Help! Engine light warning in Norway (1 Viewer)

[Joie de vivre]

Fiat Van been running fine. (2015 model but 2021 plated Comfortmatic) (Had all the gearbox trouble last year!) Now, suddenly this morning when we came to drive off the check engine warning light came on. We're 278km from a potential garage in Mo i Rana.
Any helpful advice or suggestions? Is it safe to drive that far? What could the issues or damage be? Driving fine atm. Just did 30k.
Thanks in advance.

 

[Lenny HB]

If its orange it's a warning if its red it shouldn't be driven.

 

[Just smiffy]

Turn off and wait 15mins and try again.

 

[David and Sally]

Which light is it exactly?

 

[Langtoftlad]

I have dead battery issues, can only start the van with a Jump Starter pack
Yesterday I was testing a new one and the amber engine management light was triggered.

Google suggests amber is a warning but flashing amber or red is stop now.

One of the suggestions which worked for me was ignition on off about three or four times 1-2 interval

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[Googlebot]

If it’s a minor fault it might extinguish on its own.

Can you get a cheap code reader delivered from Amazon?

 

[Brains]

FYI: If you can make it, Mo i Rana is a big (by Norwegian standards) industrial port, so you will find a garage there that can deal with Fiat commercials.
There is also a campsite inside the town.

 

[oldiesontour]

If it's not in limp mode probably just an emmisions fault nothing to worry about,may well self extinguish,I would get it scanned when convenient

 

[Bessy765]

If its orange and minor some fault lights will go off after 6 starts if the fault does not re occur

 

[Nirvanauk]

I've been driving around for 5 years with my amber warning light on. Fiat can't seem to fix it and everyone else says don't worry about it. This year I said to my local garage (good guys) keep it until fixed. Eventually they changed the EGR valve and seems to be ok.

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[Barti Ddu]

If it’s a minor fault it might extinguish on its own.

Can you get a cheap code reader delivered from Amazon?

Norway's hybrid version of Go Outdoors / Halfords / Wickes sell cheap OBD2 readers.

The stores are called Biltema.

The branch at Mo I Rana currently has 5+ in stock.

Plug it in (the port is under the fusebox next to your right knee on a RHD Ducato) and post the fault codes on here and you should get useful advice as to what the issue is, and whether it's something that you need to address or can leave until you get back home.

Feilkodeleser OBD-II / EOBD+CAN

Feilkodeleser OBD-II / EOBD+CAN

www.biltema.no

 

[Joie de vivre]

If its orange it's a warning if its red it shouldn't be

Norway's hybrid version of Go Outdoors / Halfords / Wickes sell cheap OBD2 readers.

The stores are called Biltema.

The branch at Mo I Rana currently has 5+ in stock.

Plug it in (the port is under the fusebox next to your right knee on a RHD Ducato) and post the fault codes on here and you should get useful advice as to what the issue is, and whether it's something that you need to address or can leave until you get back home.

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Feilkodeleser OBD-II / EOBD+CAN

Feilkodeleser OBD-II / EOBD+CAN

www.biltema.no

This is all very helpful. Will go and get one! In the interim the light has gone off itself so the other comments above seem to be also pertinent. I hope the light stays off. It doesn't half undermine your confidence though!

 

[Joie de vivre]

If it's not in limp mode probably just an emmisions fault nothing to worry about,may well self extinguish,I would get it scanned when convenient

You may be right as the light has now gone off. I hope it stays off until i can get hold of a code reader in Mo i Rana. Shatters your confidence a bit though when you're in such an isolated, far away place!

 

[Joie de vivre]

Norway's hybrid version of Go Outdoors / Halfords / Wickes sell cheap OBD2 readers.

The stores are called Biltema.

The branch at Mo I Rana currently has 5+ in stock.

Plug it in (the port is under the fusebox next to your right knee on a RHD Ducato) and post the fault codes on here and you should get useful advice as to what the issue is, and whether it's something that you need to address or can leave until you get back home.

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Feilkodeleser OBD-II / EOBD+CAN

Feilkodeleser OBD-II / EOBD+CAN

www.biltema.no

Will the code reader read the code even if the light has gone off? I believe the error codes are stored even after they self correct , until presumably there is a reset?

 

[oldiesontour]

Will the code reader read the code even if the light has gone off? I believe the error codes are stored even after they self correct , until presumably there is a reset?

Yes should be under stored codes.
This is fairly common and often caused by a freak set of conditions ..temp revs air flow gas flow turbo pressure etc combining

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[Joie de vivre]

Yes should be under stored codes.
This is fairly common and often caused by a freak set of conditions ..temp revs air flow gas flow turbo pressure etc combining

Thanks for your help!

 

[Googlebot]

Will the code reader read the code even if the light has gone off? I believe the error codes are stored even after they self correct , until presumably there is a reset?

