Gaslow reserve filler connection hose.

[SteveJulesMontycame2]

There is no need to turn the external bottle upside down, the hose allows the gas vapour to transfer through the gas low system to your van. Just leave connected until the spanish bottle runs out and change the bottle. Turning it upside down will just dump any oils or other debris into your system and probably ruin your regulator.
I don't think gaslow would recommend what you have advised anyway.

Just some of the sh1t oil I cleaned out after just 12 months of LPG filling, seen in the bottom of the filter cups when I emptied them out a month ago.
Just imagine what cr8p is in the bottom of a cylinder that’s been in use for a few years; and you want to put it into your bottles? Surely it’s safer (less contamination risk) to just connect up when one of your bottles is empty and use the vapourised gas as it was meant to be...?

 

[SteveJulesMontycame2]

It's only as dangerous as filling at a pump, it's the same action really. The external bottle hasn't got the capacity to over fill the vans bottles. And the hose is a proper Gaslow hose. What are you thinking could happen?

Your post overlapped mine - see the photos above. I’m thinking you’ll fill up your system with rubbish from the Spanish bottle

 

[Richard n Ann]

Just some of the sh1t oil I cleaned out after just 12 months of LPG filling, seen in the bottom of the filter cups when I emptied them out a month ago.
Just imagine what cr8p is in the bottom of a cylinder that’s been in use for a few years; and you want to put it into your bottles? Surely it’s safer (less contamination risk) to just connect up when one of your bottles is empty and use the vapourised gas as it was meant to be...?

Now that is a valid point I will consider transferring it as a vapour.

One more time then ?, I cant simply use the vapour because the bottle belongs to the site reception and they want it back before we leave site.

 

[Richard n Ann]

This is going to be a 100 page thread ??

 

[SteveJulesMontycame2]

Now that is a valid point I will consider transferring it as a vapour.

One more time then ?, I cant simply use the vapour because the bottle belongs to the site reception and they want it back before we leave site.

If you must, maybe lie it on an angle? So the lowest point isn’t the tap - like a diesel tank. But is it really worth it?
Picture of our reserve hook up here in Austria with the Gasit equivalent - but we’re using a 11kg bottle every 5 days in the snow. The nearest garage is 50km away. Went for a drive and filled up the 2 x 11kg refillables today. It worked fine, (vapour) with the full tank turned off and the empty one on.

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[Theonlysue]

If you fxxk upyour

Yes it's a sh1t idea and trust you don't do too much damage to yourself or MH gas regulator when you try it in June.

Or you neighbours either ??

 

[Richard n Ann]

If you must, maybe lie it on an angle? So the lowest point isn’t the tap - like a diesel tank. But is it really worth it?
Picture of our reserve hook up here in Austria with the Gasit equivalent - but we’re using a 11kg bottle every 5 days in the snow. The nearest garage is 50km away. Went for a drive and filled up the 2 x 11kg refillables today. It worked fine, (vapour) with the full tank turned off and the empty one on.

Yes that's exactly what I thought about laying the bottle on it's side, then to get the last bit out stand it up, the sun will warm it up, the liquid will start evaporating and condensing inside the van's cooler bottles ??

 

[pappajohn]

I know it will work because I've been doing very similar at work for the last 25 years.

Now that is a valid point I will consider transferring it as a vapour.

So in 25 years you've never considered you could be transferring oil and sediment.

 

[Richard n Ann]

So in 25 years you've never considered you could be transferring oil and sediment.

I carefully worded it "doing very similar" because I actually used to transfer refrigerant at work, it is a very similar hydrocarbon but there is no sediment, refrigerant has to be very pure ?

 

[pappajohn]

the liquid will start evaporating and condensing inside the van's cooler bottles ??

And how is it going to do that.
The liquid in the doner bottle is covering the gas outlet so the internal gas pressure of the bottle laid on its side will force liquid out the outlet, not vapour..
I think you just thought this up and never actually thought it through.

I'm out, it's just winding me up.

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[Richard n Ann]

And how is it going to do that.
The liquid in the doner bottle is covering the gas outlet so the internal gas pressure of the bottle laid on its side will force liquid out the outlet, not vapour..
I think you just thought this up and never actually thought it through.

