Hazard perception?

[chenderson1965]

Hi all.

My wife needs to get a C1 license to drive our new bus. We signed up with some of the training websites for the theory and hazard perception tests but the hazard perception seems to be really difficult. I’ve had a go too and you seem to need to both see only tiny hints of things - and then also have incredible reaction times to get the high scores needed to pass.

Has anyone else on here done this test and found it equally difficult? Apart from just endless practice questions/videos what else can we do to help her get to scoring levels that will pass her the test?

Thanks a lot.

Chris

 

[David and Sally]

I have not done that test but when I was m'cycle instructing many candidates failed because they were too quick off the mark and the system thought they were cheating by clicking everywhere. It was because thyey were experienced motorists rather than novices and were way ahead of the computer.

 

[chenderson1965]

I have not done that test but when I was m'cycle instructing many candidates failed because they were too quick off the mark and the system thought they were cheating by clicking everywhere. It was because thyey were experienced motorists rather than novices and were way ahead of the computer.

Thanks, but it’s definitely not that. With the practice sites they show you a replay of what you should click for, when - and even the timing for maximum points.

 

[Nanniemate]

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I have not done that test but when I was m'cycle instructing many candidates failed because they were too quick off the mark and the system thought they were cheating by clicking everywhere. It was because thyey were experienced motorists rather than novices and were way ahead of the computer.

We advice experienced drivers to count to 3 before clicking and this seems to work especially with LGV/PCV drivers who are taking a additional vehicle . I have tried this method and failed without the count, But it may be that I'm a rubbish driver …...

 

[Alex and Lesley]

You need to click as your instinct tells you to do then count to 2 and click again, you will be ahead of the scoring window due to your experience level as this test was designed for novice not experienced drivers. I run a Heavy Goods Driving School and this advice seems to work for anyone who is failing the test.

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[Johnen]

The hazard perception test wants you to identify developing hazards. This according to the dvsa is defined as a hazard which requires you to take some action. The majority of people click on a potential hazard, before it has developed. My advice is when spotting a hazard is to click twice, then if your first click is before the scoring range the second click will get some points.

 

[whiskyman]

I wouldn't mind a go at this test, anyone got a link to a free practice site I could have a go on

 

[JockandRita]

I wouldn't mind a go at this test, anyone got a link to a free practice site I could have a go on

Any good to you?

Take a practice theory test

Take free official practice theory tests from the Driver and Vehicle Standards Agency (DVSA) for cars, motorcycles, lorries and buses

www.gov.uk

Cheers,

Jock.

 

[The Wino]

I wouldn't mind a go at this test, anyone got a link to a free practice site I could have a go on

Me too!. Strange in most cases us oldies think exams are getting easier for youngsters obviously not in this case.

 

[EX51SSS]

Me too!. Strange in most cases us oldies think exams are getting easier for youngsters obviously not in this case.

I think most oldies don't actually think the exams are getting easier but the quality of driving after passing whatever exams is deteriorating

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[whiskyman]

Thank-you Jock, good link will have a go later and let you all know how I get on

 

[JockandRita]

Well, using the link I posted above, and having never done the test before, I got a respectable 11 out of 15.

I was clicking on what I as an experienced HGV/PSV and former Blues & Twos driver, perceived as potential hazards..........................which is where I was getting it wrong, especially when the 3 x clips played back, showing the required hazards to pick up on. I was too far ahead of myself.

Cheers,

Jock.

 

[The Wino]

I think most oldies don't actually think the exams are getting easier but the quality of driving after passing whatever exams is deteriorating

I meant academic exams but in driving given the amount of traffic there is now I'm not sure we would have been any better or more sensible. I think we don't have the feeling of invincibility that we had as youngsters!

 

[JockandRita]

I think most oldies don't actually think the exams are getting easier but the quality of driving after passing whatever exams is deteriorating

I'll certainly go along with that one. Fewer and fewer seem to treat driving as an extremely responsible thing to be doing.

Cheers,

Jock.

 

[Simon Select]

The Hazard Perception is the easy part!
I did it as part of my big boys licence last year!
The theory is harder!

Simon

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[Camdoon]

Well, using the link I posted above, and having never done the test before, I got a respectable 11 out of 15.

I was clicking on what I as an experienced HGV/PSV and former Blues & Twos driver, perceived as potential hazards..........................which is where I was getting it wrong, especially when the 3 x clips played back, showing the required hazards to pick up on. I was too far ahead of myself.

Cheers,

Jock.

I also do some professional driving.
My youngest did his theory driving test last week and I found myself doing the test and clicking too early as well.
In one way it is recognising a risk - so someone is moving or attracting your eye which in older/more experienced drivers alerts you to slow down or be aware that they may do something idiotic; and when you need to click which is when the risk turns into a threat - so they move into/towards your space. I certainly told my son to click twice because of this "risk" to passing the test.
The worrying thing about the whole theory test was that he was able to practise the whole exam without looking at the Highway Code. He got through with 43 through practising the questions (also slow down and keep away from things, was the mantra I gave him).

