Food to France

Southdowners said:
I you are carrying illegal guns and class A drugs in whatever country you reside you are doing something seriously illegal.

Drugs and guns kill. Dairy products and dog food don't

I honestly can't believe I'm reading a post where guns, drugs and dairy products are mentioned in the same sentence!! :rolleyes:
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I did qualify my comment to include the severity of the penalty, but the fact remains that all of the cited activities are illegal, because they break the applicable legislation. So my point stands.

Steve
 
matamoros said:
You actually comparing smuggling £160 million with of cocaine to taking a few tins of dog food, bacon etc that would have been perfectly legal 12 months ago. I understand the need for these restrictions when and if the UK's food standards diverge from the EU but at the moment they have not.
Wonder what the penalty would have been for smuggling the half dozen tins of spam that I brought to France a month ago?
Spam is produced in Denmark!!!
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oh sorry, I misread your post. I read it as you committing and condoning smuggling. Apparently not.
 
It appears to me recently that there are a small percentage of folk on this lovely friendly club forum who sit waiting to judge and vent their spleens on other folk asking innocent questions, this often results in semantic sparring.
I find it rather unsavoury, whilst understanding completely freedom of speech, there are ways and there are nicer ways..
I used to be on the Motorhome facts site about 7 years ago !! and left it to join a “FRIENDLY” club.
Mitch.
 
matamoros said:
No you didn't misread it!
I find your holier than thou, the law is the law attitude quite pathetic.
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matamoros said:
No you didn't misread it!
I find your holier than thou, the law is the law attitude quite pathetic.
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Two points. I meant to respond to stealaway.
and I'm really really bothered if you find my attitude quite pathetic. Somehow i will manage to overcome and survive.
have fun

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Use of the word 'smuggling' is emotive and ridiculous. The EU rules are here, and are not linked to smuggling, but the need for all such products to be certified by a vet.

Comparisons between having a pack of sausages in your fridge and carrying 30 kilos of crack is just silly.

However, this is more about EU dogmatism than common sense. Much of the food we eat is processed and packed in the EU. If it is then brought back in the same sealed packaging, why not give it an exemption? UK food welfare and hygiene standards are higher then the EU anyway. Can't help feeling that this is more about the EU still being cross that we two-fingered them.

What would be helpful is a list of the shops and supermarkets in Northern France that sell you all the things that you couldn't bring over, and is open on a Sunday. An enterprising French shop owner is going to make a killing if they can sell proper sausages, bacon and black pud, and is within easy reach of the main routes out of Calais.

I have no problem with buying locally and regularly, so this won't affect us overmuch. But please, there is a universe of difference between smuggling drugs and having a half dozen eggs in the fridge.
 
DDJC said:
Use of the word 'smuggling' is emotive and ridiculous. The EU rules are here, and are not linked to smuggling, but the need for all such products to be certified by a vet.

Comparisons between having a pack of sausages in your fridge and carrying 30 kilos of crack is just silly.

However, this is more about EU dogmatism than common sense. Much of the food we eat is processed and packed in the EU. If it is then brought back in the same sealed packaging, why not give it an exemption? UK food welfare and hygiene standards are higher then the EU anyway. Can't help feeling that this is more about the EU still being cross that we two-fingered them.

What would be helpful is a list of the shops and supermarkets in Northern France that sell you all the things that you couldn't bring over, and is open on a Sunday. An enterprising French shop owner is going to make a killing if they can sell proper sausages, bacon and black pud, and is within easy reach of the main routes out of Calais.

I have no problem with buying locally and regularly, so this won't affect us overmuch. But please, there is a universe of difference between smuggling drugs and having a half dozen eggs in the fridge.
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I’m really having tremendous fun with this thread. I didn’t start the use of smuggling as an activity. See first post.
I'm just responding to posts that I feel are as off the wall as my responses.
In other words it is a wind up.
 
If you watch the programs on the Australian customs procedures they are equally as strict with persons carrying cannabis for their own consumption or an apple. An apple containing a disease can destroy millions of dollars of Aussie Apple production,that's where they are coming from. I watched one episode where a German was fined a few hundred dollars for bringing in his home grown apples.He thought it was a silly rule but wasn't so happy when fined for not declaring his apples :eek: :love:
 
mitzimad said:
i used to hide the drugs and guns in the dog food what am i going to do now?
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Do what I do and put them in the toilet cassette.... OH NO not another toilet thread.! 🙌🏽

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busby said:
Just a slight difference in morality and consequence.BUSBY.
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Agreed its like everyone knows their rights but some do not ant the responsibilities that go along with the rights
 
Jimbohorlicks said:
If you watch the programs on the Australian customs procedures they are equally as strict with persons carrying cannabis for their own consumption or an apple. An apple containing a disease can destroy millions of dollars of Aussie Apple production,that's where they are coming from. I watched one episode where a German was fined a few hundred dollars for bringing in his home grown apples.He thought it was a silly rule but wasn't so happy when fined for not declaring his apples :eek: :love:
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Slight difference.Food of all types travels between all the countries of Europe with very little control.Until Brexit you could carry food into Europe so why is it dangerous now.BUSBY.
 
busby said:
Slight difference.Food of all types travels between all the countries of Europe with very little control.Until Brexit you could carry food into Europe so why is it dangerous now.BUSBY.
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Because due to brexit we are now a 3rd party country, we are in the same category as Iran/Pakistan and Afghanistan, they no longer have any control or influence over our food products so they assume everything carries a risk of contamination, we voted for control of our borders but that also gives them control of their borders and what goes into the EU.
 
