Clutch slip & oil useage ?

[Figaro]

2003 2.8 JTD 84k miles - I was a little surprised to see the oil level as shown on the dash to be two notches down from full this week. It doesn't normally use much oil, no drips and was checked on dipstick not that many miles ago.
Anyway, forth gear and a bit of an incline needing full throttle see the clutch slipping for a relatively short time and didn't do it again.
At 84k it's probably not surprising if it needs a new clutch but I just wondered if there could be a conceivable connection with the drop in engine oil level ?
Looks like it's a clutch replacement in the new year.
Anyone know how many hours labour for an independent garage ?

 

[Lenny HB]

Possibility of the crankshaft seal leaking onto the clutch.

 

[Two on Tour]

Might be worth having a look to see if you have any mobile clutch fitters in your area.

 

[Lofty1]

It is possible you may have a rear engine oil seal gone. Worth haveing it checked when the clutch is replaced.

 

[donkey]

Excessive oil consumption can often be attributed to a malfunction of the engine crankcase breather system. Worth taking a few pipes off to see what state they are in. Could also be a kinked or squashed breather hose.
Is there a drain hole at the bottom of the bell housing, if so oil from a leaking rear main oil seal should be evident there.
Have you actually checked the oil level using the dipstick, they are more reliable than electronic indicators.

Geoff

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[pappajohn]

If it lost that much oil via a failed rear crank seal it's doubtful you would even get moving due to clutch slip.
Our Peugeot work vans had the dash oil level gismo and was largly ignored.
Dipping the oil showed no loss.
There will never be a reliable substitute for a dipstick

 

[Figaro]

It is possible you may have a rear engine oil seal gone. Worth haveing it checked when the clutch is replaced.

Whilst in France recently I was decending a very steep hill on a narrow road and met a council type truck coming up the other way.
I had to reverse up the hill to where I'd passed an opening where we could pass.
The engine and gearbox did a lot of complaining on that reverse, judder and vibration, but I had little choice.
All seemed ok afterwards, but I fear it finished off a clutch coming to it's end anyway.
So I'll get it replaced in the new year.
Thanks all

 

[cyberyacht]

I think I've read that Ducatos are a bit grumpy at being expected to reverse up hills.

 

[Figaro]

I think I've read that Ducatos are a bit grumpy at being expected to reverse up hills.

Yes, my engine pre-dates the Ducato "juddergate" saga, but it definately didn't like that reverse up hill that day. I was quite suprised as it had never done it before, but that day it did a lot of complaining.
Whether that damaged it I don't know but it's done 84k miles so probably overdue a new clutch

 

[TerryL]

Put all the ideas together - oil on the clutch plate will likely make it judder in reverse.

They don't repair themselves, if it's slipped once without any apparent other reason (foot on the pedal?) it'll do it again. Bite the bullet and get a new clutch, check the seals whilst it's being changed.

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