migrant issue in the channel in France. I'd never thought of it being easier to work in the UK without documents than in other countries.

Yes basically it is extremely hard in france ,The French will report the French working illegally, so no chance foreigners

 

[MichaelT]

Yes basically it is extremely hard in france ,The French will report the French working illegally, so no chance foreigners

Maybe something to do with ID cards, similarly to get healthcare and no doubt housing etc? Just sayin

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[VXman]

France sees Channel migrant deaths as a problem of Britain's making

Many in France deeply resent the way their own lives have been transformed by a crisis they see as British-made.

www.bbc.co.uk

Interesting article on how they see the migrant issue in the channel in France. I'd never thought of it being easier to work in the UK without documents than in other countries.

I've always felt we have very little control over stuff like that in the UK. (well, anything really - lack of police etc)

Part of the issue is our objection to control by authorities - one example opposition to ID cards.

 

[Nanniemate]

'Let them cross' was the phase that stood out to me

Then of course they are not the French problem .

It's a sad mess o ly ones benefitting are criminal gangs

 

[The Wino]

'Let them cross' was the phase that stood out to me

Then of course they are not the French problem .

It's a sad mess o ly ones benefitting are criminal gangs

But if the situation was reversed what would we say here! They are much more regulated with id cards etc why aren't we?

 

[Spriddler]

Yes basically it is extremely hard in france ,The French will report the French working illegally, so no chance foreigners

A very easy-going builder pal who retired to Normandy got roped in by ex-patriots to do various jobs for them. He was refused a business permit and although he spoke good French he occasionally suffered animosity from the staff and other local tradespeople when at the builders' merchants and other trade counters.

 

[Nanniemate]

But if the situation was reversed what would we say here! They are much more regulated with id cards etc why aren't we?

I'd like to think that we would try conserve life and not pack people into boats sending them towards possible death

As for ID cards someone would start screaming breach of human rights

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[MichaelT]

As for ID cards someone would start screaming breach of human rights

Those who moan about foreigners coming here to use the NHS

 

[EuroTrotters]

A very easy-going builder pal who retired to Normandy got roped in by ex-patriots to do various jobs for them. He was refused a business permit and although he spoke good French he occasionally suffered animosity from the staff and other local tradespeople when at the builders' merchants and other trade counters.

I get that in Spain.

When I am working on our house, I go to the Spanish builders merchants , rather than the British ones.

In my best Spanish , I will ask for “rollo de cobre” along with size .

Often the older trade counter staff will awkwardly switch to velenciano or Catalan.

So now I chose the places that are more helpful.

Shame about grand fort Philippe , we used to use the little aire on the estuary. Almost stopped their on the 8th August this year

 

[Ralphey]

We were parked up there about 7 weeks ago and hundreds of what looked like migrants were walking from I assumed the bus station towards the beach. No idea where they were going and caused no issues and were being monitored by Police vans. Some of them looked very down trodden and tired. We were saying today perhaps some of them were the ones who tragically died today, pregnant woman and children, so very very sad. It’s a tragic situation and unfortunately I can see no solution.

Yawn

 

[Ralphey]

Yes basically it is extremely hard in france ,The French will report the French working illegally, so no chance foreigners

By definition they can't be French working illegally..wake up

 

[stewartwebr]

Yawn

And what does that mean? The fact people are dying does not concern you?

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[Ralphey]

And what does that mean? The fact people are dying does not concern you?

All over the world people are dying...i don't have time left to worry about them .. Why don't you worry about someone sitting over their stove getting bombed by a cruise in Kiev instead of people just seeking benefits...chump

 

[Ralphey]

And what does that mean? The fact people are dying does not concern you?

And we've lost our way of life completely already where i live

 

[Ralphey]

Those who moan about foreigners coming here to use the NHS

Getting tit and cajone jobs off the back of my 14 hour shifts

 

[Wh05apk]

And we've lost our way of life completely already where i live

Why don't you move then? Unlike a lot of people you are free to move.

 

[MichaelT]

Getting tit and cajone jobs off the back of my 14 hour shifts

?

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[iandsm]

Getting tit and cajone jobs off the back of my 14 hour shifts

Would you please explain what that means

 

[stewartwebr]

All over the world people are dying...i don't have time left to worry about them .. Why don't you worry about someone sitting over their stove getting bombed by a cruise in Kiev instead of people just seeking benefits...chump

I’m sorry but your analogy is lost on me. As a caring person it concerns me and worries me when ANYONE regardless of nationality, gender, race etc dies needlessly, but guess that’s because I’m a caring person I have just scrolled through a few of your posts over the last few weeks and our moral compasses could not be further apart, therefore best I hit the ignore button for you. However, reading some of the comments and terminology you use I don’t think it shall be long before Jim hits the big ignore button for you. Remember, Karma is a cruel mistress

 

[iandsm]

I’m sorry but your analogy is lost on me. As a caring person it concerns me and worries me when ANYONE regardless of nationality, gender, race etc dies needlessly, but guess that’s because I’m a caring person I have just scrolled through a few of your posts over the last few weeks and our moral compasses could not be further apart, therefore best I hit the ignore button for you. However, reading some of the comments and terminology you use I don’t think it shall be long before Jim hits the big ignore button for you. Remember, Karma is a cruel mistress

I suppose there will always be a % of people in any given population who make one feel as you do. Happily that % is far far lower than the rest of the population.

 

[stewartwebr]

I suppose there will always be a % of people in any given population who make one feel as you do. Happily that % is far far lower than the rest of the population.

Looks like Jim is of the same opinion as I, he has sent him to Coventry.

 

[gus-lopez]

By definition they can't be French working illegally..wake up

so there are no british working illegaly on the black in the UK? plank

And we've lost our way of life completely already where i live

good to hear.move

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[Coastal Cruiser.]

Looks like Jim is of the same opinion as I, he has sent him to Coventry.

That was a given as soon as he posted