Fogstar 280amp lithium battery

[Red Dragon]

I have a Hymer Exsis 414 and wish to put a lithium Fogstar 280amp in,would this be ok for the Electroblock with the appropiate battery cable sizing.

 

[Bill-H]

Which model of Electroblock do you have and does it have a lithium setting?

 

[Red Dragon]

Hi Bill it does’nt have a lithium setting as I will remove the 20amp fuse and charge using a stand-a-lone lithium charger thanks.
Steve.

 

[tonka]

I have the EBL 220 and have done the same. removed the fuse.. I did contact Schaudt and they said was ok to charge Lithium with the EBL if you put it on gel setting. Something i will do only if i need to.. So far i have relied on solar after fitting 2 new 170w panels that seem to be working quite well.

You may want to consider adding a B2B, seem's some debate about how the alternator will respond when the lithium tries to suck the life out of it..

 

[Red Dragon]

Hi Tonka thanks for the reply,I have a work around for no B2B, my only concern was the size of the amperage on the Fogstar 280amp through the Electroblock.
Steve

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[Gaston aires]

I have the 230 AH Fogstar lithium. I use the electroblock set to gel (as recommended by Fogstar). Charges it perfectly. You can phone Ben at Fogstar for advice. 01218281387.
Phil

 

[Lenny HB]

Hi Tonka thanks for the reply,I have a work around for no B2B, my only concern was the size of the amperage on the Fogstar 280amp through the Electroblock.
Steve

Not worth the risk of running a Lithium without a B2B especially a large one.

Not sure what you mean by amperage through the EBL.

 

[Lenny HB]

I have the 230 AH Fogstar lithium. I use the electroblock set to gel (as recommended by Fogstar). Charges it perfectly. You can phone Ben at Fogstar for advice. 01218281387.
Phil

Again not worth the risk, the Gel setting on the EBL has an absorption time of 16 hours. Lithium don't really need an absorption but an hour is about the norm. Also the EBL charges at 14.4v which is a bit too high, so holding it at 14.4v for 16 hours is crazy.
Why buy an expensive Lithium battery then don't treat it properly, makes no sense to me.

 

[stevewagner]

You could spend hundreds of pounds and possibly thousands, fitting the ‘correct’ chargers and monitors with lithium profiles etc. (which many do). However many suppliers advertise that their lithium batteries are drop-in replacements with no further additions required. Maybe just dropping a lithium in isn’t perfect but it will still work well albeit without a perfect charging profile etc. Therefore is it worth spending a small fortune on the perfect Victron setup to make your lithium 100% perfect or not bothering and reducing your lithium battery performance and lifespan by a small percentage and saving a lot of money?
I have 3 x 100 amp lithiums which I imported a couple of years ago and 1 x 110 amp lithium which I bought for half price following a raffle on here. Mains charger is turned off. I have a 70 amp Sterling dc to dc charger, 220 watts of PV, Sterling battery master and a Renogy 2000 watt inverter. It has been faultless and I’ve never run out of power yet using the van all year round.

 

[Lenny HB]

However many suppliers advertise that their lithium batteries are drop-in replacements with no further additions required. Maybe just dropping a lithium in isn’t perfect but it will still work well albeit without a perfect charging profile etc

IMO "Drop in replacement" is marketing BS.
Even you have your mains charger turned off, and fitting Lithium without a B2B makes no sense at all and a big risk to your alternator.
Surely the point of fitting Lithium is the high capacity and discharge rate plus the ability to fast charge them.

Not much point in fitting they if you are not going to make use of their advantages.

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[DuncT]

I've just made this exact'ish change.
Fitted a 285ah lithium battery alongside my existing EBL. I pulled the 20a mains charger fuse in the EBL and fitted a 30a victron ip22 charger along with wiring a 50a victron orion b2b directly between the batteries (pulled the 50a fuse at the starter battery). Also added a victron mppt controller.

All is now working well (with help from some of you guys).

Any questions, just ask

 

[Red Dragon]

Not worth the risk of running a Lithium without a B2B especially a large one.
.
Not sure what you mean by amperage through the EBL.

Hi Lenny thanks that was me typing rubbish to, early in the morning.

 

[RowleyBirkinQC]

Hi Bill it does’nt have a lithium setting as I will remove the 20amp fuse and charge using a stand-a-lone lithium charger thanks.
Steve.

We have the same battery and use a Victron IP22 mains charger and Sterling B2B. The EBL is now a 12v distribution box.