Wh05apk said:
Because due to brexit we are now a 3rd party country, we are in the same category as Iran/Pakistan and Afghanistan, they no longer have any control or influence over our food products so they assume everything carries a risk of contamination, we voted for control of our borders but that also gives them control of their borders and what goes into the EU.
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Please inform of us all of any material differences yet applied to our food standards since January 1st.
As I said previously I am fully aware of the need for 3rd country food import regulations but as of this moment my belief is that there is no danger whatsoever from importing our food products into the EU.
I am also aware that this is illegal now.
 
busby said:
Slight difference.Food of all types travels between all the countries of Europe with very little control.Until Brexit you could carry food into Europe so why is it dangerous now.BUSBY.
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Because ,as we left the EU we became a third world country ,like many others but with less hygiene and agricultural controls than ours.
Our Bre##t leaders didn't forsee the issues of us being third world , Blinkered leadership is to blame .

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matamoros said:
Please inform of us all of any material differences yet applied to our food standards since January 1st.
As I said previously I am fully aware of the need for 3rd country food import regulations but as of this moment my belief is that there is no danger whatsoever from importing our food products into the EU.
I am also aware that this is illegal now.
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I am not aware of any changes in standards, but I'm not overly concerned, presumably we do not report every change in standards to the EU for them to approve them either? so they have no idea what we do or don't do any more, so therefore they have to assume we do not meet their standards.
 
DDJC said:
Use of the word 'smuggling' is emotive and ridiculous. The EU rules are here, and are not linked to smuggling, but the need for all such products to be certified by a vet.

Comparisons between having a pack of sausages in your fridge and carrying 30 kilos of crack is just silly.

However, this is more about EU dogmatism than common sense. Much of the food we eat is processed and packed in the EU. If it is then brought back in the same sealed packaging, why not give it an exemption? UK food welfare and hygiene standards are higher then the EU anyway. Can't help feeling that this is more about the EU still being cross that we two-fingered them.

What would be helpful is a list of the shops and supermarkets in Northern France that sell you all the things that you couldn't bring over, and is open on a Sunday. An enterprising French shop owner is going to make a killing if they can sell proper sausages, bacon and black pud, and is within easy reach of the main routes out of Calais.

I have no problem with buying locally and regularly, so this won't affect us overmuch. But please, there is a universe of difference between smuggling drugs and having a half dozen eggs in the fridge.
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And your comment about EU dogmatism is not emotive or silly? It is an EU law to protect its market, so any attempt to defeat or circumvent it is to commit an illegal act.

Steve
 
Northernraider said:
Personally im carrying on as normal
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I always do?
marchie said:
Guns, drugs, dairy products are all prohibited.
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I've no idea about road travel but would have thought there would be something similar to air travel ,whereby it is perfectly legal to transport guns & ammunition as long as they are packed seperately.
AENA , the spanish air travel authority , produce leafelets on all & sundry available at any airports & one of them specifies how to transport guns & ammunition,legally,when travelling with them.
Just for info one has to be in the hand luggage & the other in checked in baggage. either can be in either of them.
I only threw a leaflet away a few weeks ago.

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Richard n Ann said:
Forget regulatory conformation /food standards etc... This is tiny amounts for personal consumption, that's why it's ignored, and rightly so 👍
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That’s the spirit!
drive without road tax and insurance and tell the judge it’s only a tiny bit out of date and he should ignore it and rightly so.
 
One thing I would not take to France, is the crap sausage we have here. Theirs are much nicer, the French wouldn’t eat ours.:ROFLMAO:

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DelMar said:
One thing I would not take to France, is the crap sausage we have here. Theirs are much nicer, the French wouldn’t eat ours.:ROFLMAO:
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They sell donkey meat sausage in France.I dare anyone to taste it...BUSBY.
 
Jus come back last week, they didn't bother at all with me checked passport and covid docs and waved me on. I wouldn't worry if I were you. hope you enjoy your hols and good luck
 
marchie said:
And your comment about EU dogmatism is not emotive or silly? It is an EU law to protect its market, so any attempt to defeat or circumvent it is to commit an illegal act.

Steve
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Illegal, yes.
Smuggling? Not in my book. Smuggling is done for profit, not for personal consumption. 'Smuggling' suggests images of 18c brandy smuggling, or modern day narcotics, or even people smuggling. Hardly a packet of Lincolnshire sausages for tomorrows breakfast.

Anyway, the law isn't to protect the EU market. The underpinning laws that these rules apply to are part of the EU policy to ensure animal welfare and to prevent animal body part crime, e.g. rhino horns, ivory, etc.

However, not sure about north of the Tweed, but I haven't seen any rhinos down here in England. And the UK animal welfare standards are higher than that demanded by the EU. And those animal welfare standards were perfectly acceptable to the EU before we left. And the UK standards are unchanged.

But you are right, dogmatism isn't the right word, because the UK government has never spent any effort in trying to get an exemption for UK based on reciprocal parity. And they shouldn't. There are far more important areas of reciprocity, equivalence and harmonisation that they should be dealing with first as we consolidate our position as being the best place for global investment by being in Europe, but not the EU.

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