Have I finally understood how the leisure batteries charge?

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After our AH reading on our Autotrail scout kept decreasing I think I am finally understanding the leisure batteries! I read that the AH display is not taking a reading from the battery as I thought but just doing a calculation based on what info it has. We thought we were running out of power.
I've Reprogrammed the AH display to show we have 220 AH instead of the 110 it thought we had. Set the start point at 100% because I think we are in fully charged state. It will now calculate based on what goes out and what the original solar puts in and give us a percentage. It doesn't know about the other fixed and portable solar which have their own controllers that don't go through the sargent unit.
We'll make sure the V reading when not being charged doesn't go below 12.2 which would be around 50% discharged.
Finally got to grips with the smart charge system. Starts with a slow increase then does the bulk charge at around 14.2/14.4 (This is when the portable comes into its own to get the V high enough). Then when fully charged it maintains a float charge at around 13.6 to keep them in fully charged state. If you put some load on them during this phase they will again enter bulk charge phase of around 14.4 if the power is available to top them up before going back to float. If during this process the vehicle battery drops to 12.4 the charge will automatically swap to it for 4 hours though you can override this.
Then overnight we use some of the stored energy. Last night at 1.30am we were at 12.5.
Starting off tonight with 12.9v vehicle and 13v leisure. Get the telly on!!
We've been off grid for 21 days in Andalusia now and hopefully can continue to manage the batteries.

We've had the van since 2016 so it's about time I understood. I'd appreciate it if anyone sees any errors in my understanding you let me know.





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If you fit a battery master then the power in the two batteries is balanced
No it doesn't it just charges the starter battery from the leisure battery.

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Our ambulance has all the charging stuff it came with plus an 100 w solar panel on the roof, it just charges , no dials apart from a simple volt meter out of the old caravan we got the bits out of, but it's never run out of electric so just leave it to get on with whatever it does, and otherwise ignore it.
 
Our ambulance has all the charging stuff it came with plus an 100 w solar panel on the roof, it just charges , no dials apart from a simple volt meter out of the old caravan we got the bits out of, but it's never run out of electric so just leave it to get on with whatever it does, and otherwise ignore it.
Do you know I think that is the way to go. The amp hour percentage had us thinking that we were running out because it kept falling when really it wasn't even a true reading of the battery state.
 
Finally got to grips with the smart charge system. Starts with a slow increase then does the bulk charge at around 14.2/14.4 (This is when the portable comes into its own to get the V high enough). Then when fully charged it maintains a float charge at around 13.6 to keep them in fully charged state.
Yes that's what it does, but the first stage is called the bulk charging. It's a constant high current, and the voltage gradually increases until it reaches the absorption voltage (about 14.4V). At that point it's about 80% charged.

When it reaches the absorption voltage it stays at constant voltage as the current gradually reduces, that's called the absorption charging. When the current drops to a predefined limit, it decides the battery is fully charged so it switches to float charging.
 
No it doesn't it just charges the starter battery from the leisure battery.
Actually Lenny i think you may be mistaken, my understanding is that once the engine battery drops .5 volt below the leisure battery, the battery master will draw current from the leisure battery and trickle charge the engine battery until they are at the same voltage, in effect balancing them. Some other engine battery maintaining devices only charge the engine battery if the leisure battery is over 13 volts so will only charge the engine battery if the leisure batteries are also being charged, either by solar or hook up. I have the later type on my van.
 
Yes that's what it does, but the first stage is called the bulk charging. It's a constant high current, and the voltage gradually increases until it reaches the absorption voltage (about 14.4V). At that point it's about 80% charged.

When it reaches the absorption voltage it stays at constant voltage as the current gradually reduces, that's called the absorption charging. When the current drops to a predefined limit, it decides the battery is fully charged so it switches to float charging.
Thanks for the explanation autorouter

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