Ford wet belt issues (1 Viewer)

[Hayleylw87]

Hi Ladies ans Gwnts, im new to the forum, I am looking for aome guidance. Last week my transit came to difficulty and garage saod it is the timing belt has slipped. Its a 2018 custom with 77200 on the clock, has anyone had any issues sinilar or csn guide me through if this is covered under warranty?

 

[chesterfield hooligan]

I would check with Ford as I've heard they are replacing engine's with less than 125,000 miles.

 

[Hayleylw87]

Hi thanks for the reply, I rang them the other night and they have raised an issue for me, they said my particular model isn't under the recall situation but I have asked them to check what year the van was made rather then when it was registered? Just to be sure, I will be ringing them tonight when I am home to push a little harder as I need to get back to work.

 

[Guigsy]

Timing belt slipping and losing time is a serious issue. It normally means valves have been mashed by the pistons. Frequently, the whole engine is replaced because of the knock-on effects.

You've spotted that there was a recall on that engine for timing belt failure. I'm not sure if Ford have a web site where you feed in the VIN to find out if yours was affected?

 

[Hayleylw87]

Hi, I caed ford the other night and they said there is not a recall on my specific van ao I asked them to check what year it was made rather than what year it was registered but looks like a big out lay which is a utter heart break given how old the vehcile is

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[ivorantony]

Not your engine but Fiesta mk7 with the eco boost engine are referred to as Eco boom in the motor trade because
there wet belt system is so unreliable, and in the Eco Boost engine it drives the oil pump so when it slips you have a blown engine, totally stupid design IMO

 

[PP Bear]

I’ve had a belt go on me, were is stripped the teeth at the crankshaft, but never snapped. I was lucky that there was no damage done, as has already been mentioned, they can usually wright off an engine and be £1000’s to repaired or replace.

I don’t know about the warranty, but keep pushing ford over it.

Did you have the vehicle from new, if so has it been ford dealer serviced (not strictly a requirement, but strengthens the case) and at what mileage or age does the belt need replacement, as these can details can be used to strengthen your case.

Good luck.

 

[Hayleylw87]

I have only had it since January 2021, i believe they say to play safe every 120.van is sat on 77200

 

[PP Bear]

Having a read up on the system, it seems that while it’s quoted as 100,000 miles plus, or 10 years, it’s recommended to have them changed around 60,000 miles.

I do hope that ford come through for you, or you may end up forking out over this.

Some info here…

Ford Transit 2.0 EcoBlue TDCI Wet Belt Problems! – Aarons Autos

What we are seeing in the trade though is timing belt failures well before either the 150,000 mile interval or the ten year time frame.

www.aaronsautos.co.uk

 

[Reallyretired]

Strange backward step. My Transit (built 2007, first reg 2009) has a chain.

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[Guigsy]

Strange backward step. My Transit (built 2007, first reg 2009) has a chain.

Belts are cheaper and mechanically more efficient.

 

[ivorantony]

Belts are cheaper and mechanically more efficient.

Cheap is the word, give me a chain or gears any day,

 

[PP Bear]

Hover board, its the only way to be sure….

 

[Guigsy]

Cheap is the word, give me a chain or gears any day,

Gears last a long time, but are really inefficient and have lots of geometry constraints, so are rarely used.

Chains last about twice as long as belts. But it tends to be a more expensive job to replace them when they do need replacing. Especially when they get floppy and start chewing up the guides and casings and cause engine failure because there's shavings in the oil.

Overall, belts are generally pretty hardy and reliable and relatively easy to replace.

 

[Reallyretired]

Belts are cheaper and mechanically more efficient.

Cheaper for the manufacturer, not for the user who has to pay out to periodically replace it (or the engine if it breaks)

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[Reallyretired]

From a search on google, if engine is properly maintained a timing chain should last 80,000 to 300,000 miles. Most will last the life of the engine.
Also they dont usually break suddenly, just become noisy and rattle.

 

[Guigsy]

From a search on google, if engine is properly maintained a timing chain should last 80,000 to 300,000 miles. Most will last the life of the engine.
Also they dont usually break suddenly, just become noisy and rattle.

I suspect most vans only ever have their belts changed once before they are scrapped. And they rarely break if changed when recommended.

 

[jockaneezer]

I wonder what the belts are actually made of and who thought it was a good idea to run a laggy band through an oil bath ?

 

[Guigsy]

I wonder what the belts are actually made of and who thought it was a good idea to run a laggy band through an oil bath ?

I guess it means less seals and gaskets that might leak... but yeah, most rubber type materials tend to swell and weaken when exposed to oil. Hopefully they thought of that and spec'd something that would cope.

 

[ivorantony]

Gears last a long time, but are really inefficient and have lots of geometry constraints, so are rarely used.

Chains last about twice as long as belts. But it tends to be a more expensive job to replace them when they do need replacing. Especially when they get floppy and start chewing up the guides and casings and cause engine failure because there's shavings in the oil.

Overall, belts are generally pretty hardy and reliable and relatively easy to replace.

Totally understand the differences, but to replace a chain to a belt submerged in oil for cheapness and a very slight improvement in efficiency is a backwards step in so many ways,
a quality dry belt properly designed could comfortably pass 150,000 mile between replacement, but the bean counters shaving a few penny’s off each installation will get there way leaving the current owner a whopping bill at the end of it,
we should have a Lemon law similar to the US where many customers with the same problem can instigate a class
action against the manufacturer,

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[EuroTrotters]

FORD Come Good with Wet Cam Belt Engine Fixed Under Warranty at 125,000 Miles

So I have just found out, my Brother has gone back to Ford with a Second hand Ford Transit where the Cambelt Failed at 125,000 miles. 66 Plate Ford Transit Custom, 125,000 miles Under Re-call I am told too.

www.motorhomefun.co.uk

 

[Jamesh]

More info here....

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