Fiat Ducato 2007 Scuttle Issues

DK1083

DK1083

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Hi all and thank you for the add.
I recently had a new windscreen fitted to my 2007 Autotrail Tracker motorhome. After collection I noticed that the joint at the bottom of the windscreen, (dead centre), wasn't sealed. I asked the fitter about it and he said, on this model they weren't designed to be sealed to allow rainwater to drain to the scuttle. I asked if I should seal it and he said I shouldn't.
Any views on here?



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DK1083 said:
Hi all and thank you for the add.
I recently had a new windscreen fitted to my 2007 Autotrail Tracker motorhome. After collection I noticed that the joint at the bottom of the windscreen, (dead centre), wasn't sealed. I asked the fitter about it and he said, on this model they weren't designed to be sealed to allow rainwater to drain to the scuttle. I asked if I should seal it and he said I shouldn't.
Any views on here?



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Hi I have just checked my tracker, all be its on a 22 plate and my mine is a completely one piece, I have read on the forum that they are prone to leaking, so I would suggest you contact customer care at Autotrail to confirm, what you see as a problem.contact no for Autotrail 01472571000
 
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It definitely wants sealing, in 2007 it was a manufacturers recall but only on request, together with a plastic cover over the injectors.

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plug said:
Hi I have just checked my tracker, all be its on a 22 plate and my mine is a completely one piece, I have read on the forum that they are prone to leaking, so I would suggest you contact customer care at Autotrail to confirm, what you see as a problem.contact no for Autotrail 01472571000
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The later scuttle is a one piece design, it’s not motorhome converter specific
 
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antprice1970 said:
I purchased one of these from the seller and it works great, no more water on engine bay. Must admit the design on the ducatos from that time was poor but this water deflector works a treat 👍
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The seller is our very own Funster PaulandChrissy
 
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Poor design. I had a 2012 Knaus which dripped water which froze and resulted in cam belt and rockers damaging engine. Fortunately my Fiat dealer negotiated with Fiat and they paid.
 
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DAC and Jan said:
I have fitted this, simple’s 👍
You might to look at the other drainage set they have available, excellent fitting instructions 🤔
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I purchased the one with the tray to collect water then a hose takes it away down rear of engine. So easy to fit and great idea, no more water dripping onto to of engine 😊

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We are sat in the Aire at Algodonales Andalusia, after having taken the scary road (for my wife)
many hairpins and narrow turns, all down hill,
wish it had been in my old rally car🤭👍
Down from Grazelema, if not for the heavy rain, wind and clouds it would have been incredible
views! ( not for the wife I think though?🥴🤭)
Worth the effort but not advised in more than 6 mtr🤔 ( we are 7.00 and a bit tight in places🤭)👍. Many motorhomes here but no Brits, all on the coast I suppose.🙄😊
 
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DAC and Jan said:
We are sat in the Aire at Algodonales Andalusia, after having taken the scary road (for my wife)
many hairpins and narrow turns, all down hill,
wish it had been in my old rally car🤭👍
Down from Grazelema, if not for the heavy rain, wind and clouds it would have been incredible
views! ( not for the wife I think though?🥴🤭)
Worth the effort but not advised in more than 6 mtr🤔 ( we are 7.00 and a bit tight in places🤭)👍. Many motorhomes here but no Brits, all on the coast I suppose.🙄😊
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Have you posted this in the right thread?
 
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Mikeco said:
It definitely wants sealing, in 2007 it was a manufacturers recall but only on request, together with a plastic cover over the injectors.
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you are right ,the last thing you want is water around injectors , it's a pricey old job if you want your injectors replaced and they are found to be rusted in situ
 
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DK1083 said:
Hi all and thank you for the add.
I recently had a new windscreen fitted to my 2007 Autotrail Tracker motorhome. After collection I noticed that the joint at the bottom of the windscreen, (dead centre), wasn't sealed. I asked the fitter about it and he said, on this model they weren't designed to be sealed to allow rainwater to drain to the scuttle. I asked if I should seal it and he said I shouldn't.
Any views on here?



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I had a new screen to our 2017 Ducato, the fitter said they did not seal it as the scuttle panel had a sealing strip on it to stop the water. Well yes it had a strip along it, but it was useless, and water dripped all over the engine causing rust to develop around the injectors, electronics etc.
I removed the scuttle panel and its rather mangy foam strip and put a bead of sealant along the top of the panel and replaced it.
The sealed panel then diverted the rain down the drain holes and away to the road, instead of the rain running down onto the engine and electronics.
PS while you have the panel off clean out the drain pipes down from the panel as they often fill with debris.

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minesapint said:
I had a new screen to our 2017 Ducato, the fitter said they did not seal it as the scuttle panel had a sealing strip on it to stop the water. Well yes it had a strip along it, but it was useless, and water dripped all over the engine causing rust to develop around the injectors, electronics etc.
I removed the scuttle panel and its rather mangy foam strip and put a bead of sealant along the top of the panel and replaced it.
The sealed panel then diverted the rain down the drain holes and away to the road, instead of the rain running down onto the engine and electronics.
PS while you have the panel off clean out the drain pipes down from the panel as they often fill with debris.
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I need to use a short length of bamboo to unblock the scuttle drain pipes from time to time.
 
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minesapint said:
I had a new screen to our 2017 Ducato, the fitter said they did not seal it as the scuttle panel had a sealing strip on it to stop the water. Well yes it had a strip along it, but it was useless, and water dripped all over the engine causing rust to develop around the injectors, electronics etc.
I removed the scuttle panel and its rather mangy foam strip and put a bead of sealant along the top of the panel and replaced it.
The sealed panel then diverted the rain down the drain holes and away to the road, instead of the rain running down onto the engine and electronics.
PS while you have the panel off clean out the drain pipes down from the panel as they often fill with debris.
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The easy fix for this from the Ducato forum is a strip of insulation tape applied over the joint of windscreen and scuttle inch to 3 cm wide is best but hard to get hold of. Change the tape yearly, when in place it's not noticeable.
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DK1083 said:
I've searched the web, (and eBay) for this scuttle deflector and also for "paulandchrissybabe" on eBay without success. Any suggestions as to how I can contact them or where I might obtain the deflector?
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Join up. It’s well worthwhile. Tons of help on everything Motorhome. You can then send me a Private Message and I can make you a deflector. We are away in Spain until the 10th March but I can make a note to get back to you when we get back.
You can contact me on chrisatheathpark@yahoo.com, but hope you will subscribe.
PaulandChrissy
 
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andyt21 said:
Poor design. I had a 2012 Knaus which dripped water which froze and resulted in cam belt and rockers damaging engine. Fortunately my Fiat dealer negotiated with Fiat and they paid.
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I remember reading about this problem with the scuttles as they called them years ago on the Motorhome facts forum ,it g ot dubbed scuttlegate. This problem along with the juddering dual mass flywheel got called juddergate, was one of the reasons I went for a Renault Master chassis.
I now have a 21 boxer chassis and was not aware of this water drain problem until I read the thread. I went and checked and sure enough the drain was blocked with leaves, it is now clear and I am so grateful to you all for making us aware as I thought by now it would not be a problem. Many thanks.
 
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