I'm out, it's just winding me up.

You might fair better if you actually read my posts. The bottle would be stood up for the vapour transfer part (or course ?) see above ?

Edit: and now below

 

[Richard n Ann]

thought about laying the bottle on it's side, then to get the last bit out stand it up

Next question please ?

 

[pappajohn]

From the outset you've been saying the bottle will be inverted.
After the post regarding finings and oil you decided it would be upright for vapour.
Read your own posts first.

 

[Richard n Ann]

From the outset you've been saying the bottle will be inverted.
After the post regarding finings and oil you decided it would be upright for vapour.
Read your own posts first.

That's right, early on I did consider just leaving it upright in the sun, it would take longer for it to transfer that way (as a vapour). But later on and as Steve mentioned I though if I tip it on it's side I'd get half the liquid out quickly without any of the sediment and just doing the last bit as vapour.

 

[Richard n Ann]

Sorry yes the first thought was inverted until the 'heavy ends' were thought of... It's that long ago ?

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[Richard n Ann]

If you see a mushroom cloud going up over Benidorm in June it'll just be me and Ann ???

 

[SteveJulesMontycame2]

How long are you there for, (or when do you have to give the cylinder back)? ‘Till June?
If the fridge uses about a pound of gas a day, then you’ll have over a months worth in the 11kg Spanish bottle, so is there any need to do a transfer of liquid gas? (Plus you’ll use some cooking, heating and a bit of hot water too).
You have to leave one of your refillables on to allow gas into the regulator to use in your van, so one will empty while you use the vapor from the reserve cylinder anyway. Even if you top it up to start with.
And as someone said earlier, the value of any left gas left behind when you hand it back won’t be high. Surely you’ll have used a bottle up by June?
But then maybe you like to get value for money! ?

 

[tonyidle]

My god this is hard work ? it really is very simple... Perhaps I'm not good at explaining ?

I understand perfectly. It will work exactly as you suggest, it isn't dangerous, and the only minor disadvantage is the transfer of the low ends. Which will stay in the receiving bottle anyway. I can't understand why others are having difficulty with the idea either.

 

[tonyidle]

To clean a refillable bottle of low ends simply invert it for a short while (off the van of course) then open the outlet cock briefly. Assuming of course that you are in a safe position to do so.

 

[Richard n Ann]

How long are you there for, (or when do you have to give the cylinder back)? ‘Till June?
If the fridge uses about a pound of gas a day, then you’ll have over a months worth in the 11kg Spanish bottle, so is there any need to do a transfer of liquid gas? (Plus you’ll use some cooking, heating and a bit of hot water too).
You have to leave one of your refillables on to allow gas into the regulator to use in your van, so one will empty while you use the vapor from the reserve cylinder anyway. Even if you top it up to start with.
And as someone said earlier, the value of any left gas left behind when you hand it back won’t be high. Surely you’ll have used a bottle up by June?
But then maybe you like to get value for money! ?

There for 6 weeks the van gas lasts 4 weeks so I'd have 2 weeks to use 11kg. And there would be 5kg taken back ?? I'll get it in the van somehow even if I have to fetch hot water (to put on the external bottle to make it evaporate and condense in the cooler van bottles)

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[pappajohn]

Why don't you simply use the Spanish bottle first via the link hose as its designed to be used.
Then switch to your own bottles. Any gas left after 6 weeks is already in your bottle.
No faffing except to switch to your own when the Spanish runs out.

 

[Richard n Ann]

Why don't you simply use the Spanish bottle first via the link hose as its designed to be used.
Then switch to your own bottles. Any gas left after 6 weeks is already in your bottle.
No faffing except to switch to your own when the Spanish runs out.

Because the link hose goes to the filler point which is directly connected to both bottles. And they will be already full, I wouldn't do it this way as there is a risk of over filling the vans bottles, best to wait until there is plenty room in there ?

 

[pappajohn]

OK, fair enough.
Well turn off one of your bottles to prevent auto switchover and use ONE. then you have one empty bottle to connect the site bottle the correct way. When that's empty open the full bottle
You still end up with the 5kg in your own bottle.