is my garage big enough

[toshy816]

I've been wondering about getting a small moped to carry in the garage of my motorhome. I have a Burstner Ixeo 680. Does anyone with this model carry a moped and if so which make/model

 

[iceclimber]

Ha, we just changed to a 2016 Burstner Nexo 690 (from a 2003 Burstner 660) and I am wondering exactly the same. Am hoping that a 125cc scooter may work out acceptable.

 

[Gazuk]

I went through this before I got my MH (Carthago). Will need to know the dimensions of your garage, then I may be able to help.

Also you'll probably need GVM of more than 3500kg. Mine is 4250kg.

I got a small BMW 310R bike, which is lower than alot of scooters, and I did find height was the main factor.

 

[TaylorSwift]

I went through this before I got my MH (Carthago). Will need to know the dimensions of your garage, then I may be able to help.

Also you'll probably need GVM of more than 3500kg. Mine is 4250kg.

I got a small BMW 310R bike, which is lower than alot of scooters, and I did find height was the main factor.

Out of interest what height is the 310? we have a scoot but I’m think of getting a smaller bike then my Super 10 that we could use in the C Tourer, possibly KTM 390 or a Husky 401

 

[Gazuk]

I have the C Tourer 150 (A class).

The garage on that that is 214cm in length, 110cm in width and 112cm in height. As I said earlier, the height is the limiting factor (apart from the weight). There is a bar that goes across the middle of the root that reduces the hight, so you have to measure to that bar.

From memory, the 310 is 110cm high with the mirrors removed, which looks about right as there looks like a couple of cm's spare.

THe KTM 390 would also fit (according to my research). This was my first choice, but the wife didn't like the pillion position as the pegs were quite high and she had dodgy hips. Good job we got a chance to sit on one first.

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[BouncyBoatFolk]

Unless you're loading from a level the same as the M/H garage floor you can get away with a bike height of slightly greater height dimensions than the door height.
It's because of the angle of loading, however, you'll still need some headroom once inside the door opening, if that all makes sense, oh and it'll probably have to come out the same way it went in though in the above case.
Regards.
Mike.

 

[Gazuk]

Actually, I think my height and width measurements were take at the door.

Will post a picture.

 

[Gazuk]

Here ya go

 

[BouncyBoatFolk]

Snug, well at least it shouldn't fall over.
Mike

 

[Greeners]

Hi All
I'm new around these parts.....joined today for my sins
I have a campervan conversion due to start at end Nov start of December.....Ducato XLWB
The van is due to have a full 4m tracking system for loading a motorcycle (not sure if I'm allowed to mention the product?)
If of interest willing to supply photos of the progress of the build as and when available?
Not sure if there are any other threads for garage systems on the forum....if there are please accept my apologies
Take Care all
Greeners

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[Vansflyer]

We have a C-Tourer 149 LE so twin beds at the back. Can confirm KTM 390 and 790 Duke fit in no problem with bar end mirrors on. Back axle weight was getting tight when fully loaded so upgraded to 4800kg max and 2700kg rear, we run just under 2500KG rear axle when fully loaded for a winter trip and full of water etc. Double bed bedroom reduces the height in the garage by a bit from memory. This pic shows the height and the crap we carry... including 2 x Bromptons.. chairs and ramp to go in on the right.

 

[TaylorSwift]

Nice work chaps

 

[BouncyBoatFolk]

Hi All
I'm new around these parts.....joined today for my sins
I have a campervan conversion due to start at end Nov start of December.....Ducato XLWB
The van is due to have a full 4m tracking system for loading a motorcycle (not sure if I'm allowed to mention the product?)
If of interest willing to supply photos of the progress of the build as and when available?
Not sure if there are any other threads for garage systems on the forum....if there are please accept my apologies
Take Care all
Greeners

Hi, and welcome. Actual user reviews of products, good and bad is always appreciated.

 

[Greeners]

Some idea what we are going to do....pictures of our Ducato.....the bike loader will give you some idea how it looks.....the bike will be loaded by electric winch on tracking to just behind the drivers seat.
A false floor will be fitted over the tracking with removable panels ....so no trip zone
Fitted with bed(s) of either 2 off 2.5ft by 6.0ft beds or 1 off 6.0ft x 6.2ft double (depending on the wife's mood )
Hope this helps

 

[Gazuk]

Greeners, interested in how you build turns out. I initially wanted a smaller van (assume yours is 636 long) and I was looking at the Adria Twin supremes as it looks like with the raising rear bed you might get a motorbike in(definately think this is the case with their newer Sport version).

