LEZ/ ULEZ CHARGES

[Bluethunder]

I have just been reading about the new charges in London,it seems to me that anyone who lives in the London orbital area and owns a motohome pre 2016 is now stuffed.
Considering how much we pay in RFL and for many only do 2000_ 4000 miles a year why the heck are we getting penalised.
Perhaps it would be a good idea for us all to lobby the government for a refund.

 

[clanjones]

Just checked ours which is a 2015 reg vehicle and it is fine. It is a Euro 5+ as I understand it, so worth checking it via the ulez checker.

 

[denisejoe]

Inside north and south circular but not including them

 

[cyberyacht]

Daughter lives inside LEZ and their old BMW cops the daily LEZ & ULEZ charge. They've worked out it's cheaper to pay for the times they use it rather than the expense of changing at the moment. I'll be OK to visit so long as I take OH's runabout and not the Moho although I'd be lucky to find a parking spot for that in Putney!

 

[Guigsy]

Daughter lives inside LEZ and their old BMW cops the daily LEZ & ULEZ charge. They've worked out it's cheaper to pay for the times they use it rather than the expense of changing at the moment. I'll be OK to visit so long as I take OH's runabout and not the Moho although I'd be lucky to find a parking spot for that in Putney!

Don't know, but isn't it massively more expensive if the vehicle is over 3.5t? So if you've got a smaller motorhome, it's probably economical to just pay when you need to use it. But for large mohos, it gets expensive very quickly!

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[Odd-no-more]

My daughter lives inside the expanded ULEZ and she has had to replace her car, her boy friend, who lives outside the zone has a car which is non-compliant so is not able to visit her unless he parks outside the zone and walks, he was out of work for months with the covid shutdown and cannot afford to replace it, she lives about 2 hundred yards inside the zone.

 

[Riverbankannie]

My daughter lives inside the expanded ULEZ and she has had to replace her car, her boy friend, who lives outside the zone has a car which is non-compliant so is not able to visit her unless he parks outside the zone and walks, he was out of work for months with the covid shutdown and cannot afford to replace it, she lives about 2 hundred yards inside the zone.

At least that is a doable walk, but I imagine many others will be parking on the same places just outside.

 

[EuroTrotters]

Ours is £315 plus per day.

When it was £200 I had forgotten .

We were heading to the ferry at Portsmouth. I found a rare IKEA cabinet I wanted to collect from inner London, £15. Gumtree .

I would of hit London around 11pm. The seller said as long as I arrived before 1am that would be fine.

Until I realised. It would have cost me £400. £200 in, £200 out.

Purchase cancelled

 

[chaser]

Ours is £315 plus per day.

When it was £200 I had forgotten .

We were heading to the ferry at Portsmouth. I found a rare IKEA cabinet I wanted to collect from inner London, £15. Gumtree .

I would of hit London around 11pm. The seller said as long as I arrived before 1am that would be fine.

Until I realised. It would have cost me £400. £200 in, £200 out.

Purchase cancelled

just rediculas numbers.

 

[nicholsong]

I own a house inside the LEZ and my MH was classified as 'Compliant' but not now that they have changed the rules.

I am thinking of taking a case to the Divisional Court on the basis that it is effectively 'Retrospective Legislation' and therefore Ultra Vires. But I am also thinking of selling the house as the rental return is now under 3% ROC, which I think I can better elsewhere with a mixture of Investment Trusts and Corporate Bonds.

Geoff

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[Zains Pops]

Our son lives inside the ULEZ . As luck would have it he’s borrowed our MH to take one of the grandsons on half term trip. He collected the van Sunday took it home for a Monday start, so hopefully he remembered the ULEZ charge Monday. £12.50. But we don’t know if the system is detailed enough to pick up vehicles leaving the zone rather than arriving In to it. Let’s see what happens?.