I had a dodgy exhaust gas temperature sensor. Light went on and off for months. Run fine with no issues. I changed it as soon as I could.

If it’s gone off, it’s an intermittent, or resolved fault and should be fine.

 

[Bessy765]

There is a known fault with the wiring circuit for the second rad fan I have had it on a 2008 and a 2012, the circuit breaks and it can cause the EML to come on.

 

[dash300]

My Volvo XC90 now on 150k has had the orange engine light on for the past 5 years. No performance issues at all.
I simply switch it off with the OBD reader for the MOT and after a few miles it pops on again but we are ready to go for another year.

 

[Joie de vivre]

Will the code reader read the code even if the light has gone off? I believe the error codes are stored even after they self correct , until presumably there is a reset?

Hi again.
We got to Biltema and have managed to plug in the code reader! In stored codes it says 'PCV Heater control circuit high'

Are you able to tell me what this means please? Light came on again briefly yesterday but went off not long after.
It hasn't come on today.

Does this need to be attended to asap? We are due back in Uk on 8th September.

Many thanks.

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[DBK]

Hi again.
We got to Biltema and have managed to plug in the code reader! In stored codes it says 'PCV Heater control circuit high'

Are you able to tell me what this means please? Light came on again briefly yesterday but went off not long after.
It hasn't come on today.

Does this need to be attended to asap? We are due back in Uk on 8th September.

Many thanks.

The Positive Crankcase Ventilation (PCV) heater is designed to prevent freezing of the PCV valve which recirculates gases from the crankcase back into the air inlet.

If that's the cause of the warning light you can probably ignore it until you get home.

 

[Rapides]

Hi again.
We got to Biltema and have managed to plug in the code reader! In stored codes it says 'PCV Heater control circuit high'

Are you able to tell me what this means please? Light came on again briefly yesterday but went off not long after.
It hasn't come on today.

Does this need to be attended to asap? We are due back in Uk on 8th September.

Many thanks.

Got exactly the same symptoms on Ile de Ré in July this year. Drove 500 miles with the light on with no performance issues whatsoever. Check engine message at startup eventually disappeared and the warning light didn’t come back on.

Bought an OBD reader on return home and the code was same as yours (P053C?). Deleted it and all been ok for the 500+ miles since.

I found the valve on top of the engine. If it wasn’t for all the other stuff in the way I suspect that removal and replacement would be a reasonably easy DIY job.

 

[Joie de vivre]

Hi again.
We got to Biltema and have managed to plug in the code reader! In stored codes it says 'PCV Heater control circuit high'

Are you able to tell me what this means please? Light came on again briefly yesterday but went off not long after.
It hasn't come on today.

Does this need to be attended to asap? We are due back in Uk on 8th September.

Many thanks.

Got exactly the same symptoms on Ile de Ré in July this year. Drove 500 miles with the light on with no performance issues whatsoever. Check engine message at startup eventually disappeared and the warning light didn’t come back on.

Bought an OBD reader on return home and the code was same as yours (P053C?). Deleted it and all been ok for the 500+ miles since.

I found the valve on top of the engine. If it wasn’t for all the other stuff in the way I suspect that removal and replacement would be a reasonably easy DIY job.

Ah, interesting. Yes, same code! What is it exactly that's apparently gone wrong?

 

[Joie de vivre]

Got exactly the same symptoms on Ile de Ré in July this year. Drove 500 miles with the light on with no performance issues whatsoever. Check engine message at startup eventually disappeared and the warning light didn’t come back on.

Bought an OBD reader on return home and the code was same as yours (P053C?). Deleted it and all been ok for the 500+ miles since.

I found the valve on top of the engine. If it wasn’t for all the other stuff in the way I suspect that removal and replacement would be a reasonably easy DIY job.

We'll have quite a lot more than 500miles to do to get home though as we're half way up Norway!. Will it cause further damage to leave it?

 

[DBK]

Will it cause further damage to leave it?

No one can know without knowing exactly what the fault is.

You can either trust the system to let you drive until a warning comes up saying STOP or find somewhere which can tell you what the problem is.

If it is just an amber warning "check engine" light I would keep going but I'm not in your shoes in the wilds of Norway.

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[Joie de vivre]

The Positive Crankcase Ventilation (PCV) heater is designed to prevent freezing of the PCV valve which recirculates gases from the crankcase back into the air inlet.

If that's the cause of the warning light you can probably ignore it until you get home.

Thanks very much for your advice.

 

[gus-lopez]

Will it cause further damage to leave it?

Doubtful as it is just the valve that dumps dirty rocker cover fumes in to the main air intake as part of "lowering emissions"

 

[zedman]

disconnect the battery for a few minuets ........works wonders, it lets the ecu reset its self.......like turning your computer off and on again.

 

[the1andonly]

A couple of FF threads on the subject

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