Damp in a 1 year old Globecar PVC

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Took my Globecar van to the dealer at the end of September for its first Hab-check and some warranty work. On emptying the garage before leaving I was shocked to see a stain in the little cubby storage hole at the rear, where I keep a mobility scooter cover (unused) a National Trust blanket, warning triangle and some adapters in boxes. Mentioned it to the girl when dropping it off, as I had not previously raised it as an issue when booking.

A month later I still do not have the van back! I've missed a half term holiday trip, and so I'm getting really fed up with them and losing the will to live. This afternoon on my third chasing call today I finally got to speak to someone in the 'know' - and it was reported that the service found 47% damp in the offside rear cubby hole (funny that last week however I was told by an officious, condescending man in service dept, it was all good, 15% no damp!!I am a woman so what do I know!).

The guy today however said they were concerned it was the water filler (in the same area) but took it back to workshop to check out the filler system and found no issues which is why its taken so long. I was told it must have come from inside, aka 'your fault' - even though I carry no fluids in the garage. I asked when they did the test - 11th October was the answer - so it had been sitting around completely empty (and don't I know it - all the van stuff is filling up my kitchen!) for 2 weeks before they even tested for damp so surely any superficial dampness caused by a hypothetical spillage would have easily dried out by then? I asked him what the reading was now, a month later? doesn't know...so told him to find out - surely that wont take another 2 weeks! 10 mins tops.

Anyone know if water could find its way from the roof down to the cubby hole? does that sound feasible? We have had a lot of rain. I expected it to be from filler cap which is directly above the cubby, but they insist it is fine. I never run with more than 25% water in the tank as my payload is a bit tight to the max (with e-bike, scooter, paraphernalia etc) - and I have heard of instances when filled to brim it can overspill when driving.

So I'm baffled with the issue and annoyed and disappointed with the dealer. Not to mention the radio battle I'm having with them right now too - when I bought the van I asked them to put a radio in with phone capability.. the first radio installed did not do phones, so they swapped it for a JVC, then the steering controls didn't work, so they had it back again to sort that - then when I was away in France taking literally hundreds of calls with my mum in hospital, I discovered the right hand side call pickup/drop buttons did not work. That's my fault also, because its a non-standard radio and it needs reconfiguring to make work.... What??? I have referred him to the sales contract which specified a phone capable radio and asked him to sort out his internal issues as to whether they can do it with this radio and if they cant they need to change it. Am I unreasonable to expect a radio to be connected to the steering wheel controls so that I don't need to pick up the phone to answer/end the call - I can hear and speak over the radio/with mic, but surely they should install it so that I can easily answer/end a call without breaking the law!

Sorry rant over, I'm at the end of my tether with them. I always thought them to be very helpful so far - but it appears once you get to the anniversary of your van you are moved off the new customer/bend-over-backward-list to the 'also-rans/pleb' list.

So very disappointed :-(
 
We have a Globecar (but a Summit) so not quite sure where your cubbyhole is. Did you have the rear doors open in the rain? Could water have got in that way? If the seal on the back doors isnt "good" could a leak there have got to your cubby hole? Only guessing, I'm afraid.
 
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We have a Globecar (but a Summit) so not quite sure where your cubbyhole is. Did you have the rear doors open in the rain? Could water have got in that way? If the seal on the back doors isnt "good" could a leak there have got to your cubby hole? Only guessing, I'm afraid.
On offside at the rear next to the water tank, underneath the filler. That to me has to be the obvious source. Haven't used the van since I got back from France in June unfortunately so not left them open... Don't tend to tbh with it being the bed... Not like a rear lounge layout with people taking pictures of barn door view 😉. I did wonder if it could be a roof/door seal as I know water travels it's way into unexpected places and there's been a lot of rain. So frustrating.
 
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It sounds like you have all bases covered with your suspicions 👍 I have no idea why your dealer does not simply stick someone inside your van while spraying a hose on the outside to test door seals then filling water tank to brim. Probably less than 15 mins to eliminate both. After that roof lights need checking again 5min job.I think they are taking the p—s having your van all that time.
 
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I did wonder if it could be a roof/door seal as I know water travels it's way into unexpected places and there's been a lot of rain. So frustrating.
Sorry to hear about your dealer woes - really frustrating and annoying. :(

We have a Rapido van conversion and have experienced unexpected water ingress on a couple of occasions. However, our van is over 7 years old now, although we've owned it from new.

The first was an absolute puzzle, because the water tracked above the ceiling so far before it emerged in the van - the seal had broken down on the rear roof-light, but the dripping in the van was more than 6 feet away!

The second time we noticed damp bedding where it touches the rear barn doors. After much investigation we discovered - and I know it sounds bizarre - the need to slam the door rather more forcefully, which sorted the problem. :giggle:

Hope you can get your issues fixed without too much more grief. And no, I don't think you're being unreasonable.