The wife wanted a bigger MH, so we ended up wth the 7.5 metre Carthago. But in the future, I think I will go smaller.

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[ChrisL]

I haven't tried this myself but it occurred to me that if you can attach bobbins to the front forks of the kind used for paddock stands, you could use ratchet straps to pull the top yoke down a few inches, if your bike is a little too tall to go in the garage.

 

[Gazuk]

I've heard that suggested before, but the problem with that is as long as the bike is in the garage, the forks will be compressed, and some people say this may be an issue for fork seals.

I ratchet strap my bike down in the garage compressing the forks for travel, but as soon as I get to site I remove the front straps and let the forks uncompress. I then leave the bike in the garage till I need it.

 

[ChrisL]

I've heard that suggested before, but the problem with that is as long as the bike is in the garage, the forks will be compressed, and some people say this may be an issue for fork seals.

I ratchet strap my bike down in the garage compressing the forks for travel, but as soon as I get to site I remove the front straps and let the forks uncompress. I then leave the bike in the garage till I need it.

If i'm staying at a site for longer then a couple of days I usually take the bike out as soon as I get there and put it back in the day before I leave, so I can go and explore whenever the urge takes me.

 

[BeeHappy]

I've heard that suggested before, but the problem with that is as long as the bike is in the garage, the forks will be compressed, and some people say this may be an issue for fork seals.

I ratchet strap my bike down in the garage compressing the forks for travel, but as soon as I get to site I remove the front straps and let the forks uncompress. I then leave the bike in the garage till I need it.

It won’t damage the seals at all. I have had my track bike loaded onto a stillage to go out to Spain and it’ll be strapped down the the forks compressed for a week on the way out and the same on the way back and they are absolutely fine. It’s no different to the forks being compressed when you are braking and hit a bump, the dynamic loading on the forks is much greater when you’re braking from 70mph than when it’s just strapped down in the van.

The other option which admittedly is a bit more faff would be to slacken the yokes and slide the forks up through the yokes for transport. But if you don’t have a centre stand or headstock stand it’s not the simplest change.

 

[WESTY66]

We have a C-Tourer 149 LE so twin beds at the back. Can confirm KTM 390 and 790 Duke fit in no problem with bar end mirrors on. Back axle weight was getting tight when fully loaded so upgraded to 4800kg max and 2700kg rear, we run just under 2500KG rear axle when fully loaded for a winter trip and full of water etc. Double bed bedroom reduces the height in the garage by a bit from memory. This pic shows the height and the crap we carry... including 2 x Bromptons.. chairs and ramp to go in on the right.

Hmmm, I’ve only got my scooter (honda SH350) in and other crap and I’m at 2800kg on the back axle (100kg over) but that is with 170ltrs of water on board. We have 2300kg capacity on the front so have put some stuff up front, so we shouldn’t be so much over now
we have Carthago chic c line i49 le and we are at 5 ton gross.

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[Vansflyer]

Hmmm, I’ve only got my scooter (honda SH350) in and other crap and I’m at 2800kg on the back axle (100kg over) but that is with 170ltrs of water on board. We have 2300kg capacity on the front so have put some stuff up front, so we shouldn’t be so much over now
we have Carthago chic c line i49 le and we are at 5 ton gross.

Good luck getting the weight forward, we couldn't manage to get enough forward. At least you know you can reduce the water to 70L and keep the essentials (beer) in the garage and still be legal ;-)

 

[funflair]

Hmmm, I’ve only got my scooter (honda SH350) in and other crap and I’m at 2800kg on the back axle (100kg over) but that is with 170ltrs of water on board. We have 2300kg capacity on the front so have put some stuff up front, so we shouldn’t be so much over now
we have Carthago chic c line i49 le and we are at 5 ton gross.
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You have a washing machine in there that would be the first thing that I would get rid of and jen doesn't get a say what goes in MY garage

 

[WESTY66]

You have a washing machine in there that would be the first thing that I would get rid of and jen doesn't get a say what goes in MY garage

To be fair it was only in there for a test weigh, as well you know because I’m still contributing to everyone’s state pensions on here via paye, I can’t go away long enough to use it