It’s gonna get busy

[Odd-no-more]

Because of family commitments we are stuck in the south of England, we need to be within swift travel time back home. We normally stay on the small cs sites so we will be ok I hope

 

[jockaneezer]

There was an article on Radio 4 last week about Aircrew suffering the effects of prolonged organophosphate inhalation, including a couple of deaths. They put the cause down to the source of cabin air, which is "bled off" the jet engine. If the engine labyrinth seals aren't in good condition, oil fumes, containing these organophosphates can circulate throughout the plane.

 

[Captain Pants]

Why don't you research the information before posting?

Exactly, what’s the point of raising anxiety levels with conjecture? Far too much of that going on which helps nobody.

 

[DJT]

Exactly, what’s the point of raising anxiety levels with conjecture? Far too much of that going on which helps nobody.

Take note BBC NEWS!!??

 

[SpeedyDux]

Take note BBC NEWS!!??

That was a viewer's complaint on Newswatch this morning. As if BBC News editors will take any notice. They always know what's best for us. Might as well scrap Newswatch.

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[DJT]

Maybe we should wear marigold gloves

My OH used to love marigold gloves but they now bring her out in a rash!!
So I have had to stop wearing them??
DJT

 

[Captain Pants]

For those of you who want or need to fly (that includes me), there is some very useful information on the WHO site, extracts below:

The quality of aircraft cabin air is carefully controlled. Ventilation rates provide a total change of air 20–30 times per hour. Most modern aircraft have recirculation systems, which recycle up to 50% of cabin air. The recirculated air is usually passed through HEPA (high-efficiency particulate air) filters, of the type used in hospital operating theatres and intensive care units, which trap dust particles, bacteria, fungi and viruses.

Transmission of infection may occur between passengers who are seated in the same area of an aircraft, usually as a result of the infected individual coughing or sneezing or by touch (direct contact or contact with the same parts of the aircraft cabin and furnishings that other passengers touch). This is no different from any other situation in which people are close to each other, such as on a train or bus or in a theatre.

Transmission of tuberculosis (TB) on board commercial aircraft during long-haul flights was reported during the 1980s, but no case of active TB disease resulting from exposure on board has been identified subsequently.

During the outbreak of severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) in 2003, the risk of transmission of the disease in aircraft was found to be very low.

 

[TinaLes]

There was an article on Radio 4 last week about Aircrew suffering the effects of prolonged organophosphate inhalation, including a couple of deaths. They put the cause down to the source of cabin air, which is "bled off" the jet engine. If the engine labyrinth seals aren't in good condition, oil fumes, containing these organophosphates can circulate throughout the plane.

And what happens to all that expelled Fart air?, If they served Chicken Curry &Rice to 300 plus passengers, with no fresh air recycling, there probably would be a few deaths, and Oh Please! dont light a match, that old chestnut never worked, and would be catastrophic in that enclosed environment.
LES

 

[poppycamper]

There was an article on Radio 4 last week about Aircrew suffering the effects of prolonged organophosphate inhalation, including a couple of deaths. They put the cause down to the source of cabin air, which is "bled off" the jet engine. If the engine labyrinth seals aren't in good condition, oil fumes, containing these organophosphates can circulate throughout the plane.

Thought that what Gin and tonic was for????

 

[Shaders]

I think a lot off people will also stay at home instead off going to the sea side and big crowds off people as I live in devon an it already quieter than usual for this time off year

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[Shaders]

Personally It not stop me going any were to be honest though as said before if you gona get it you gona get it on a note off interest they said before that devon has the highest number off cases in the country ? hang on I live in devon oops but hey not worried still think I go yorkshire for a week

 

[R1guy]

Personally It not stop me going any were to be honest though as said before if you gona get it you gona get it on a note off interest they said before that devon has the highest number off cases in the country ? hang on I live in devon oops but hey not worried still think I go yorkshire for a week

It is already here, it is everywhere. I don't understand the panic. We can not stop it spreading we just need to be careful and protect ourselves as much as possible. I am so much more conscious of how many times a day I touch my handsome face .
For most people it's only a bit of snot for a few days anyway.

 

[jezport]

Wild camping is the way forward.

 

[busby]

....err yup

Been predicted since 2016, and some would say even before that.
Simply on the basis that the £/€ ratio would not be in our favour.
And who wants to sit in 2 day queues at the ports.

The sensible money has already invested in UK based campsites, pubs and traditional sea side holiday towns.
Welcome to the party, better late than never.

(CV is just a Brucie Bonus)

Why will there be 2 day queues at the ports? BUSBY.