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I too have had water coming in from the back doors, couldn’t quite figure out how or why but cleaning the seals and putting a little bit of sealant off the rain gutter diverting the water away from the back door so it runs down the pillar instead seems to have solved the problem….

You have every right to keep on at your dealer, don’t let them get away with it…I think some dealers must like being moaned at and getting grief from customers by the amount of people that have trouble with them on here… I’d start talking about recompense to your dealer seeing as they’ve had your van for so long….🤬
 
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In an earlier PVC we had some years ago we had a damp rag smell affecting the bedding in the overcab locker. The source I found was the rear roof-light same as mikebeaches found where the seal had failed. Resealed and dried out after a few weeks.
 
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On offside at the rear next to the water tank, underneath the filler. That to me has to be the obvious source. Haven't used the van since I got back from France in June unfortunately so not left them open... Don't tend to tbh with it being the bed... Not like a rear lounge layout with people taking pictures of barn door view 😉. I did wonder if it could be a roof/door seal as I know water travels it's way into unexpected places and there's been a lot of rain. So frustrating.
Hi I have read all the threads my money is condensation from the outside of the tank
 
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I am with Peter on this it may be condensation from the scooter cover and blanket if it near the tank that is causing the damp but why it is taking so long to find it is another issue!

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As an example of condensation I often explain do you remember the glass sunroofs in escorts and many other cars in the mornings they are dripping wet the car appears dry no leaks
It’s just a cold surface with warm air touching
If it is this it is just another example of lack of knowledge from dealers
 
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As an example of condensation I often explain do you remember the glass sunroofs in escorts and many other cars in the mornings they are dripping wet the car appears dry no leaks
It’s just a cold surface with warm air touching
If it is this it is just another example of lack of knowledge from dealers
So why not simply insulate the bare metal. Find it hard to believe Globecar would not have installed insulation—- — but then again nothing would surprise me, you could be right 😳😁 Easy to check and fix 😉
 
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So why not simply insulate the bare metal. Find it hard to believe Globecar would not have installed insulation—- — but then again nothing would surprise me, you could be right 😳😁 Easy to check and fix 😉
I don’t find it hard to believe, they are made as quickly as possible, mass production vans.
 
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I am with Peter on this it may be condensation from the scooter cover and blanket if it near the tank that is causing the damp but why it is taking so long to find it is another issue!
No I'm not sure, they were not in contact with the tank, the cubby hole is fully enclosed, you can't see the tank from the little storage space. I'm pretty sure condensation would dry out in a couple of weeks wouldn't it?
 
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On our PVC, the fitter had not replaced and sealed the Fiat rubber surround at the very bottom of left hand barn door. This led to rain water ingress at floor level which went unnoticed for a while as it tracked through between the cab floor and the habitation floor eventually revealing itself at the cab step end.
IH replaced the floor even though out of warranty.

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I often get the feeling that dealers mess owners about and create long delays in order to discourage them from going back again.
You're right. I definitely won't be going back once the warranty has expired... Had already decided that before this happened. The hab
Check I felt was rather expensive for what it is at £285, more expensive than a caravan service and they're not even checking running gear. Hopefully by the end of warranty all new van niggles will have settled. Makes you wonder if any dealers have good aftersales....although I suppose they are if you're the one paying!!
 
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If the damp is near the water filler you may have a problem that has been seen on other PVCs with an open vent
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On offside at the rear next to the water tank, underneath the filler. That to me has to be the obvious source. Haven't used the van since I got back from France in June unfortunately so not left them open... Don't tend to tbh with it being the bed... Not like a rear lounge layout with people taking pictures of barn door view 😉. I did wonder if it could be a roof/door seal as I know water travels it's way into unexpected places and there's been a lot of rain. So frustrating.
Can I suggest another source, bearing in mind, I do not know the layout of your van, but we had a Rapido that had water ingress in the garage corner, Wokingham Rapido dealers, where it was having it Service, found it, and it apparently came from underneath. They had it over Christmas. As we didn’t need it and had to keep it until it dried out and it was sorted under warranty.

Best of luck,

Carol.

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Do you run with nearly full water tank?
Worth cheeking the two lids on the tank have their seals and are tight closed. Also worth checking the coactions from the filler point.
Its real poor that the dealer is peeing you about.
 
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Do you run with nearly full water tank?
Worth cheeking the two lids on the tank have their seals and are tight closed. Also worth checking the coactions from the filler point.
Its real poor that the dealer is peeing you about.
No only 25%usually because I carry a lot of gear so cautious of reaching paylaod. Apparently dealer checked the filler connections and couldnt find a problem. Yes I am getting very frustrated with them.... They didn't move the van or even start ignition until day before I was originally supposed to pick it up so I knew they were messing me about from outset. I. Not impressed this time. All other times they've actually picked it up and delivered
 
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