 

[Shrimp]

Interesting!
I have just done the three free tests online and got a Pass.
I was a motorcyclist so that may have made the difference as I saw mud on the road in several places and a deep looking puddle amongst other things that a car driver possibly would bother with nor even see as a motorbike reacts differently to a car in certain circumstance!
Try doing the test, in your head, as if you were cycling!

 

[TheAleMan]

I have done the hazard perception test for my light motorcycle license (don't know if same for car). Plenty of info online, and I would suggest practice practice practice. That's what I did and nailed it first time. Don't go clicking willy nilly though at anything and everything, that will go against you.

 

[Matt Alber]

Took the test and spotted more potential hazards than the 3 the DVLA indicated.

Motorcyclist riding too close to the van, person strolling across the road, junctions, blind sharp bend, narrowing road to a hump backed bridge and water on the road.

DVLA only seem to see vehicles approaching junctions at speed and/or not stopping as hazards. When I took my tests you were taught to read the road and adjust speed and react accordingly to changing conditions. No wonder standard of driving seems to be deteriorating.

 

[JockandRita]

Motorcyclist riding too close to the van, person strolling across the road, junctions, blind sharp bend, narrowing road to a hump backed bridge and water on the road.

Yep, I got all those too, but no points for them. What happened to the "forward planning" aspect of learning to drive? ?

Cheers,

Jock. ?

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[mpdcymru]

Several of the above reeplies are suggesting clicking twice (with a slight pauase in between) when you see a hazard and I think this is a very good idea. Do not take this too far though as the system can identify wheree a candidate is almost constantly clicking and will issue a fail.

I still do a bit of training on this (and other transport related items) and always recommend that candidates study thereview afterr they take the test - just click on the "review" button and the whole sequence re-plays itself with a time line underneath the video clip where you can see where you pressed the button and where the system actually records the hazard.

Also, do not worry about collecting regular "5" scores as this really is quite difficult - so long as you regularly get 3s and 4s you will be OK

 

[Odd-no-more]

Took the test and spotted more potential hazards than the 3 the DVLA indicated.

Motorcyclist riding too close to the van, person strolling across the road, junctions, blind sharp bend, narrowing road to a hump backed bridge and water on the road.

DVLA only seem to see vehicles approaching junctions at speed and/or not stopping as hazards. When I took my tests you were taught to read the road and adjust speed and react accordingly to changing conditions. No wonder standard of driving seems to be deteriorating.

People are not taught to drive these days, people are taught how to pass the test. Driving lessons are now so expensive the training is all about the test to keep the cost down.

I took the mock hazard test for a motorbike and failed, I also did the highway code one and passed that with no problems, in spite of not picking up a copy since my daughter did her test 26 years ago.

 

[Wiener-dogs201]

Any good to you?

Take a practice theory test

Take free official practice theory tests from the Driver and Vehicle Standards Agency (DVSA) for cars, motorcycles, lorries and buses

www.gov.uk

Cheers,

Jock.

Thanks for the link, I was shocked at how their hazard perception works. Clicking once on what will be a hazard creates a big fail. Instead you have to do the panic approach and it's a potential hazard, it's still a potential hazard, still a hazard, still a hazard, OMG it's a hazard!!! Arrgh time for new underwear. As a motorcyclist I saw the hazard then proceeded to look for any others, my brain already alerted to the hazard. But the clips shown do not work that way, perhaps they are designed for people with memory troubles who take less than a second to forget hazards?

 

[Lenny HB]

Well, using the link I posted above, and having never done the test before, I got a respectable 11 out of 15.

I was clicking on what I as an experienced HGV/PSV and former Blues & Twos driver, perceived as potential hazards..........................which is where I was getting it wrong, especially when the 3 x clips played back, showing the required hazards to pick up on. I was too far ahead of myself.

Cheers,

Jock.

Same here I only got 7 but mostly they were right I just spotted them too soon.
Not a very good test if you fail for being too aware.

 

[Googlebot]

I only scraped a pass on the hazard perception.

Taught to drive Ambulances on blue lights aged 18 and took the hazard perception for C1 10 years later after years of advanced driving.

I clicked way too early most of the time. One I remember was I could see blue lights faintly flashing in a shop front so clicked. About 5 seconds later a Fire Engine emerged. I failed that one for clicking too early.

It’s a useless real life test IMHO.

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[Odd-no-more]

It is more like a computer game, most of the learning to drive process does not teach people to drive, only how to pass the test. I think it was always like that but when I took my tests there was a lot less traffic around so we could learn to drive by doing it. That is not so easy now.

 

[Gooney]

Any good to you?

Take a practice theory test

Take free official practice theory tests from the Driver and Vehicle Standards Agency (DVSA) for cars, motorcycles, lorries and buses

www.gov.uk

Cheers,

Jock.

unfortunately the site is down for maintenance until Sunday 22:00

 

[Odd-no-more]

I did the practice theory test not having picked up a copy of the highway code since my daughter learned to drive 25 years ago, and passing with no problem