 

[Brains]

Why will there be 2 day queues at the ports? BUSBY.

in 2016 the Dutch, who have considerably less ports than the UK started to employ 1,000 extra customs officials, just to deal with UK imports from 2021.
The Belgians, with only 3 sea ports followed suit, with 95 extra officials for Zebrugge alone
The French have employed 'considerably more' but have not given numbers, but the figure has a comma in it.

The 'default rule' for UK imports to the EU from 2021 is to treat them the same as imports from South Africa, and to use the same forms.

Michael Gove, the chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, who is responsible for readying the country for full Brexit at the end of the year, confirmed in parliament on Thursday afternoon that the RHA estimated 50,000 new recruits would be needed in the next six months.
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-staff-needed-for-post-brexit-trade-says-gove

That is one sixth of the entire Civil Service !
The UK is late to the party, as these people need to be trained up (6 months minimum) and in position before the end of the year

Every bit of freight going by road in or out of our ports will now be subject to two customs clearances.
Will their be stacking on the A20 in Kent by next summer. Even Mr Gove I think will be able to safely guarantee that.

Will that have a knock on effect to families in cars ?
It will but to what extent remains to be seen.
Will it effect motorhomers and tuggers, undoubtedly as we are 'freight' in size, if not freight in paperwork.

It must be kept in mind at the beginning, the difference between driving into the EU via the channel ferry and driving into the EU across the Turkish border will involve exactly the same paperwork. It's not a big job, but it involves 5 minutes of your time. add 5 minutes to every vehicle on your ship, you will queues.

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[busby]

in 2016 the Dutch, who have considerably less ports than the UK started to employ 1,000 extra customs officials, just to deal with UK imports from 2021.
The Belgians, with only 3 sea ports followed suit, with 95 extra officials for Zebrugge alone
The French have employed 'considerably more' but have not given numbers, but the figure has a comma in it.

The 'default rule' for UK imports to the EU from 2021 is to treat them the same as imports from South Africa, and to use the same forms.

Michael Gove, the chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, who is responsible for readying the country for full Brexit at the end of the year, confirmed in parliament on Thursday afternoon that the RHA estimated 50,000 new recruits would be needed in the next six months.
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-staff-needed-for-post-brexit-trade-says-gove

That is one sixth of the entire Civil Service !
The UK is late to the party, as these people need to be trained up (6 months minimum) and in position before the end of the year

Every bit of freight going by road in or out of our ports will now be subject to two customs clearances.
Will their be stacking on the A20 in Kent by next summer. Even Mr Gove I think will be able to safely guarantee that.

Will that have a knock on effect to families in cars ?
It will but to what extent remains to be seen.
Will it effect motorhomers and tuggers, undoubtedly as we are 'freight' in size, if not freight in paperwork.

It must be kept in mind at the beginning, the difference between driving into the EU via the channel ferry and driving into the EU across the Turkish border will involve exactly the same paperwork. It's not a big job, but it involves 5 minutes of your time. add 5 minutes to every vehicle on your ship, you will queues.

And there was me thinking you meant this year which is what we are talking about,,,Will be not much different to flying then ,,,Never mind as i am retired i have lots of time..BUSBY

 

[peterc10]

in 2016 the Dutch, who have considerably less ports than the UK started to employ 1,000 extra customs officials, just to deal with UK imports from 2021.
The Belgians, with only 3 sea ports followed suit, with 95 extra officials for Zebrugge alone
The French have employed 'considerably more' but have not given numbers, but the figure has a comma in it.

The 'default rule' for UK imports to the EU from 2021 is to treat them the same as imports from South Africa, and to use the same forms.

Michael Gove, the chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, who is responsible for readying the country for full Brexit at the end of the year, confirmed in parliament on Thursday afternoon that the RHA estimated 50,000 new recruits would be needed in the next six months.
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-staff-needed-for-post-brexit-trade-says-gove

That is one sixth of the entire Civil Service !
The UK is late to the party, as these people need to be trained up (6 months minimum) and in position before the end of the year

Every bit of freight going by road in or out of our ports will now be subject to two customs clearances.
Will their be stacking on the A20 in Kent by next summer. Even Mr Gove I think will be able to safely guarantee that.

Will that have a knock on effect to families in cars ?
It will but to what extent remains to be seen.
Will it effect motorhomers and tuggers, undoubtedly as we are 'freight' in size, if not freight in paperwork.

It must be kept in mind at the beginning, the difference between driving into the EU via the channel ferry and driving into the EU across the Turkish border will involve exactly the same paperwork. It's not a big job, but it involves 5 minutes of your time. add 5 minutes to every vehicle on your ship, you will queues.

And can you tell us who will win next year's Grand National as well please ...............................

 

[Lenny HB]

In the last week I have been several times on the M25.

Are you a masochist?