 

[Odd-no-more]

Our son lives inside the ULEZ . As luck would have it he’s borrowed our MH to take one of the grandsons on half term trip. He collected the van Sunday took it home for a Monday start, so hopefully he remembered the ULEZ charge Monday. £12.50. But we don’t know if the system is detailed enough to pick up vehicles leaving the zone rather than arriving In to it. Let’s see what happens?.

It works using existing cameras, my daughter, who lives just inside it said there's no camera on her route to and from home, also to get everyone there would have to be a camera on every single road off the north and south circular. She didn't want to risk it and spent a lot of money changing her car.

 

[mitzimad]

im 400 yards inside with a 2007 van 12.50 a day to use it i made the mistake of not mot ing it last week so will cost me an extra 12.50 to mot it

 

[Jim lea]

Interesting how selfish some can be with all the it’s going to cost me this /that and the other, yet no one has mentioned how many deaths attributed to air pollution in London. Yes it’s another cost, but that’s one of the main factors in effecting change in people’s behaviour, hitting in the pocket.
I’ve had a fleet of vans operating in GL so I can see both sides of the argument, surely ultimately we’re entitled to breathe the cleanest air possible.

 

[gus-lopez]

Interesting how selfish some can be with all the it’s going to cost me this /that and the other, yet no one has mentioned how many deaths attributed to air pollution in London. Yes it’s another cost, but that’s one of the main factors in effecting change in people’s behaviour, hitting in the pocket.
I’ve had a fleet of vans operating in GL so I can see both sides of the argument, surely ultimately we’re entitled to breathe the cleanest air possible.

If the vehicle needs to be 'cleaner' please explain to me how charging dirty ones to enter achieves that?
Why does it cost more for a heavier dirty one to eneter that is in fact far cleaner than a lighter dirty ones cheaper price?
it doesn't it is purely a tax.
If you do not want the older dirtier engined vehicles you ban them completely.Same as if you do not want smoking you ban tobacco.But they'd lose the tax then . That's what it is all about,money.

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[stevewagner]

If the vehicle needs to be 'cleaner' please explain to me how charging dirty ones to enter achieves that?
Why does it cost more for a heavier dirty one to eneter that is in fact far cleaner than a lighter dirty ones cheaper price?
it doesn't it is purely a tax.
If you do not want the older dirtier engined vehicles you ban them completely.Same as if you do not want smoking you ban tobacco.But they'd lose the tax then . That's what it is all about,money.

I think it’s more about deterring people from bringing dirtier vehicles in to the capital. There are increasing numbers of people suffering from pollution related illnesses and in particular children with asthma. They have to do something and this is the least worse option.

 

[mitzimad]

Interesting how selfish some can be with all the it’s going to cost me this /that and the other, yet no one has mentioned how many deaths attributed to air pollution in London. Yes it’s another cost, but that’s one of the main factors in effecting change in people’s behaviour, hitting in the pocket.
I’ve had a fleet of vans operating in GL so I can see both sides of the argument, surely ultimately we’re entitled to breathe the cleanest air possible.

ive had this convesation on a facebook group where i was accused of killing her babies as i pointed out mr K is happy for me to kill her babies for 12.50 a day

 

[nicholsong]

If the vehicle needs to be 'cleaner' please explain to me how charging dirty ones to enter achieves that?
Why does it cost more for a heavier dirty one to eneter that is in fact far cleaner than a lighter dirty ones cheaper price?
it doesn't it is purely a tax.
If you do not want the older dirtier engined vehicles you ban them completely.Same as if you do not want smoking you ban tobacco.But they'd lose the tax then . That's what it is all about,money.

I agree.

When I lived in LEZ my MH with Euro 3 2.8Jtd would be exempt if under 3.5t but not when uprated to 3850kg, same engine same emissions. Ridiculous.

I sent them photo of original 3500kg plate - 'Exempt'

The LEZ charge is disproportionate to the problem: if a MH stored outside the LEZ(for parking restriction reasons) has to come to a house inside the LEZ once a year to load up for a 3-month trip the owner has to pay hundreds of pounds for what might be a few kilometres.

Geoff