Inverters

[Wildbill]

Ok I know about pure and modified so don’t want to go down that road.
I have avoided these things for years probably will try to get bye without one but
What will a 8000w one run
On 280 amp hrs battery bank
WB

 

[Tombola]

8000w is big un bill. Check your batteries can take the loads and cables are big enough. You are on lithium batteries i assume

Microwave, hob, charging bikes, and then all your normal average stuff.

 

[Wildbill]

8000w is big un bill. Check your batteries can take the loads and cables are big enough. You are on lithium batteries i assume

Microwave, hob, charging bikes, and then all your normal average stuff.

No lead acids wouldn’t have lithium rather pore petroleum over my shelf and burn to death of my own doing

 

[oldiesontour]

It'll draw near 700 ah IF you use 8000watt

 

[StillGoing]

Ok I know about pure and modified so don’t want to go down that road.
I have avoided these things for years probably will try to get bye without one but
What will a 8000w one run
On 280 amp hrs battery bank
WB

Are you sure you mean 8000W (8kW)?

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[oldiesontour]

With lead acids you may get 2500 to max 3000 watt out before voltage drop is so high inverter will probably shutdown even with lithium 700 amp would need more than one standard battery.You could fuse your inverter at say 200amp and be careful not to draw over say 2000watt

 

[Just smiffy]

A 2500w would be plenty for what you intend to use Bill, It’ll run an air fryer kettle etc… I know you have plenty of lead acid in the van or boat

 

[bigtwin]

What will a 8000w one run

At full chat that will be pulling close to 8 HUNDRED Amps (800A ) necessitating a LiFePO4 battery bank many times larger than your current setup.

Ian

 

[CustomBuild]

8000w is more than I have in my house. Sounds awesome to me.

In my TT I use two independent systems each with 3,500w inverters and 200Ah lithium at 24v. It allows me to run the AC, oven, kettle and other appliances all at the same time. The only downside is remembering to switch sockets for the kettle if the dishwasher and clothes dryer are on at the same time.

Independent systems provide peace of mind because if one component (solar panel, solar charger, mains charger, inverter, battery) fails in any way I remain a happy camper. Indeed, so far I have had one Victron charger fail and with the use of an extension cord between systems we kept going until I got the replacement installed.

 

[Wildbill]

At full chat that will be pulling close to 8 HUNDRED Amps (800A ) necessitating a LiFePO4 battery bank many times larger than your current setup.

Ian

I wasn’t thinking of using to full capacity I just seen one on Ali express
For a small pvc what would you recommend still not convinced it’s the way to go inverter that is but the wife is convinced after she seen a microwave being used in a pvc van had to drag her away kicking and screaming I want one
WB

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[Just smiffy]

A 2000w one would run a microwave and air fryer hairdryer and most other things, just not all at once..

 

[jezport]

I wasn’t thinking of using to full capacity I just seen one on Ali express
For a small pvc what would you recommend still not convinced it’s the way to go inverter that is but the wife is convinced after she seen a microwave being used in a pvc van had to drag her away kicking and screaming I want one
WB

I bet if you tested it it wouldn't even do half what it states. Stick to good branded ones.

 

[Wildbill]

I bet if you tested it it wouldn't even do half what it states. Stick to good branded ones.

As long as it works her microwave and at the moment I am trying to convince her there all crap no matter the brand
WB

 

[Wildbill]

A 2000w one would run a microwave and air fryer hairdryer and most other things, just not all at once..

So 5500 should be fine
WB

 

[Lenny HB]

Cheap inverters are a waste of money, if you are going to get one get a Victron it will cost a bit but will do what it says on the can.

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[Just smiffy]

So 5500 should be fine
WB

A bit overkill Bill…

 

[CustomBuild]

I wasn’t thinking of using to full capacity I just seen one on Ali express
For a small pvc what would you recommend still not convinced it’s the way to go inverter that is but the wife is convinced after she seen a microwave being used in a pvc van had to drag her away kicking and screaming I want one
WB

I’d recommend first looking at a small microwave oven, check the power and buy a small inverter between 50% and 100% more rating than the microwave.

Personally, I would go with any with a decent review on Amazon or your chosen vendor. My inverters have all been cheap and cheerful and none have failed.

 

[oldiesontour]

I wasn’t thinking of using to full capacity I just seen one on Ali express
For a small pvc what would you recommend still not convinced it’s the way to go inverter that is but the wife is convinced after she seen a microwave being used in a pvc van had to drag her away kicking and screaming I want one
WB

Ali tend to state peak power not continuous power so 8000w peak probably 4000 w continuous,also VERY prone to both overstating power and claiming pure sine wave when actually modified,I buy a fair bit from them but wouldn't touch their inverters,I did recently buy a 2000 w from eBay (type c pro) was listed £159 got it for £113 direct from edecoa ,works great doesn't get hot runs mwave,oven type air fryer hair dryer etc

 

[Wildbill]

I’d recommend first looking at a small microwave oven, check the power and buy a small inverter between 50% and 100% more rating than the microwave.

