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Posted this on TV section forgot there was a question section so sorry for duplicate:

Just seen these when looking at a few threads about TV reception. We have a small, not very good external TV aerial on our PVC. I have also tried an Avtex aerial and the little dumpy ones with some success but a bit hit and miss. We are going to be staying in the Lakes over Christmas where TV reception is likely to be poor. These external aerials don’t seem too expensive. Would putting one of these on top of a pole outside be more suitable. I have seen others using them on different sites so wondered if one of them be the answer.
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This is what I use…..

SAC Electronics - Mini Compact Digital Freeview Log Aerial, LTE/4G Protected.​


on one of these

Vision Plus Telescopic Mast Pole​


edit: sorry, wrong aerial - now amended!
 
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Thanks @ AndyPK. Is the type of pole important? Can it be off any material or does the metal play a role. We do have a metal pole which may be of use. Certainly the aerial looks ideal.
 
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Sorry didn’t get my quote but correct should have been AndyPK

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No - a piece of wood would do! I bought the telescopic pole as it ‘telescopes’ down to about 1m, so easy to store in the ‘van when travelling, and it came with fittings to attach it to the ’van. (y)
 
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AndyPK said:
This is what I use…..

SAC Electronics - Mini Compact Digital Freeview Log Aerial, LTE/4G Protected.​


on one of these

Vision Plus Telescopic Mast Pole​


edit: sorry, wrong aerial - now amended!
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Hi Andy, can you post a link ? Might be interested in one of those.
 
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One other item that is very useful (at least it is to me!), is a signal-strength meter that you plug the aerial lead into whilst rotating the aerial to get the ‘best’ signal. This is the one I use…..

Amazon product ASIN B00BORLPQ6

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Couple more questions please AndyPK
Can the meter above be used with the other aerials such as that fix d on van and small portable ones to determine which is delivering most signal strength? Thinking about when just want a quick hour or so TV. Secondly, with the aerial I am getting, do I run the co-ax cable directly to the TV or can it go through the signal booster box that is fitted? Thanks
 
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Madmag said:
Couple more questions please AndyPK
Can the meter above be used with the other aerials such as that fix d on van and small portable ones to determine which is delivering most signal strength? Thinking about when just want a quick hour or so TV. Secondly, with the aerial I am getting, do I run the co-ax cable directly to the TV or can it go through the signal booster box that is fitted? Thanks
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Yes, the meter can be used with other aerials (and satellite dishes) if required.
The feed from your new Log P can be fed into the signal booster if need be - try it without to see if the signal is strong enough without. It all depends upon the location, but the meter should indicate if the signal you are receiving is ‘strong’ enough…..
I had an external aerial point fitted to the ‘van when we purchased it so as to avoid running the fly lead through a window. If you do need to do that, a short ‘flat’ co-ax lead will allow you to close the window (or door) without crushing it.(y)
 
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AndyPK Update if you air anyones interested! Bought the aerial and sorted a bracket attached to roof rails so that it could sit on a 2’pole above van. The idea was that the cable would then run through the skylight and plug into TV direct. Also purchased a flat piece of coaxial and a meter. Arrived on site, tried van aerial only managed about 15 programmes but showed good signal on metre ( maxview one) plugged new aerial in, virtually no signal no matter which way we directed it. So question is what have we done wrong. Possibilities I thought might be faulty connection somewhere as have a few joints Togo through. Haven’t tried it through the booster but if we aren’t getting more than one blue light on meter then didn’t think this would help much. Does it matter that we have converted all the connectors to push for using adaptors?
 
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Buy one similar to the Amazon pic above, it’s log periodic. They are the best in the uk. I use a small 60cm one and it’s fine in the Lakes. Screwfix used to sell them as well. You should also download the reception app to your phone , search Freepoint UK, it will tell you the mast direction and polarisation (which way to mount you aerial - vertical or horizontal) . Retune your tv at each location . Good luck

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Madmag said:
AndyPK Update if you air anyones interested! Bought the aerial and sorted a bracket attached to roof rails so that it could sit on a 2’pole above van. The idea was that the cable would then run through the skylight and plug into TV direct. Also purchased a flat piece of coaxial and a meter. Arrived on site, tried van aerial only managed about 15 programmes but showed good signal on metre ( maxview one) plugged new aerial in, virtually no signal no matter which way we directed it. So question is what have we done wrong. Possibilities I thought might be faulty connection somewhere as have a few joints Togo through. Haven’t tried it through the booster but if we aren’t getting more than one blue light on meter then didn’t think this would help much. Does it matter that we have converted all the connectors to push for using adaptors?
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Hi Madmag . Very strange not to get a signal - it does look as if it could be a bad connection somewhere - try using the signal booster to see if it improves matters……., not that it will help if it is a connection issue……
Did you try the aerial at home before you left to prove that it works? I assume that you’re using standard UHF push-in plugs/sockets rather than F-connectors - did you wire the plugs yourself, as they can cause issues if the inner and outer cores of the coax touch, even a single strand of the screening cable….. where abouts are you, and do you know what transmitter you should be receiving from? If it’s a secondary/relay transmitter, the aerial would need to be tilted 90 degrees on its side to allow for signal polarisation - they are different for main and secondary transmitters, normally being ‘horizontal’ and ‘vertical’ respectively, so the aerial need to be oriented to suit….. :unsure:
 
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Just home now. Didn’t try and fix it there as such poor signal area and no tools. Just watched BBC1 and not even that on last night as no phone signal, no Wi-Fi etc. on site at Keswick with very low cloud. Hoping to have a try now we are home. First step will be to check all the fittings then try aerial. I suspect it is the way we have wired it up. Thanks for your interest. Will see what gets sorted. What was interesting is how little TV we actually wanted to watch even over the Christmas period.
 
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The northern tv transmission tower burnt down a few months back so until rebuilt signal will be reduced
 
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