Personally, I would go with any with a decent review on Amazon or your chosen vendor. My inverters have all been cheap and cheerful and none have failed.

Cheep and cheerful dose for me so if I buy a 5500 it not likely to get over loaded.
I have payload capacity for extra batteries
270 amp hrs but could grow that agane
WB

 

[Wildbill]

Ali tend to state peak power not continuous power so 8000w peak probably 4000 w continuous,also VERY prone to both overstating power and claiming pure sine wave when actually modified,I buy a fair bit from them but wouldn't touch their inverters,I did recently buy a 2000 w from eBay (type c pro) was listed £159 got it for £113 direct from edecoa ,works great doesn't get hot runs mwave,oven type air fryer hair dryer etc

Thanks for the info that’s why I was going for 8000 expecting 4000 I I was lucky and would be looking at reviews and if it not right it goes back
But would be using anti surge extension leads to protect electronics ie computers phones stuff like that
WB

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[oldiesontour]

A middle of the road 200Thanks for the info that’s why I was going for 8000 expecting 4000 I I was lucky and would be looking at reviews and if it not right it goes back
But would be using anti surge extension leads to protect electronics ie computers phones stuff like that
WB

Just had a look 8000w from under £30 A middle of the road 2000w / 4000w peak should be around £100/£130 Inc vat on Ali 150 ISH here,

 

[scotzsue]

Bill we have had a microwave now for over 4 years, have used it about 4 times, and once was for someone else would happily dump it. Now the new, low wattage air fryer, that is a different story.

 

[oldiesontour]

Bill we have had a microwave now for over 4 years, have used it about 4 times, and once was for someone else would happily dump it. Now the new, low wattage air fryer, that is a different story.

Same here only use mwave for defrosting ,but oven style air fryer

 

[Orion]

The Renogy 3000w continuous, 6000w peak, pure sine wave inverter with wired remote control on eBay direct from the Renogy store is £224.99 with voucher at the moment. The 2000w & 1000w versions also available.

 

[headlight]

Ali tend to state peak power not continuous power so 8000w peak probably 4000 w continuous,also VERY prone to both overstating power and claiming pure sine wave when actually modified,I buy a fair bit from them but wouldn't touch their inverters,I did recently buy a 2000 w from eBay (type c pro) was listed £159 got it for £113 direct from edecoa ,works great doesn't get hot runs mwave,oven type air fryer hair dryer etc

I've been using an Edecoa 2000 watt pure sine wave inverter for about a year now, after recommendations on here.
£169 from Ebay at the time with remote display panel.
Works great, runs a 1435 watt air fryer, 1200 watt panini maker etc, obviously not at the same time.
I've never seen it get hot.

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[oldiesontour]

I've been using an Edecoa 2000 watt pure sine wave inverter for about a year now, after recommendations on here.
£169 from Ebay at the time with remote display panel.
Works great, runs a 1435 watt air fryer, 1200 watt panini maker etc, obviously not at the same time.
I've never seen it get hot.

Very happy with mine ,only downside I found a few days ago...having fitted a 240v fridge freezer to the van was going to run it from edecoa but found inverter drawing circa 1.7ah when nothing running ( x 24 hrs a day ... nearly the same as the fridge freezer uses) so tried another (Chinese no name )2000w inverter I had and it draws .27 ah a big difference ! . Doesn't matter as I now use the no name for the freezer and edecoa gets turned on only when needed for air fryer etc,( via a charging resistor)

 

[VXman]

Just get one that runs a bit more that the max power you are likley to use. That's if you buy a decent one. Cheap ones will not run what they say they will. Also be careful to read what they will deliver on start up. Mine is 2000w but will cope with 4000w initial draw. Some electrical items have a initial surge and need more power to start with and then settle down.

e.g. If your microwave is 1000 watt I'd suggest a 2000w one. Nothing more is needed. Of course - don't try to run a microwave and a hair dryer at the same time. remember from your 280ah of battery only 140ah is usable. when it gets to 50% it is effectively dead. 140ah is not a massive amount when running an inverter powering big wattage items like microwaves, air fryers, hair dryers etc.

 

[LithiumConvert]

Whatever power an inverter takes out of a battery needs to be put back in.

 

[Wildbill]

Whatever power an inverter takes out of a battery needs to be put back in.

Soler 420 w

 

[oldiesontour]

Soler 420 w

About the same as me and we can be off grid 90%of the time without starting the van and run a 240v fridge freezer,mwave and air fryer it is 15500watt bur only draws power about 50%of the time it's on ..say an average 30mins so about 65ah out of the batteries

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